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tacotime
09-04-2013, 09:45 PM
This soft .452 guy is often marked for .45 Colt.

Any reason not to use this in .45ACP revolver loads?

I don't see any load tables for it.

Anyone have experience?

Thanks.

bobthenailer
09-06-2013, 08:07 AM
These loads are from the now disconued Midway Load Map for the 45 acp & Speers 250 gr lead SWC.
COL @ 1.275

Bullseye powder- 4.1 @712 fps to 5.3 @856 fps

Unique powder- 5.1 @713 fps to 6.5 @840 fps

Herco powder- 5.6 @732 fps to 7.4 @921 fps

Red Dot powder- 4.2 @707 fps to 5.2 @840 fps

231 powder-4.5 @688 fps to 5.7 @840 fps

300savage
09-06-2013, 02:54 PM
12.5 grains of 2400
You will like it I assure you.

tacotime
09-25-2013, 10:20 PM
Thanks... I'll try some out.

Outpost75
09-25-2013, 10:58 PM
Speer No.13 lists 9 grs. of Blue Dot or 6.2 grs. of Unique for 824 fps.
4.1 of Bullseye gives 709 fps. in my S&W .45 Hand Ejector Military.

300savage
09-26-2013, 11:36 PM
i made a mistake here! for some reason i thought you were asking about a45acp in a revolver. 12.5 is waaay too much in a semi auto! absolute max is 10 to 11 grns. i so hope my mistake did not cause you trouble.

Airman Basic
09-27-2013, 05:49 AM
Years ago, used to deer hunt with a cast 250 grain SWC and a big charge of Blue Dot. Took several deer, all within 50 yards successfully with a series 70 Gold Cup. Still got it, still shoots good. It's a snap-shooting dude in the deer woods, too.

300savage
09-27-2013, 10:26 AM
Well heck I guess you were talking about a revolver after all, I just read the title again and had a baby panic attack.
So for the record please completely disregard absolutely everything I say from now until I get off these dam pain pills please.
Sorry about that.

sniper
09-27-2013, 01:14 PM
Careful there! watch for excessive pressures...
Why? one day, when I was relatively new at shooting and handloading, I was shooting with my shooting buddy and his brother-in-law. He had done some "special loads" for his 1911, using some flavor of 250gr. boolit, which iirc, was designed for the 45-70, and sized ~.453. I checked a loading manual later, and found he had used a small overload of Bullseye, iirc.
I was standing right next to him, and noticed that he would shoot, and the brass would go high, wide, and handsome! He'd shoot, and I would wait a tick, stick out my hand, say "I got it!", and catch the ejected brass. I noticed there was a nice bulge in the first one, and next, there was a neat little scoop blown out of the side, then on the next shot, his gun disassembled itself...the barrel bushing broke, and it and the recoil spring ended up on the ground about 6 feet in front of us.

John Browning saved him and possibly me from injury! Soooo...be really careful!

300savage
09-27-2013, 07:05 PM
Sniper you are so very correct.
I do however shoot a lot of 255 grain in both my Kimber and my Glock in front of 11 grains of 2400 with no troubles so far.
It gives an average of 915 over the chrony.
The 12.5 grain load is for revolvers, not semi auto and I unfortunately am still on my pain meds for my busted pelvis and thought I read the OP incorrectly.
After review I see that I had not.
However these loads are indeed on the warm side of things and should be approached with the normal cautions.
But I can see that until I am no longer taking these darn things, even though I have cut myself down to half dosage to start weaning myself off, I am not going to give out any more load advice until I am done with them. Too easy to make mistakes.
But your warning is well heeded, and thanks.