can you use this brass

[bhop]

I have access to A LOT of this brass from what I could tell most is dented pretty good I took the pics with my cell (no flash) because it was all I had. I'll take better ones Monday if there is people wanting some. I haven't started swaging yet but if you guys can use it I will pick it up. the recycler is closing and it'll be gone soon . what can you use? what can't you use? What would you pay for it if you can use it?
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g390/Bhop84/brass3_zpsb5356d0e.jpg

[BLASTER62]

What cal brass is it?

[bhop]

Alot of different calibers 223 308 + lots of different handgun calibers and several. boxes or http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g390/Bhop84/brass1_zps047c43de.jpg b 30 caliber blanks

[bhop]

<a href=http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g390/Bhop84/?action=view&current=brass2_zpsae5d3c5b.jpg target=_blank><img src=http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g390/Bhop84/brass2_zpsae5d3c5b.jpg border=0 alt=></a> not good at picture postong

[Crytes]

I'm still processing mine but I'm using dented 223 to make blackout cases since they seem to dent at the mouth mostly I've hade only a cupple of rejections for the dents out of 1000 cases. just another way to make blackout even cheaper to reload

[GRUMPA]

Crytes, I get the dented 223 cases all the time. I use a tapered center punch that pretty much pops them back out resulting in MAYBE 2 bad pieces out of 5K that I process. I just went through 8 gallons of scrap brass and I was lucky if I had more than 1K scrap 223 cases after 2 years of making 300BLK brass, not bad in my mind.

bhop, that brass does have some use left in them and after looking at the photo you have they would be great for my 22TCM line I just got up and running. And that's why I just went through 8 gallons of scrap brass, so I can convert those over. The brass your taking pictures of do have limits, nobody is going to want to separate them by head stamp and in my case foreign garbage goes right in the garbage can.

Just because there may be oodles of those cases I would have to have them in my hands and go through them 1 by 1 and see what the results told me.

Here's the thread on 22TCM cases: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?209336-22TCM-Now-Ready

[bhop]

Thank you for the info. What is the going rate for brass like that? Does it make a difference if its military or not?

[bhop]

im going back up there today, i know there is a bag of 22lr and 22mag that im going to pick up to put on here, but im not sure what kind of price i can get on here for the other brass to know how much i can pay for it. there is probably well over 20,000 pieces of brass there i would just hate to see it melted if it can be used in our hobby. give me some ideas on prices. he sells in pounds but i can weigh 1000 to do the conversion to pieces.

[GRUMPA]

You have to keep in mind a whole bunch of things when it comes to center fire cases. Not knowing the point of origin is a big handicap and a close eye for details is required, not always fool proof by any means but it's a start.

ALL (recently)the brass I get is from a trusted source, so there's just a lot of things I don't need to deal with.

In this case it would take some time to evaluate the brass from a multitude of different ways. What color is the primer? If they're silver in color (depending on head stamp) that's a clue that it's been reloaded, how many times is often a mystery.

HEAD STAMPS: Very important except if used for swaging. No matter how you look at it so far you can be taken for a ride if your not careful with a rather educated guess. Yes I have been taken more than a few times but I've learned my lesson, seems to sink in better if I get bit and bit hard.

Then you have to make sure if it's military brass they haven't been run through a popper which anneals the entire case. Don't forget it's at the scrap yard for a reason.

Anything that's not a well known head stamp would be avoided at all costs if you plan on converting them into anything else. For reloading 223 brass most will be OK but not all of them since there's some of them out there that were made for specific reasons, like KFA brass, very thick walls.

Unless your taking someone with you or you know what to look for I would just let them go and get melted down, there's just so many things to be watchful of it would take me a good 1/2hr trying to describe it in hopes others would completely understand what I'm trying to say.

If you think you want to get them or some I would find out what it is they're paying for it and offer no more than 20% more. For 223 cases average number of pieces per pound is 72, so if you get let's say 10Lbs of it you would get just about 720pcs.

Around here they pay $1.50LB and the coastal cities around $2Lb from what I've seen and heard.

All I have to say is be cautious when buying brass from a scrap yard and always remember it's there for a reason.

[bhop]

ok thank you grumpa, i kinda figured that noone would want them to reload, i wouldnt simply because i dont know enough about reloading rifle rounds. i thought maybe the guys that use them for jackets on their boolits could possibly get some use out of them.

Now what about the .22lr and .22mag? i know its been once fired lol. they use those for jackets on .223 right? or the .30 caliber blanks that are in their original boxes (they have been fired). if nobody can use them its no sweat for me i was going to only add a little on top of my cost and shipping so i am not working for free, i wanted to try to give back to the castboolit community seeing how much you all have helped me learn.

[MUSTANG]

I have reloaded quite a few Dented military 5.56 & 7.62 cases over the years. Extreme flattened cases are automatically rejects. When run through a sizer, there is apt to be a dent left. At times a dent will crack when run through the sizer, automatic reject at that point. Full charge loads will iron out the dents. Cast boolit mid-range loads may iron out the case, but light loads (slow FPS) may not generate sufficient pressure to iron out a dented case. The condition of brass in the picture in Post #3 applies to these conditions.

I have cut down the neck length of quite a few .30 cal blanks (7.62 x 51 machine gun blanks), no bad effects experienced in the cases and their use, although the neck for some may be slightly thicker than most military brass cases.

I have also years ago taken expended 5.56 blanks, opened the mouth with an awl (they usually have a small hole at the mouth as the powder charge does not fully open the mouth when fired), and then run them through a sizer. At that point, the neck is trimmed to spec for over all case length. A lot of work that is not required if there is good access to normal 5.56 brass cases.

There is some level of demand for 22LR to make .224 by the swaging community. Bulk into Small or Medium flat rate boxes and advertise on the Swap and Sell section.

As for 22Magnum; I use them for swaging heavier .224 (80 to 100 grain). Those who swage for .243 would also be interested in 22Mag as they use them as feeder stock for their .243 jackets. Box in small or medium flat rate box and list on Swap and Sell section.

You might consider listing the dented brass on the Swap and Sell section, just provide a good quality pic of the material, and list at a lesser price than Brass cases goes for and you may get a bite or two. Open and honest disclosure of the condition of the brass to avoid misunderstanding.


Mustang

[bhop]

Mustang- Thank you for the information that was exactly what i was needing to know. i have a gallon sized ziplock of .22lr and .22 mag brass already, looks like i need to do some sorting