Try some plain base .30 cal. ? ?

[Ben]

My friend Bryan ( As of 2 yrs. ago, Bryan had never fired a cast rifle bullet ) shot this with plain base bullets 2 days ago.

Pretty impressive in my opinion. Bryan and I are having a lot of fun shooting plain based .30 cal. cast bullets.

This may be something you might want to try soon ?
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American Select powder, 7.5 grs.
Modern Bond 190 gr. cast bullet - plain base bullet
Air cooled wheel weights
Rear groove ( only ) Lubed with Ben's Red
Sized .311"
Fed 210 large rifle primer,
Savage 110 Rifle , Heavy Barrel - 308 Win.
20 Power scope
5 rounds @ 50 yds.

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That's a 3/4 " aiming square to help keep things in perspective.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/0916131724.jpg

Here is a photo of the Modern Bond 190 gr. plain base bullet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/010_zps42b9b38e.jpg

[725]

Nice lookin' boolit, Ben. Good shooting, too.

[Ben]

Nice lookin' boolit, Ben. Good shooting, too.

It has been a good shooter for me.

[baker1425]

Is select pretty clean burning in that app?

[Ben]

50 rounds, a single dry cotton patch down the bore and the bore shines.

Yes, very clean.

[Outpost75]

Here are results of testing in my ca. 1980 Ernst Appel, Wurzburg scoped Mauser .30-'06 Sporter, SIXTY shots fired continuously without cleaning:

Four ten-shot groups plus one 20-shot group which includes a "weather report" because the wind caught me while firing the first ten shots and "spoiled" the group, so I hammered another ten rounds on top of the first ten. So nothing is excluded, the good, bad and the ugly is plain for all to see. The results speak for themselves.

An average of 2" for a series ten shot groups at 100 yards, firing a hunting weight rifle with skinny Euro-style Schnabel fore-end, 4X hunting scope with post reticle, as-cast, unsized, visually inspected only bullets cast from a six-cavity gang mold. Loaded in mixed headstamp, GI ball cases, Remington 9-1/2 primers, measured charges of 8.4 grains Bullseye. Bullets were cast lightly frosted from straight wheelweights. Tumbled in Lee Liquid Alox, loaded WITHOUT GASCHECK, as-cast, no filler was used, no attempt whatever was made to orient the powder charge. Just shove'em in the magazine and bang each 5 rounds off from the magazine in about 30 seconds, reload, repeat. I waited about 5 minutes between each 10-shot rapid-fire group, except for the group of 20, in which case I fired double strings of rapid from sandbags, fired back to back, completing the last ten shots firing from a hot barrel, letting the wind to blow the heat mirage out of the scope as if repelling a charging horde of bunny wabbits!

The core group of 19 of 20 shots was under 3", the wind flier occurring during the first ten rounds opened the composite 20 shot group to about 4". This, gentlemen is reality.

The bullet is the HM .312-160-6 of Ed Harris design from the current group buy. Now we know the bullet is good, time to see how it does with enough 4064 to cycle my M1 Garand!

82096

[Prospector Howard]

I bought a used Savage 110 in 30-06 just for this, for the huge some of $150 about 15 years ago. I noticed a thread in the factory rifle section about .357 bolt action rifles and had to laugh, a thousand dollars; my gawd. Why not pick up an inexpensive Savage 110 and just load it with plain base cast boolits with pistol powder behind it? I made a tumble lube mold that drops them out at 190 grains and .310. Tumble them in Lee mule snot. Put some Unique behind them, and shoot all I want for practically the same cost as loading cast pistol rounds. I think they're easier to reload too, just neck sizing with the Lee collet die. If I want to get real fancy, use a gas check boolit and 2400 for longer range shooting.

[Ben]

Prospector Howard

You speak with wisdom.

Ben

[geargnasher]

Prospector Howard

You speak with wisdom.

Ben

Yes he does.

How do you measure your American Select? That stuff is like corn flakes best I recall.

Gear

[Ben]

Gear:

I use an old SAECO powder measure.
Works for me.

Of course, flake powder as you've mentioned can be " difficult ".

[geargnasher]

I'll have to give that a try sometime, so many people are crowding my property lines now that I'm working-up more and more low-velocity, relatively quiet loads so I can keep shooting here at home without all the city-transplants freaking out and dialing 9-1-1.

Gear

[btroj]

9-1-1? In Texas? They don't just shoot you themselves?

Quiet loads are nice too. Sometimes it is nice to sit and plink at little targets with the knowledge that you can hit them all.

[popper]

How fast?