This is why I really want a 500 S&W someday

[MBTcustom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-NDjUJlbaw

[Gunslinger1911]

Cool vid ! Yup, they are fun !!! I got the John Ross 5", really nice cannon.

Just something cool about putting 1/2" holes in something.

The power is really over the top with hot loads. I'm not very recoil sensative, (enjoy hot 454 Casull), but the 500 with top end loads is really something !

[44man]

You got me started watching most of the videos. Lot of fun until I seen the Taurus break.

[MBTcustom]

It's just amazing the penetration difference between the 454 or 44mag and the 500S&W. Although I did notice that they were using FMJ with the 500.
Still, that's a lot of power in a small package.

What video are you talking about 44man?

[RobsTV]

This is one of my favorites..
Run Kern, run!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6BVojZmTIU

[MBTcustom]

That is freaking pathetic.

Ok, I think I found the one with the destroyed Tuarus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJv9VuXyjyQ

[btroj]

It's a Taurus, what do you expect?

Now blow up a Ruger like that, that takes effort. Or stupidity. Or both?

[MBTcustom]

I love this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBqZ62JpgHo

[missionary5155]

Good morning
Do you wonder if some of those"take apart toys" were done on purpose just to get the "hits" on U Tube ?
One thing for sure with the 500 S&W . If anyone every sticks that barrel in a bears mouth and touches it of that bear will be belching out his ears.
Mike in Peru

[NVScouter]

HAHAHAHA!

Good legs on that kid. Did he think it was going to chase him after it bit him like that?


This is one of my favorites..
Run Kern, run!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6BVojZmTIU

[starmac]

That boy will have a hard sell as a gangsta.

[44man]

Yeah, cracked frame. Had to be over loaded hand loads. Then the dip kept shooting it with no barrel.
How can those Russians afford the guns?

[41 mag fan]

Yeah, cracked frame. Had to be over loaded hand loads. Then the dip kept shooting it with no barrel.
How can those Russians afford the guns?

Fast and furious Russian style!!

[cbrick]

It's just amazing the penetration difference between the 454 or 44mag and the 500S&W. Although I did notice that they were using FMJ with the 500.

Rather poor representation of the 454 by using a light for caliber bullet of 250 gr against the 500's 350 gr. There is a huge difference in momentum between the two bullets and momentum is what carries it through the medium be it a bear or water jugs. Also, what 250 gr bullet was used, a rather fragile 45 Colt bullet? What was the velocity of the rounds? I might be pooping on the party here but to me the video looks like nothing more than someone trying to show off their favorite cartridge. A 454 with basically the same penetration as a 44 mag? Really?

Rick

[MBTcustom]

Rather poor representation of the 454 by using a light for caliber bullet of 250 gr against the 500's 350 gr. There is a huge difference in momentum between the two bullets and momentum is what carries it through the medium be it a bear or water jugs. Also, what 250 gr bullet was used, a rather fragile 45 Colt bullet? What was the velocity of the rounds? I might be pooping on the party here but to me the video looks like nothing more than someone trying to show off their favorite cartridge. A 454 with basically the same penetration as a 44 mag? Really?

Rick

The wonders of HP ammunition?
To be honest, I was surprised by all of the calibers. Seemed like every one of them stopped rather short. I wonder if the bullets were really stopped or if they just veered off those little bottles? Wouldn't take much to get off track.

[cbrick]

Yep, even the 45 ACP with mid range loads will penetrate better than that . . . with the right boolit. I did expansion testing with the 45 ACP using the Lyman Devastator and 068 with the same loads by shooting straight down into 3 feet of water in a drum with steel plates on the bottom. The devastator opened up and mushroomed beautifully but I'd bet it didn't penetrate more than a few inches before it just sank to the bottom, not a mark on them from hitting the plates. The 068 penetrated all three feet of water and flattened out on the steel plates. Same load, cartridge, gun, two different boolits and two radically different results.

My post wasn't to degrade the 500, fine cartridge for those that need such a round. It's just that there are so many variables (aren't there always) that the video came across as nothing more than a stunt and proves nothing what-so-ever.

Rick

[wch]

I'm sure that most of these videos will explain to anyone why I don't ever want an S&W 500.

[RobsTV]

I'm sure that most of these videos will explain to anyone why I don't ever want an S&W 500.

You are only seeing one extreme from those videos.
It is not nearly as bad as they show.
Here is a 50 year old women shooting one, and although it still was a surprise, she still shoots it occasionally since it is so much fun too shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7u9vJ5pHJ8

[MtGun44]

If they used a cast 310 in .44 mag they would have a lot different penetration.
I've seen more Ferraris and Maseratis, etc in Moscow than anywhere in the USA
except the concourse show at Pebble Beach. Lots of rich folks over there.

Probably not filmed in Russia, owning a handgun there is nearly impossible for
ordinary folks.

Bill

[MBTcustom]

If they used a cast 310 in .44 mag they would have a lot different penetration.
Bill

You did what to that chicken?

[MtGun44]

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

Bill

[MBTcustom]

LOL!
It's a local expression.
It means "I missunderstood what you said, please explain more clearly."

If they used a cast 310 in .44 mag they would have a lot different penetration.
I didn't understand your statement, and was hoping you would elaborate on what you meant. Perhaps a typo?

[Whiterabbit]

I'll OWN a 460 any day over a 500. But I must say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1d7i3i0LLI

It never seems to get old to watch.

[John Allen]

I have wanted a 500 for awhile and this video did not help.

[MBTcustom]

Yeah, they rock.
Disregard the following picture. It's just a 1/2" piece of 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum plate, shot at 35 yards with a 500 S&W.
82735

[MtGun44]

OK, I was quite confused. I had no idea what you meant. :confused:

I was just thinking that the typical 240 gr JHP in .44 Mag wouldn't penetrate anywhere
near as far in water-filled bottles as a hard cast 310 grain boolit. Not expanding and being
heavier would both help it plow through farther.

Bill

[wch]

You are only seeing one extreme from those videos.
It is not nearly as bad as they show.
Here is a 50 year old women shooting one, and although it still was a surprise, she still shoots it occasionally since it is so much fun too shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7u9vJ5pHJ8


Yep, RobsTV, I could spend a lot of money for a handgun that has no purpose, so that I could develop a flinch.

[lup]

A 500 S&W handgun has a purpose. Most people shoot it just for fun however.

[RobsTV]

Also, at new retail prices of around $1000, it is no more expensive than any other normal handgun such as S&W 44 magnums, while being less expensive than many popular handguns.

The thing that pushed me to it was, if I get a 44, or even a 460 (which a reloader will usually end up shooting only one caliber of the many it accepts), I will know that there still is one slightly bigger and more powerful, for about the same price, and if I get that bigger one, since .50 is the largest caliber legally allowed in a handgun, I will no longer have to wonder "what if". If you are gonna go big, might as well go a tad bigger to the biggest possible, otherwise, you'll end up buying the bigger one eventually anyway. Plus, 1/2 inch holes just sounds better to me. At least that was my logic. Now that I have a 500, I have zero desire or interest in getting a 44 or 460. Why?

Too powerful to enjoy shooting? Heck, the 44 magnum kicks more than some of the 500 loads. Just because it can produce 3000 ftlbs of energy does not mean you must shoot it with 3000 ftlbs. The video I posted above was with the following: 385 Grain Remington Core-Lokt, AA5744 33gr, 1145 fps, pf=441, 1121 ft/lbs, and was about the same recoil and kick as factory loads in 8" 44 magnum we all shot the same day.

We all have our own limits. Some might think the kick of 40 S&W is too much. The wife's Bodyguard 380 annoys my finger enough to have no desire to shoot it after one magazine, yet she can shoot it all day. My limit on the 500 was found when I hit 1768fps 778pf 3054ft/lbs with 440gr GC boolits. I decided to normally keep it under 1350fps with that boolit, and it's actually pleasant to shoot at less than 1300fps with the 440gr slugs. Shooting 40 rounds through the 500 in a session is not uncommon (and I'm more of an out of shape couch potato, not someone that would ever think of exercising).

The smiles you have while quickly turning cinder blocks into pebbles are hard to beat.

BTW, this was not only the first Magnum I have purchased, it was the first Magnum I had ever shot. So I had no Magnum fear going into it like some might have. My black powder 1884 45-70 leaves me more bruised than this magnum ever could.

[Ghost101]

Well I'll tell you what, my 6 1/2 S&W .500 mag has been the most expensive firearm I have ever owned !!! I got this beauty an fiqured out that I could never be able to afford the ammo needed to really have fun. So what did I do. Well I started casting for this gem. Hadn't done this before in all the years that I have been shoot'n. Started off with a Lee 10 lb ladle pot, an a Lee 440 gr mold. then I found this place here an the money started to flow. Not complaining mind you, but now I'm casting for, 9mm, .38 spl, .357mag, 40s&w, 10mm, 44mag, 45acp, 45Colt, .500S&W, 5.56, 6.8spc, .308, .300wm, .45Bushmaster, 12ga, .54 RB black powder, .36 & .45 BP. Added a RCBS bottom pour pot. Got the Lee sizers, then picked up an RCBS sizer an ran into a Star sizer. Got into making my own lube just so I knew how. There are alot of new little tools that I found out I just had to have. Went Mad looking for molds to buy for all these calibers. Just picked up a pin gauge set for my revolvers, which is going to cost me so much more money in chamber mods an the molds to fit them.
This all
started as a Divorce present to my self after 32 yrs. of marriage. I didn't buy a sports car or a new H-D, ( my 2003 only has 200,000+ miles on her). No I just bought a .500 S&W!
By the way, I had loaded up some 340gr GC boolits for my Ruger Vaq. an took them out to the range today. Started off with 50 rds. an five different loads. Started with 16.0 grs. of 2400 up to 17.5 grs. Chrono them, 5 for the chrono an five for the target. I'm still smiling.
Plus all the people I have talked with on here and the new ones at the range, has made that .500 the best purchase I've made.

Heck Ya, I Love my .500 S&W.

P.S.
Goodsteel, I want to thank you an Larry Gibson an many more for taking the time an effort to post such GREAT information to guys like me. This has givin such great joy at this point in time in my life. God Bless an take care!
Ghost101

[MBTcustom]

That's the best dad burned compliment I have ever received. I must be doing something right if you're putting my name in the same sentence as Larry Gibson LOL!
Heck when I came here I thought I was really hot stuff, cause I've been doing this since I was a kid. I didn't know anything but how to get lousey groups and dam near ruin my molds in the process.
Well, I'm shooting some better, I got almost all of my molds restored to their original glory (better even) and I find that my old love of cast lead was just the tip of the dad burned iceberg! I'm still learning, but it was fellers like Molly, Larry Gibson, Cbrick, Recluse, Felix, Geargnasher (Ok, quite a bit from Geargnasher. Shss don't tell him) run5run, Waksupi, on and on and on. Many other mentors here, weather they know it or not.

I loved your story Ghost101, because it pretty much sums it up. You started out just wanting to save money, but now it's more than that. It's an art, it's booletry, we're booliteers!

[Ghost101]

Well Sir, there are many good teachers here but I just couldn't remember all the handles or names. Hope I haven't hurt their feelings by not remembering. I must try to remember.

Ghost101

[MtGun44]

Booliteers!

I like the ring of that.

Bill

[cbrick]

Wasn't there a movie . . . The Three Booliteers?

Oh wait, that was the Three Musketeers . . . But muskets shoot boolits so . . .

Rick

[Ghost101]

Why not "The Ring of Booliteers". Once did a movie called "The Ring of The Musketeers". HaHaaaa

Ghost101

[Ole]

Stacking a bunch of anything in a skinny long line is a really really horrible way to "test" penetration.

The 44 Mag and 454 round probably yawed and never hit the later jugs because they yawed.

Fun video though.

[MBTcustom]

They only yawed because they weren't awesome enough to make it through all the jugs! LOL!

[savagetactical]

I would love to have a lever gun in 500 S&W but i have no interest in a revolver

[Ghost101]

Well, Savagetactical , your in Luck as there is a company that makes a .500 S&W Lever action . Big Horn Armory, is manufacturing a rifle an a carbine, model 98. Based on Brownings design only a mite bit larger I would guess. Not cheap but with all the moneys we are saving casting an rolling our own, should be doable. I may have to get remarried an then divorced in order to buy myself a nice present. Anyway you can find them here;


www.bighornarmory.com

774 Road 2AB,
Cody Wy
(307) 586-3700

I hope you will let us know how they are. I was hoping that someone would make one in a Browning 1919 style. Belts are cheaper then mags. lolam (laughing out loud at myself)

Ghost101

[MBTcustom]

Well, Savagetactical , your in Luck as there is a company that makes a .500 S&W Lever action . Big Horn Armory, is manufacturing a rifle an a carbine, model 98. Based on Brownings design only a mite bit larger I would guess. Not cheap but with all the moneys we are saving casting an rolling our own, should be doable. I may have to get remarried an then divorced in order to buy myself a nice present. Anyway you can find them here;


www.bighornarmory.com

774 Road 2AB,
Cody Wy
(307) 586-3700

I hope you will let us know how they are. I was hoping that someone would make one in a Browning 1919 style. Belts are cheaper then mags. lolam (laughing out loud at myself)

Ghost101

Trust me, that's cheap! The only way they can offer those rifles at that price, is because they make everything in house from scratch.
I would like to own one of those very much!

[savagetactical]

Trust me, that's cheap! The only way they can offer those rifles at that price, is because they make everything in house from scratch.
I would like to own one of those very much!

So would I , sadly right now I have to spend all my money on frivolous things like groceries.