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Bad Water Bill
10-20-2013, 05:59 PM
ANTI-GUNNERS BEGIN CAMPAIGN TO DISMANTLE CONCEALED CARRY



The Illinois General Assembly returns to session Monday, October 21st, and the anti-gunners are wasting no time in attempting to dismantle the concealed carry bill passed last spring. Your help is desperately needed to shut down the gun control movement’s efforts to strip you of your fundamental right to defend yourself and your family from muggers, murderers, robbers and rapists.

We also need your help to support 3 pro-concealed carry bills that have been introduced. The details on all the bills are below:

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION CAREFULLY AND TAKE THE ACTIONS LISTED TO HELP SAVE YOUR RIGHTS

HB3646 – DANGEROUS BILL – Bans Concealed Carry in any restaurant that has alcoholic beverages on the menu. Drastically reduces your choices on when and how to protect yourself. This bill is a foot in the door to create a growing list of places where you will be prohibited from protecting yourself and your family from dangerous criminals.

HB3669 – DANGEROUS BILL - This bill eliminates “safe haven” provisions for areas near schools – meaning that you could not even have a firearm locked in your trunk if you drive on to ANY property controlled by a school district. Once again, this bill would severely limit your self defense options and would make you a felon for doing nothing more than possessing a firearm. Under this bill, you would have to leave your defensive firearms at home if your plans called for you to enter any lands controlled by a school district. The real purpose of this bill is to pave the way for sweeping prohibitions on concealed carry that would make self defense impractical and a serious legal risk for most Illinois citizens.

HB3675 – DANGEROUS BILL – This bill would severely increase penalties for persons found to be carrying firearms in restricted areas. This bill is designed solely to scare law-abiding citizens out of carrying defensive firearms. This bill in no way targets gang-bangers or other violent criminals.

SB2594 – DANGEROUS BILL – This is another bill that would prohibit carry in restaurants that have alcoholic beverages on the menu.

HB3651 – GOOD BILL – This bill lowers the burdensome 16-hour training rule to a more reasonable 8-hour requirement. This bill also eliminates the re-training requirements for carry permit renewals. In short, this bill undoes that anti-gunners’ attempts to discourage people from applying for carry permits by easing burdensome training requirements.

HB3650 – GOOD BILL – This bill provides for concealed carry reciprocity between Illinois and dozens of other states.

HB3649 – GOOD BILL – This bill reduces the exorbitant fees the State Police plan on charging people for permit applications. The state should not be allowed to price-gouge citizens who want to defend themselves. This bill would make fees more reasonable and thus allow greater access to self defense for Illinois citizens.

HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE:

1. Call your State Representative and politely tell him/her that you are a law-abiding firearm owner and you do not want your right to self defense diminished for political reasons. Ask him/her to vote AGAINST HB3646; HB3669; HB3675.

2. While on the phone with your Representative, tell him/her that you would like them to vote FOR HB3649; HB3650 and HB3651.

3. Call your State Senator and politely tell him/her that you are a law-abiding firearm owner and that you do not want your right to self defense diminished for political reasons. Ask him/her to vote AGAINST SB2594.

4. Post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards or blogs to which you belong.

5. Pass this alert along to all your gun owning friends and family members – ask them to take action as well.

6. Please consider a generous donation to the ISRA so that we can continue to fight against those who would take your gun rights away from you.

If you do not know who your State Representative or State Senator is, the Illinois State Board of Elections has an interactive search page here:
www.elections.state.il.us/DistrictLocator/DistrictOfficialSearchByAddress.aspx

If you already know who your State Representative and State Senator are and just need the contact info, you can find that here: www.ilga.gov/house & www.ilga.gov/senate .

jmort
10-20-2013, 06:20 PM
Good to see you fighting the good fight.

MtGun44
10-20-2013, 06:40 PM
Once you actually get people on the street carrying, the antigunners typically give up because
NONE of their fantasies about "blood running in the streets" come true, so they lose a huge amount
of credibility and support.

Until you actually have significant numbers of issued permits, my guess is that their hysterical
fables will still carry a bit of weight. Keep fighting them. If you ever get a chance to apply
rational thinking (HA!) you might ask "If CCW is so bad, how come ALL other states have it and
NO STATE has repealed it, and MANY states have steadily loosened restrictions.?"

Bill

Bad Water Bill
10-20-2013, 07:43 PM
We are trying to fix some of the stupid stuff even now.

"HB3651 – GOOD BILL – This bill lowers the burdensome 16-hour training rule to a more reasonable 8-hour requirement. This bill also eliminates the re-training requirements for carry permit renewals.

HB3650 – GOOD BILL – This bill provides for concealed carry reciprocity between Illinois and dozens of other states.

HB3649 – GOOD BILL – This bill reduces the exorbitant fees the State Police plan on charging people for permit applications. The state should not be allowed to price-gouge citizens who want to defend themselves ($150.00 FOR 5 YEARS). This bill would make fees more reasonable and thus allow greater access to self defense for Illinois citizens."

Just because we did get a CCW law passed does not mean it can not be improved on.

Name me ONE state that got everything right the first time?

Just waiting to go back to the state capitol in March of 14 and better yet in 15 when we should have an estimated 200,000 carry permits on the streets and no "O K CORAL".

GabbyM
10-20-2013, 10:57 PM
My health car insurance went up $600 a month starting 2014.

I think I'll say go **** yourself on Obama care and still carry a gun every where I go as I've done since I was fourteen years old.
Quit my time card job last week just for a start. $14.50 per hour just puts you in a hole.

I do appreciate all the hard work people have put into getting a CC bill passed in Illinois. But $500 a year may as well be a ticket to the moon. It is a good thing for people with $500. Shucks I spent $500 yesterday on a carburetor for my 4020 tractor. But I have to have a tractor running. I don't have to have a living breathing law enforcement officer on my ***. So there's the 22 cent option and that's all that counts in the long run. ****im. If those Chicago idiots think they can start killing off us farmers for packing a pistol then they better learn to like soilant green.

I quit. Not paying any more taxes. Health care bill under OBC is $17,000 a year just for me. ****em. I aint payin. You all really think I give a **** if the governor of Illinois says it's OK for me to pack a 380? Get a life.

Republican party, NRA and the whole lot are nothing but a diversion.

In the PRC party members can carry firearms.

Now don't get the misimpression that I'm pissed off or anything like that.

Buy the way dumb asses. I can direct sell my crop to anywhere in the world. Keep that in mind RINO's. Oh yes I'll not make money so I can't pay taxes. So sad. If that doesn't work out there is fire.

I also so much feel the need to conceal my political opinions. Sometimes it almost overwhelms me that some Communist may learn my name. FYI they've known my name for a very long time.

There is no reason we need to be afraid of these Communist *******. Remember the good old days? Commie pinko fags. That is all we are dealing with here.

Bad Water Bill
10-21-2013, 11:33 AM
STOP THE PRESSES

The REV Al Not so Sharpton just announced he has rented an apartment in Chiraq and will graciously dedicate 2 days a week to show the residents of Chiraq how to end the violence and make Chiraq a city that others can use as a model to solve their crime problems.

Taking a DEEP breath and holding it.:evil:

km101
10-21-2013, 01:59 PM
How many security guards does little Al have? And how are they armed?

Reminds me of the political stunt in the 80's where a Chicago politician or two got apts. in the Cabrini Green (sp?) area to show that "regular" people could live there. That lasted about 2 months, security guards and all. Just another political stunt!

Bad Water Bill
10-21-2013, 03:38 PM
That was the (at that time ) "Mayor Jane Byrne".

No one has ever stated just what the total cost to restore an apartment to a living condition or the cost of security cost the city of Chiraq.

One family moved into an apartment as it was finished. Yes a brand new 17 story apartment complex to house the needy, and proceeded to BBQ a whole hog in their bath tub.

Bad Water Bill
10-21-2013, 06:04 PM
Alert: Gun Control Forum Featuring German Police at EIU Charleston this evening


A quick note:
Members sent in this story, here's the headline and the lead sentence from The Journal Gazette and Times-Courier, if you are in the area you should try to attend tonight.

Gun control forum set for Monday

Two German police representatives will lead a discussion on how the issues of gun control are being handled in Europe during a gun forum at 7 p.m. Monday at Eastern Illinois University's Lumpkin Hall Auditorium.

LUCKYDAWG13
10-21-2013, 06:15 PM
i thought Sharpton lived in NY. maybe Jesse will move in next door to him now wouldn't that be a Hoot

Bad Water Bill
10-21-2013, 08:40 PM
Jesse is nothing but a racist.

He has called himself REVEREND for 50 years and still has not collected a congregation or established a church he can call his own.

He has an 87% illegitimacy rate in HIS community,a son going to a FEDERAL gray bar hotel the first of the month and when Jr gets out the wife goes in.

We do not want to talk about the crime rate in HIS community.

Al "Not So Sharpton" moved here several years ago and almost immediately abandoned ship.

Will they improve THEIR community? I seriously doubt it in my lifetime.

It is all smoke and mirrors to promote their ego and get more grant (graft) money from folks and the feds.