RCBS 44-250KT Clone

[35 Whelen]

Do any of the custom makers make this mould? Would anyone make a mould if I sent them some sample bullets from my mould? I LOVE my 44-250KT mould but the 2-cavity is a bit slow for my shooting habits.

35W

[BruceB]

How slow is "too slow"?

It may be that just changing your casting methods will solve the problem.

With my 2-cavity RCBS moulds (including a 44-250-KT like yours) it's no great trick to cast400 to 500 bullets per hour.... would that be enough?

Go to page 1 of the Stickies and Classics forum, and "BruceB's Speedcasting Method" is near the bottom of that page. See what you think.

[35 Whelen]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have a 4-cavity NOE 429421. It casts at just the right speed...:-P

35W

[GLL]

The RCBS 44-250KT is one of my VERY favorite designs ! I cast with two sets simultaneously and beautiful bullets pile up quickly !

http://www.fototime.com/2CB4022C53F7A88/standard.jpg

Call Tom at Accurate Molds and he can design you a 5-cavity clone. It will be in your hands within a couple weeks ! :)

Jerry

[runfiverun]

that's a lot of shooting.
I can loaf along at 300+ an hour with a nice rcbs 2 cav mold.

[35 Whelen]

that's a lot of shooting.
I can loaf along at 300+ an hour with a nice rcbs 2 cav mold.

Tell me about it! One of the few vices to having a shooting range within a few feet of your loading bench...the expenditure of LOTS of bullets.

35W

[MtGun44]

MP made a wonderful H&G 503 clone, one of the very best Keith 250 designs,
only very slightly and inconsequentially different than the RCBS mold, and
he made 4 cav and I think 6 cav versions. Highest quality molds, too.

Bill

[PWS]

The RCBS 44-250KT is one of my VERY favorite designs ! I cast with two sets simultaneously and beautiful bullets pile up quickly !

http://www.fototime.com/2CB4022C53F7A88/standard.jpg


Jerry

That middle RCBS version sure looks good. The crimp and grease grooves on most 44 Keith versions are way too big in my opinion.

FWIW, MiHec is taking names for another run of his #503: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?202158-Rerun-Mihec-H-amp-G-503-Clone-432-250

[GLL]

As Bill pointed out the MP 503 clone is indeed very similar to the RCBS 44-250KT !

I have the MP 4-cavity Cramer HP version and the 6-cavity aluminum solid. Both are outstanding ! :)

Jerry

[35 Whelen]

I'd love to sign up for that mould but I was on another GB with MiHec FOREVER without any movement, so I finally gave up. I may get in touch with Accurate and see if I can send him a sample of my 44-250KT and get him to make a mould from it.

35W

[Bucking the Tiger]

Although it may differ in slight details( crimp groove size, front driving band width) NOE makes a 5 cavity version of the Lyman #429421 that I have owned for a while and really love. It is my main mold and use almost every day.
It can make a pile of bullets quick and they shoot really well. My favorite test is to take my handguns to the rifle range and bang the plate targets with my loads. This bullet will do it, if I do my part,consistently.

[35 Whelen]

Although it may differ in slight details( crimp groove size, front driving band width) NOE makes a 5 cavity version of the Lyman #429421 that I have owned for a while and really love. It is my main mold and use almost every day.
It can make a pile of bullets quick and they shoot really well. My favorite test is to take my handguns to the rifle range and bang the plate targets with my loads. This bullet will do it, if I do my part, consistently.

Yep, I have this in a 4C version. It's a great mould that makes great, accurate bullets, but I slightly favor the RCBS design. The RCBS has a slightly "fatter" nose section and the first driving band is wider...or longer, whichever you want to call it.

35W

[War Eagle]

The RCBS 44-250KT is one of my VERY favorite designs ! I cast with two sets simultaneously and beautiful bullets pile up quickly !

http://www.fototime.com/2CB4022C53F7A88/standard.jpg

Call Tom at Accurate Molds and he can design you a 5-cavity clone. It will be in your hands within a couple weeks ! :)

Jerry


This may be a stupid question but how similar is that 245KT to the 245SWC that is currently listed in catalogs? Or is it the same?

[GLL]

War Eagle:

Actually a very good question !

RCBS changed all of the "KT" designations to "SWC" several years ago. The 44-245KT and the 44-245SWC are both RCBS Part No. 82043 and the same mold.

The 44-250KT and 44-250SWC are both RCBS Part No. 82044.

Jerry

[War Eagle]

Beautiful, thanks for the clarification!

[bhn22]

If you're set on the RCBS version, I too suggest getting a second mold and casting with both at once. I always cast with two molds anyway, so it has never mattered to me what the second mold is.

[GLL]

Just for reference:

http://www.fototime.com/4CC3364AB74B8ED/orig.jpg

The BC #1103=H&G 503.

Jerry

[doghawg]

I have both of the currently produced RCBS molds in question. I seem to be getting better accuracy with the same guns and loads with the 245 SWC than I do with the 250 K. Not saying the 250K is inaccurate but in my experience it has been more finicky to find good loads for than the 245 in either a scoped SRH or scoped Mod 29.

[GLL]

doghawg:

Are you referring to the 250K or the 250KT ?

I am not a big fan of the large crimp groove on the 44-250K although it is much more popular than the 44-250KT !
I also prefer the wider front band on the 44-250KT over the 44-245KT.

Most of my use is in S&W 624s and 24-3s (.44Special) rather than .44 Magnum.

Jerry

[doghawg]

Jerry
My 250-K is p/n #82080 and it has deeper crimp and lube grooves than needed IMO. My 245 SWC is p/n # 082043 and it has been a solid performer in mag and spl loads. The 245 and Lymans 429244 are in a dead heat for me accuracy wise.

[PWS]

Is the #82044 "44-250KT" currently being produced? RCBS's website only shows the 82042 (gc), 82043 (245 swc) and the 82080 (the true "Keith" like the BC#1103/H&G & MP #503/Lyman 429421) for ~250gr swcs.