remington #5 in 43 Spanish

[rmatchell]

I have never messed with rolling blocks, but came accross one today that caught my eye. Its a remington #5 in 43 spanish. The wood and metal are a lil rough but the action is tight and the bore looks perfect. They are asking 260 for it and im wondering if thats a good deal. What are your guys thought on these rifles and also what loads worked for you?

[pietro]

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My first thought is that the rifle wasn't a #5 - which was a smokeless powder action, AFAIK mostly chambered to 7x57 Mauser.

IIRC, the .43's a BP round.

$260 sounds fair - you can compare the action with all the other RB's here: http://www.rollingblockparts.com/



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[MarkP]

I have seen very rough ones at almost twice that. Most of the bores pitted and dark.

[Mk42gunner]

I also doubt that it is a No 5.

As to the price, run of the mill .22's are bringing more than that at farm auctions around here. As long as the metal isn't deeply pitted, it sounds decent to me.

Robert

[rmatchell]

Thanks for the information. I asked him about it and he said it was safe for smokeless but i dont know enough about rolling blocks to be sure. Also from what im finding so far brass might be rough to get

I like the idea of getting some older rifles. Even the thought if making the brass sounds like an interesting challenge. Plus I would love to have some different things to have to shoot with my son.

[bigted]

the 43 Spanish is an identical case as the 44-77 case. both are available from Buff arms. also 44-90 bottleneck cases will size into perfect cases for the chamber filling 43 cases. the 43 Spanish is a blackpowder chambering but I load around 22 grains 5744 and fill the rest of the case with cornmeal for a filler that is slightly compressed with the boolit. these rounds are a terrific round and the roller if in any shape at all is well worth the price you quoted. these old rollers are a hoot to play with. I say GET IT!!!

[oldremguy]

Hello Guys,

I do have a Remington #5 that was converted into a 43 Spanish rifle.
All I can think of is the gun started out as a Model#5 in 7mm that was sent to South America and at some point in time the barrel became damaged and it was converted to 43 Spanish.

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Matt

[MtGun44]

All the #5s I have seen were 7x57, Rem claims they did .30 Krag, too, never saw one, but that
doesn't mean none were made.

I assume a rebarrel if actually a #5 or more likely just BS from the seller and it is a regular
.43 Spanish BP roller.

Bill

[Mk42gunner]

Anybody ever seen one of the 8mm Lebels they were supposed to make for France during WWI? I would guess they were No 5's too.

Robert

[EdZ KG6UTS]

[QUOTE=bigted; I say GET IT!!![/QUOTE]

Eggs Ackley!!! Everyone needs an RB ~8^), miss it and you will kick your own butt later.

EdZ KG6UTS

[rmatchell]

I went in the shop today and looked this rifle over again and from what I can tell it is a #5 but he had a #5 in 7mm with a very good bore and in decent shape so I jumped on it.

I'll most likely end up the the 43 spanish also but it doesn't look like its going to be picked up very soon been there for over 6 months

[Old School Big Bore]

rmatcbell - PM sent.

[fouronesix]

I think I know what "lil rough" exterior condition means but I do know what "perfect" bore means. Given the choice between comparable 43 Spanish (?) and 7mm, I would have jumped all over the 43 Spanish for that price. Too late though since you got the 7mm.

If it is a re-barrel job, still some question in my mind about that, how do you know it is a 43 Spanish? There are several very similar cartridges/bores it could be. Any one of them can be loaded for... some more difficult than others simply because getting the right brass and the correct bullet or mold can be more expensive. But for a Rem RB and shooting cast... the 43 Spanish (?) with perfect bore would have been my choice by a wide margin.

[MtGun44]

I'd take one 7x57 RB for ten .43 Spanish, and I own both and know what each can and
cannot do. The .43 is a giant PITA to load and shoot and the 7x57 is a very accurate pussycat
which can and does shoot factory ammo very well. You did the right thing, by a mile.

Bill

[fouronesix]

I've just the opposite view and experience! The 7mm RBs have been the most common by far. And the 7mms RBs I have seen for the last 30-40 years have been all over the place on bore and chamber specs. Not to mention the general condition has been usually much worse than average. Conversely the 43 Spanish RBs have usually been in better condition with a pretty high percentage having excellent bores. Not to mention, with the right bullet, the larger diameter 43 caliber is likely a whole lot easier to get to shoot cast well, including blackpowder loads, than the smaller 7mm. To each their own and more power to you if you've found a good 7mm that shoots well, has a nice bore and chamber close to specs and shoots well.

[MtGun44]

Just an example.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52982&d=1325653240

Haven't gotten ANYWHERE near this with .43 Spanish and brass is $66 for 20 plus shipping, and several of mine
have ripped the bottom of the primer pocket out when seating a primer.

Bill