BREAKING NEWS: Gov. Brown Signs Lead Ammo Ban

[texasmac]

The following is from the National Shooting Sports Foundation:

BREAKING NEWS: Gov. Brown Signs Lead Ammo Ban; Vetoes Bill to Outlaw Rifles with Detachable Magazines

California Gov. Jerry Brown has signed into law AB 711, a statewide ban on the use of traditional ammunition in hunting, the first such ban in the nation, NSSF has just learned. NSSF and a coalition of hunting, sportsmen, gun-owners, labor and some law enforcement officials had urged him to veto this anti-hunting bill.

At the same time, Brown has vetoed SB 374, a measure that would have classified any semiautomatic center-fire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds of ammunition or less as an assault weapon. This bill would have required that all such firearms be registered with the state and make their future sale illegal. He also vetoed AB 180 that would have allowed the City of Oakland to enact its own ordinance regarding firearms that would be even more restrictive than state law.

“We are greatly disappointed that Gov. Brown decided to sign AB 711, which as we view things today will effectively end or greatly curtail hunting in California, given the restrictions on the use of non-traditional ammunition.” said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel. “We will have more to say on this important issue, but it is mind boggling that the governor would shut down this American tradition and actually imperil the substantial conservation funding that is provided to California through the federal excise tax on ammunition.”

Keane continued: “We are pleased that Gov. Brown vetoed SB 374 and AB 180, however, as these proposed restrictions on law-abiding Californians would have done nothing to make the state safer.”

Brown also signed AB 48 that bans magazine conversion kits.

[Silver Jack Hammer]

Just last night my wife wanted to retire in California where it's warm and she has family. I told her no because of that Governor and I cast boolits.

[Texantothecore]

The following is from the National Shooting Sports Foundation:

BREAKING NEWS: Gov. Brown Signs Lead Ammo Ban; Vetoes Bill to Outlaw Rifles with Detachable Magazines

California Gov. Jerry Brown has signed into law AB 711, a statewide ban on the use of traditional ammunition in hunting, the first such ban in the nation, NSSF has just learned. NSSF and a coalition of hunting, sportsmen, gun-owners, labor and some law enforcement officials had urged him to veto this anti-hunting bill.

At the same time, Brown has vetoed SB 374, a measure that would have classified any semiautomatic center-fire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds of ammunition or less as an assault weapon. This bill would have required that all such firearms be registered with the state and make their future sale illegal. He also vetoed AB 180 that would have allowed the City of Oakland to enact its own ordinance regarding firearms that would be even more restrictive than state law.

“We are greatly disappointed that Gov. Brown decided to sign AB 711, which as we view things today will effectively end or greatly curtail hunting in California, given the restrictions on the use of non-traditional ammunition.” said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel. “We will have more to say on this important issue, but it is mind boggling that the governor would shut down this American tradition and actually imperil the substantial conservation funding that is provided to California through the federal excise tax on ammunition.”

Keane continued: “We are pleased that Gov. Brown vetoed SB 374 and AB 180, however, as these proposed restrictions on law-abiding Californians would have done nothing to make the state safer.”

Brown also signed AB 48 that bans magazine conversion kits.


This is why they call him "Governor Moonbeam". He is beyond the Pale.

[Baja_Traveler]

Nobody retires to Kalifornia - they all retire away from here. Beyond the complete A$$hat politicians, it's just too expensive to live here on a fixed income unless your house is completely paid off or you are a millionaire... (you know, that residence that costs 2-3 times more than every other state). Renting? Geeze - renters are paying 1 1/2 times my mortgage every month...
And then there's the high electric rates, high water rates, what the DMV charges for tags for the car is much higher than everywhere else, and on, and on, and on...

[mold maker]

That fellow that said "Go West young man, Go West" had no vision into this future.

[725]

Maybe some more mountain lions will eat the lib joggers as hunting fades. Shame

[rintinglen]

Yeah-it goes into full effect 2019, the year before I retire and move to Virginia.

[shaune509]

He screwed up the state his first time as gov in the 70's. Why did they put him back in 20+ years latter?
Shaune509

[Baja_Traveler]

He screwed up the state his first time as gov in the 70's. Why did they put him back in 20+ years latter?
Shaune509

Libtards in San Francisco and Los Angeles have the rest of this state by the short hairs I'm afraid...

[wistlepig1]

Maybe some more mountain lions will eat the lib joggers as hunting fades. Shame

I like it!

[TXGunNut]

Libtards in San Francisco and Los Angeles have the rest of this state by the short hairs I'm afraid...


There's a lot of truth to that and a lesson in it as well. We have a few big cities in TX that could very well impose their views on the rest of us. Scary thought, pretty sure the same is true in other states.

[Skipper]

Proposal to divide California

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_and_secession_in_California

"In the wake of the 2003 gubernatorial recall, Tim Holt and Martin Hutchinson proposed in newspaper op-eds that the state should split into as many as four new states, dividing distinct geographically and politically defined regions as the Bay Area, North Coast, and Central Valley, as well as the historic Shasta/Jefferson region, into their own states.
In early 2009, former State Assemblyman Bill Maze began lobbying to split thirteen coastal counties, which usually vote Democratic, into a separate state to be known as either "Coastal California" or "Western California." Maze's primary reason for wanting to split the state was because of how "conservatives don't have a voice" and how Los Angeles and San Francisco "control the state." The counties that would make up the new state would be Marin, Contra Costa, Alameda, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, San Benito, Monterey, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura, and Los Angeles Counties (San Luis Obispo and Ventura Counties vote Republican more often than Democratic but are included for geographic contiguity).
In June 2011, Republican Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone called for Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono counties (see map at right) to separate from California to form the new state of South California. Officials in Sacramento responded derisively, with governor Jerry Brown's spokesperson saying "A secessionist movement? What is this, 1860? It's a supremely ridiculous waste of everybody's time." and fellow supervisor Bob Buster calling Stone "crazy," suggesting "Stone has gotten too much sun recently."
In September, 2013, Modoc County voted to join Siskiyou County in a bid to secede and create a new "State of Jefferson". A vote has been scheduled in Butte County for October 22, 2013; Lassen County is considering a vote. Mark Baird, spokesperson for the Jefferson Declaration Committee, is reported to have said the group hopes to obtain commitments from as much as a dozen counties; after which the state legislature will be asked to permit formation of the new state."

[snaketail]

I read the reason for the lead ban was because California Condors were eating the gut piles left behind by hunters - and ingesting the bullet in the process - which leads to lead poisoning.

Two thoughts: Either the California hunters are "overkilling" the game with several bullets OR the California Condors are lead poisoned from another source and bullets are getting the blame.

If the governor made gut piles illegal the problem would go away.

Michael

[Dan Cash]

Nobody retires to Kalifornia - they all retire away from here. Beyond the complete A$$hat politicians, it's just too expensive to live here on a fixed income unless your house is completely paid off or you are a millionaire... (you know, that residence that costs 2-3 times more than every other state). Renting? Geeze - renters are paying 1 1/2 times my mortgage every month...
And then there's the high electric rates, high water rates, what the DMV charges for tags for the car is much higher than everywhere else, and on, and on, and on...

This statement is not intended to reflect on you, rather Californios in general. They retire or move away from the odious situation that exists in California and leave it behind. Upon arrival in their new, conservative, freedom loving locale, they immediately begin adgitating to enact the same odious laws they were escaping in California. Were I king, California would be cut off from the rest of the country and very strict, selective immigration rules would apply and be enforced to keep the Moonbeams and acolytes in California and out of the free states.

[palabman]

Yeah-it goes into full effect 2019, the year before I retire and move to Virginia.

You better rethink VA if McAuliffe is elected Governor.

[Duckiller]

We didn't need the latest lead boolit ban. Hunting with lead boolits anywhere condors may go has been illegal for about 4-5 years. This bill was about urban Democratic politicians telling people how to live. California just gives lip service to wanting condors to live here. If they really wanted condors in the wild they would leave dead sea creatures (whales, sea lions, otters) on the beach and let the condors eat.

[destrux]

I read the reason for the lead ban was because California Condors were eating the gut piles left behind by hunters - and ingesting the bullet in the process - which leads to lead poisoning.

Two thoughts: Either the California hunters are "overkilling" the game with several bullets OR the California Condors are lead poisoned from another source and bullets are getting the blame.

If the governor made gut piles illegal the problem would go away.

Michael

The way birds digest food (they eat rocks with it to grind the food up, and then puke the rocks up) probably grinds lead pellets up so they dissolve more than eating them solid as a person would do eating a few stray pellets in game meat.

Requiring hunters to bag their gut piles from most game animals and dispose of them in the trash would have been a much more logical solution though. The problem being that liberals know nothing about hunting and therefore shouldn't be regulating it.