model 1917 Remington

[giz189]

You guys are gonna cause a divorce at my house. Now, I have this M1917 Remington bolt action rifle that my late Uncle bought from Sear in 1945 after he returned from the army. This rifle has had less than a box of shells fired thru it. After reading about all your CB loads for rifles, I guess I'm a gonna have to acquire a boolitt mould for this rifle. What would ya'll suggest starting with, as to weight and size of bullet? calibre is thutty ot six

[Scrounger]

You guys are gonna cause a divorce at my house. Now, I have this M1917 Remington bolt action rifle that my late Uncle bought from Sear in 1945 after he returned from the army. This rifle has had less than a box of shells fired thru it. After reading about all your CB loads for rifles, I guess I'm a gonna have to acquire a boolitt mould for this rifle. What would ya'll suggest starting with, as to weight and size of bullet? calibre is thutty ot six

Seems like I've heard those 1917 bores run oversize; one rumor was that they used the same barrels they used for the 1914 in .303 British, just a .30-06 chamber. In that case, I'd go with the 314299. If the bore is somewhere in the .308-.310 area, I'd use the 311284 or 311299. There are other choices.

[beagle]

My shooting partner has one with a 2 groove barrel. It shoots the 311284 just fine. Better in fact than a milsurp should shoot./beagle

[Frank46]

giz189, fat and long. Try lyman's 314299 which is their 303 british bullet or the 311299
which is the same bullet but sized for 30 caliber. A lot of the CBA guys who shoot the military matches use either one but think the 314299 is used most as it tends to seal up the throat. Try 20 or 21 grs 4759 with any 'o6 case and either rem or win lr primer. I use javelina lube and dust the bullets with motor mica. Thats to prevent them from sticking together in the boxes I keep em in. Frank

[Buckshot]

............Nope, no 303 Brit barrels on the 1917's. Due to it's military heritage it 'May' have a larger throat and maybe a longer leade then we'd like to see but the barrels should be within the 30 cal tolerance, ie bores possibly .301" and grooves to .309".

In actuality the 1917's with the 5 groove barrels (and ALL 2 grooves, counting the 03A3's and -'03's) are tighter then the regular 4 groove barrels. If you consider the 5 groove, it has 5 lands and 5 grooves. Each being of equal width. For simplicities sake lets call the lands .300" and the grooves .308". You have an effective average diameter of .304".

The 2 groovers with grooves narrower then the lands are even tighter. Consider then the std Mauser type 4 groove barrels (Krag, 1903's) with lands comprising only 25% of the interior barrel surface. The effective average here is .306" I believe. Anyone is welcome to correct my math :D !

The 5 wide lands of the 1917's should so a superb job of supporting a slug biased to the bore rider end of things, just like the 2 groove barrels do. Other then that, like any other firearm you're dealing with it's mechanical ability to shoot accurately combined with any bedding issues there may be.

After getting my Remington 1917 put together I used FL sized Federal cases and the Lyman 311284 (sized .309") over 23.0 H4198 + dacron. This is the load for my 1903A1. At Winnemucca for the 50 yard benched group shoot it shot a 1.056" 5 shot group. At this point the rifle had had just a couple test rounds fired at the home range to check function.

.............Buckshot

[PatMarlin]

I love my M1917 5 groove... my first deer rifle.

I shoot the 311284, and the Fat-30. My chamber is so tight, I had to buy a RCBS SB sizing die cause range brass would stick real bad.

Superb cast shooter... :wink: