Ideal 313243

[jgh4445]

I bought 10 Lyman and 2 Ideal molds in a box at an estate sale. I can I identify all except the Ideal 313243 single cavity mold. Isn't an Ideal 313 usually 30 or 32 cal? Great looking boolit, something akin to the Keith style 357's. Can anyone help me ID this one? I've looked at every online Ideal catalog I can find, including the links on this site and the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. No luck. I may just have to cast a boolit, measure and weigh it.

[Hamish]

This is the only reference to a 31?243 I can find:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=731450

Would like to see a pic of the mold or a casting,,,,,(I guess I'm going to have to join THR,,,,):bigsmyl2:

[jgh4445]

LOL...that is my post on the high road. The older gentleman whose "estate" they came from didn't remember what they were either.

[jgh4445]

LOL...that is my post on the high road. The older gentleman whose "estate" they came from didn't remember what they were either.I think I may have listed it as a 311243 when it really is a 313243.

[jgh4445]

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This is a picture of the mold cavities

[Larry Gibson]

Looks like just a slightly larger diameter version of the 3118 (311008).

Larry Gibson

[jgh4445]

You may have solved the mystery. The number 313 appears on the left side of the mold at about the 9 o'clock position. Farther over to the right, at about 3 o'clock is the lone number 8. There are no 0's in front of it but there is room for about a dozen of them. Then way down at the bottom of the mold is the number 243 which is centered about 4 or 5 lines below the 313 and the 8.

[jgh4445]

UPDATE: Ya'll are not going to believe this. I need new glasses I guess. Larry put me on to this as it turns out with his last post. It is indeed, without a doubt, a 311008. I didn't know that sometimes the 0's were left off. As to why I thought is was a 313? Well, there was a small mark of some sort right in the middle of the last "1" that made it look like a 3. When I cleaned it, the mark came off and lo and behold it was a 1! Mystery solved! Thanks guys!

[beagle]

That's more like it. According to Jon's list, the #243 cherry was #311243 and was a 154 grain RN./beagle

[Green Frog]

You may have solved the mystery. The number 313 appears on the left side of the mold at about the 9 o'clock position. Farther over to the right, at about 3 o'clock is the lone number 8. There are no 0's in front of it but there is room for about a dozen of them. Then way down at the bottom of the mold is the number 243 which is centered about 4 or 5 lines below the 313 and the 8.

The original designation was indeed 3118... this was the eighth cherry design Ideal had. Over the years new cherries were cut and quite recently (say 25 years ago or so) when they cut a new cherry, somebody decided it should reflect the standard 6 digit listing then in use, so added the intervening zeroes to get 311008. It is supposedly the same design, but as with all old Ideal designs, there is some "drift" as new cherries replace old ones.

Froggie