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10-03-2013, 04:10 AM
I have a Lee 2 cavity 310g mold for 44 mag and the cavity nearest to the handles regularly fails to fill out. I have tried loosening the sprue, running the melt hotter, the mold hotter but to no avail. I can see light between the sprue and mold block so the air should be able to escape. When I fill it the melt stays liquid on top of the sprue for quite a while. The lead mix is 8 to 5 of range scrap and lino.
What am I doing wrong?:sad:
groovy mike
10-03-2013, 09:17 AM
Is the hole to pour through smaller than the other? Have you tried switching which hole to fill first?
captaint
10-03-2013, 09:32 AM
If your melt is too hot, strange things will happen with mis shapen boolits. Try running the melt at no hotter than 725 and keep a regular steady pace going. After a while, you can probably reduce the melt temp to around 700 and all should be well. Mike I should have said, also, if your mold gets too hot, trouble follows.
375RUGER
10-03-2013, 10:33 AM
You say only one cav fails to fill. Switch the order in which you pour. If that doesn't help then lee-ment that cavity. I've had 6 bangers that had trouble with 1 or 2 of the cavities, no matter what order I poured, until I leemented them.
Iron Mike Golf
10-03-2013, 10:57 AM
Have you tried a pressure cast on that cavity?
JonB_in_Glencoe
10-03-2013, 11:36 AM
I would try breaking the top edges of the mold face with a diamond hone or super fine sand paper (400 or higher).
MtGun44
10-04-2013, 03:54 PM
Add a bit of tin to the alloy.
Bill
Janoosh
10-04-2013, 05:22 PM
Leementing works. Make sure vent lines are open.
Unsub
10-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Could you explain leementing, not sure what it means.
Unsub
10-04-2013, 05:44 PM
Have you tried a pressure cast on that cavity?
No as I only have a dipper.
buckwheatpaul
10-04-2013, 07:21 PM
You might need 2% tin to help it flow better.....
JonB_in_Glencoe
10-04-2013, 07:31 PM
Could you explain leementing, not sure what it means.
There is a sticky on this page, here is a link.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?654-Sure-Fire-Lee-Menting-Technique-(Aimoo-Post-Revisited)
GP100man
10-05-2013, 03:53 AM
If it`s stayin liquid for longer than a 3-4 count it`s too hot (mold) & a slower pace or touch the closed mold to a damp rag .
Too hot a mold will cook the tin & voids could be from lookin like bad fill out to right out missing parts of boolits!
That`s alot of alloy for a small mold & it takes time to disapate the heat, I can get my 310 2 holer to temp & at my leisurely pace run it hot in 10 cycles, I just have to slow down or cool the mold.
Here`s a pic of a 314299 , both were cast seconds of each other in a 2 holer lyman mold , I was going at a good pace ,even alternating which was filled first but I think the handles were retaining enuff heat to affect it since it was the hole nearest the handles.
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx110/GP100man/102_0417.jpg (http://s746.photobucket.com/user/GP100man/media/102_0417.jpg.html)
Unsub
10-08-2013, 04:40 AM
I realize now I should of explained the "not filling out" part better. It is the base that is not filling out and leaving the boolit with a rounded base.
I have done some of the lee menting and it seems to have improved the fill out.
375RUGER
10-08-2013, 11:15 AM
Have you tried a pressure cast on that cavity?
No as I only have a dipper.
You can pressure cast with a dipper. Turn your mould sideways, engage a full dipper to the sprue plate and tip both upright at the same time. Then tip the dipper away and allow a sprue to form. Then do the same for the second cavity.
MtGun44
10-08-2013, 09:19 PM
If the base is the only problem, loosen the sprue plate until it just swings
freely. If this doesn't do it, add tin to alloy.
Bill
Waaaaay to hot! work backwards.
M99SavNut
10-13-2013, 08:09 PM
Glad to stumble across this one.. Was trying out a couple of new molds (one new, the other new to me), both 4-cavity, one for a .358 rifle boolit, the other a .452 pistol boolit. The .452 mold had a "trough" for the lead, but a small (.125") sprue hole into each cavity. The .359 mold had no trough, but fairly small (.140" as compared to other, similar, 4-cavity molds with a .159") holes in the sprue plate.
I have a bottom-pour pot, but was using a dipper pot and Lyman dipper this time around to try these molds out.
Could not get the boolits to consistently fill out with either mold, even allowing for knowing when I wasn't holding the dipper correctly.
Should I deepen the countersinks/enlarge the sprue holes to match some of my other molds, just resign myself to using the bottom-pour pot (which I didn't try, so have no actual basis of comparison at this instant), or?????
Looking for your input.
Thanks,
Jess
GP100man
10-18-2013, 09:27 PM
A cold plate will cause rounded bases , try pouring a generous sprue to heat up the plate .
Also , sometimes I find myself inspecting my wares & the plate/mold will vary in fill out.
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