First can of 2400, got questions!

[338RemUltraMag]

All,

I just bought my first can of 2400 powder today and am interested in your pet loads for the 30-30 and 30-06. I would like to use the 311041 in the 30-30 and the 312-155-2R in the 30-06.

Now for a hunting load is there a 30-06 load using 2400 and a 220 gr pill that goes around 1800 fps?

Thanks for all your answers

[TCLouis]

30-30 115 grain RNFP "Soupcan" and 15.5 2400

[338RemUltraMag]

Excellent, I have the NOE 311-120-RN that I will try that with!

[YunGun]

Almost done with my first pound of 2400 in those two calibers.

Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook#4 shows:
30-30 - Lyman #311041(173gr): Alliant 2400 - 14.5gr(1586fps@27000 CUP) - 19gr(1909fps@36600 CUP).

16gr 2400 seems to be one of 'The' loads commonly referred to on here as a good starting point for the 30 cals & it seems to work well enough with the NOE 311-165 in my 30-30 (although personally I like [IMR] 4227, 4759 or 4198 better).
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30-06 - Lyman #311284(210gr): Alliant 2400 - 19gr(1592fps@27000 CUP) - 24gr(1827fps@32000 CUP).
No data listed for anything heavier than 210gr, & they don't list a load using 2400 for the 150-160gr boolit weight range for your 312-155-2R.

My best results with 2400 in the 30-06 & the Lee 170gr GC were with 18.5gr, but again I like [IMR] 4227 or 4198 a little better yet. As always, YMMV..... Hope this helps

[OverMax]

Just was at the range earlier this week with my pre 94. 041 cast shot the best with 2400 15.0 even. Started off at 18.0 and went down 1/2 gr at a time. Tight grouping at 15.0 and my rifles rear barrel open site was (almost) dead center of its adjusting dovetail. (just shade off center to its left) Wanted to try 14.7 and tweak it up to 15.0 for best targeting but I ran out of daylight. BTW I was shooting to the 100 yard mark at a 4" circle. Also tried during that same shooting session AA-2230 & IMR-4198 but A-2400 is the powder I intend to use from now on with cast on my 30-30 and 32 Spec. Brought the rifle home. Thought I might see some leading with all the shooting I did with it. Barrel was so clean all I had to do was oil it.

[338RemUltraMag]

Thanks guys, I do have the lyman reloading book, and it shows 2400 in everything. I was looking for some personal experience, like good starting points and such. Anyway, it looks like 16 gr is where I am gonna start today.

[338RemUltraMag]

Well, 18 gr of 2400 shot like **** out of my 30-30 when under a 311041... Time to try the 311-165 RD

[rintinglen]

17.5 grains under a 311-440 NOE copy shoots great from my 1953 Winchester. I have also used the same load under the 125 grain 311-465 and the 155 grain 311-466 with good results. .310 sizing for me, but my buddies Marlin is happier with .311. The 311-041 has not worked as well with 2400. The Lyman M die and the LEE FCD are your bosom companions when reloading the 30-30.

[338RemUltraMag]

Are you saying it was good or bad? I've worked up AA5744 in my 99 carbine(21gr), and now want to try another powder. 2400 would be the fastest burning that I want to try, but I also have 4227, 4198, Reloader 7, H322, AA2015, and 4895.

I got a 7" group with the load at 50 yds, I had a nice cluster at about 1" but the other 6 were strunging vertically like I have never seen! I am not sure if I should re visit that load or not.

I do have the NOE 311440 copy that I am going to try, along with the NOE 311-165 RD. I really am trying to work up a load for this deer season, I am thinking that the 311-165 is going to be the boolit just because the rifle is a marlin 336.

Oddly enough, I have a load with this rifle using the RCBS 30-180-FN and 32 gr of IMR 4350 that shoots really really well at 50 but I cant find any more 4350 anywhere.

[338RemUltraMag]

Well go ahead, my observations with this rifle and boolit shouldnt sway you from trying it, BTW was that 2400 load for the 30-06?

[popper]

stringing vertically like I have never seen same results for me with the marlin RD 180 PB, each shot was lower. Need to try filler next. Funny the chrony didn't show major fps deviations. Wondering if it is the recoil reaction, even though it is lite it's fast. I had been shooting good groups of unchecked RD with LeverE, then switched to the 2400 PB loads. Nice vertical line 6" spread.

[338RemUltraMag]

stringing vertically like I have never seen same results for me with the marlin RD 180 PB, each shot was lower. Need to try filler next. Funny the chrony didn't show major fps deviations. Wondering if it is the recoil reaction, even though it is lite it's fast. I had been shooting good groups of unchecked RD with LeverE, then switched to the 2400 PB loads. Nice vertical line 6" spread.

I know it wasnt me flinching, I was shooting a 7.62x39 bolt at 100 and shooting under an inch. I will have to try some of the dacron fluff I guess because I honestly have never seen stringing that bad ever. I am going to try the 311-165 RD and go from there. If I get the same issues then I will need to... Hell IDK what to do next!

[338RemUltraMag]

The data quoted was for 30-06.

Lyman's 45th lists the 311284 (220gr) 19-24gr 2400 1592-1827fps 27K-32K CUP.

Thank you, I will whip up a batch.

[popper]

I was just using 13 gr 2400 under the RD PB @ 50. No noise or recoil to speak of BUT! I didn't think I flinched as I was watching for the POI in the scope. Resting on bags with my fingers holding the bbl down lightly. IIRC I tried this a year ago with 16 gr, filler, stringing was there but not as bad. I'm thinking fast powder and low recoil is causing me to over compensate or something. The other load was 100 fps slower and much slower powder ( 10 shot string in an inch), everything else the same.

[338RemUltraMag]

I just shot 17gr and 18gr 2400 under the 31141 in my Savage 30-30. 17gr had 3 shots in a small cluster and 2 higher for about 2" at 50 yards. 18gr was about 3.5" vertical, so not just your rifle, and dacron won't help.

I'm going to switch to a slower burner for the 31141s to get the velocity I'm working towards.

I think this is the ticket, My hunch is that the fast powder is not launching the heavy boolit even enough. Because Like I said before, this boolit shoots really well with 32-34 gr of IMR 4350 behind it, and it is a full powder load. Problem is I can t find any 4350...

[popper]

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Sure would like to figure out why lite 2400 loads vertical string. 13 gr is bad, >14 seems to improve but 14 to 17 results were about the same. 100 fps diff. gives 0.1" drop so it's not velocity. Dacron didn't help @ 13 gr. Unique doesn't string like this. I understand harmonics & read most of the causes and solutions of BR & LR shooters. Seems like 2400 has an unusual problem with the way it burns in lite loads.

[338RemUltraMag]

I am going to try 16 gr of 2400 behind the lee 329-205 in my 8mm yugo to see if it is a boolit weight vs powder burn issue. If I see stringing here with the 8mm 215 gr boolit I will try to further the same results with my 416-450 gr boolit in my Rigby.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

16gr of 2400 is the Cast GO TO load for 30 cal mil surps in general.
always work up.
I started at 15gr. for 30-40 Krag and a 200gr. It liked 15.5 gr the best.
Good Luck,
Jon

[338RemUltraMag]

16gr of 2400 is the Cast GO TO load for 30 cal mil surps in general.
always work up.
I started at 15gr. for 30-40 Krag and a 200gr. It liked 15.5 gr the best.
Good Luck,
Jon

I am wanting to like 2400, I really am, so far it hasnt given me a good reason to. I used a known good boolit in my 30-30 and got nada, so I am going to try "the 2400 load" to see how it compares to my 15 gr Red Dot load. And I have a great 18 gr Red Dot load with my 416 Rigby using the 450 gr boolit so I am going to try using 2400 in that as well.

This is half of the fun, since I got to casting my wife even likes that I hit rummage sales looking for pewter and other items I can use to cast with. (she just likes looking at junk! Lol)

[old and wise]

thanks , just got some rl7 will try it and 2400 in my 94

[dudel]

The only question I had after my first can of 2400, is where do I get more. Great stuff.

I use if for 357mag, 22 Hornet and 30 Carbine, and SPP light it off just fine.

[popper]

I think due to bbl harmonics that 2400 in 30 cal cases has to be >14 gr. and below the max pressure. May be a small range of allowable loads. I suspect that due to a erratic burn (& erratic multiple pressure waves) at low loads, accuracy is poor. Rifle designers are smart and 'tune' them for a nice smooth pressure pulse.

[338RemUltraMag]

I just shot my 8mm yugo with 16 gr of 2400 with a lee 329-205 and freakin wow! I shot a 1" group at 50 yds and then rang the 4" gong at 100 yds for the other 10 rounds in a row! This is my new favorite load for the 8mm!

Now will this load cleanly take a deer at 100?