Heavies in .30-30

[Echd]

I acquired a Lee 309-230-5R mold from a member here and can't wait to get cracking with it. I've found data for 7.62x39 and 30-06, but am most interested in this boolit from a single shot contender (14" barrel).

has anyone tried this or a similarly heavy bullet in the 30-30? Making some rough guesses and using a calculator, it should stabilize at lower velocities fine (1-12 twist).

[Lonegun1894]

IIRC, I have read that some .30-30 Contender barrels were 1:14", while some newer ones are 1:10" ROT, so depending on which of the two you have, I figure you have a 50/50 chance that it will work well. I have been thinking of picking up a H&R in .30-30 for this same exact purpose. I don't have the 230gr mold yet though, so you're ahead of me. I would say start low to make sure you stay safe, and just load a few and see if it stabilizes. Worst case scenario, you find out that it doesn't work the way you hoped it would, and it costs you a few primers and a bit of powder.

[Char-Gar]

Try it and see. Then you will know. Report back with your findings and we will all know a little more.

[frnkeore]

A 14 twist will stabilize a 3 caliber, 1.2 long spitzer at 1400 fps. I'm sure your 230 gr, 5 caliber is longer and you may not be able to stabilize it. But, a 12 twist may do it.

How long is that 230 gr bullet?

Frank

[Green Lizzard]

206 gr down sized 303 boolit does ok in my tc carbine, kicks right smart though

[Echd]

It casts a right gorgeous pill, although I have yet to shoot any. I can't get any unique at the moment, so perhaps someone else may have guidance on a good start load, preferably with a pistol powder? I have 2400, Red Dot, Bullseye, 4756, and a ton of other stuff. Not really comfortable working outside the ranges of normal bullets, which is why I was desperately checking gun store shelves for unique on the way home earlier! Always had good luck with light charges of that in rifle cartridges. I'm not looking for a hunting load here, just paper.

Weight as cast (straight COWW + a tiny bit of monotype for fillout) is 231.1 averaged between 30 boolits.

Length of boolit is 1.36".

http://i.imgur.com/EZhghiY.jpg

[frnkeore]

It should just stabilize in a 12 twist at 1400 fps. 10 or 11 would be a sure thing.

Frank

[Dan Cash]

I think 2400 would be a much better choice for that set up; Unique could get really hot really quick. If I were to try this in my rifle, My start would be 8 gr 2400 and would probably find happiness at about 10 grains.

[Lonegun1894]

I think powder load and choice depends on desired performance. If I was going for subsonic, I would start with 4.0grs Unique. But wouldn't be surprised if this didn't stabilize. If going for top performance, I think Dan's recommendation of 2400 is perfect for this. Fast enough to work, slow enough to keep pressures down.

[CPL Lou]

Maybe try LeveRevoltuion powder. It's supposed to be just the ticket with heavy bullets in the 30-30 Win. :wink:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?115657-LeveRevoltuion-Powder

CPL Lou