Anyone like Titewad?

[FergusonTO35]

Anybody use Titewad in pistols with cast boolits? I picked some up today, the only powder other than magnum rifle I've seen for awhile. Looks like its pretty fast burning, close to Red Dot. I'm going to try it in .32 Auto, .32 H&R, and .38 Special. Does it meter well? Are there any powders that it generally interchanges with as far as data goes?

[btroj]

I like my father in law, he is a tightwad. Does that count?

As for the powder, never used it.

[USAFrox]

I've used it to load 12 gauge, but that's it. Seemed to work fine in the 12 ga. I didn't miss any more than usual... ;-)

[MBTcustom]

I like my father in law, he is a tightwad. Does that count?

As for the powder, never used it.

Too easy B, too easy! LMAO!

honestly, I have never heard of this powder till now, although admittedly, I spent the first 15 years of my reloading trying to get everything to shoot Bullseye, Unique, 3031, and 4831.
Still playing catchup.

[bangerjim]

A lot of guys on here mistakenly get titewad instead of titegroup. There is plenty of wad on the shelves around her. Have never bought any of it due to lack of data. I don't have time to work up another load for unknown powder!!!!!

"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now, I am so far behind....I will NEVER die!" :drinks:

Looking forward to people posting any info on pistol loads they have conjured up!

bangerjim

[FergusonTO35]

Well, I'm going to try it in .32 Auto for my little Kel-Tec here soon. I figure I'll start out with 1.8 grains under a 75 grain boolit at .945 OAL. If this is successful I'll try Titewad in snubnose .32 Magnum and .38 Special too. Looking at the burn chart and what little experience has been posted Titewad seems very close to Red Dot.

[badgeredd]

I've joked with a friend that he has immortalized by a gun powder manufacturer who uses his nickname for a powder name.:drinks::kidding:.

Edd

[bangerjim]

Well, I'm going to try it in .32 Auto for my little Kel-Tec here soon. I figure I'll start out with 1.8 grains under a 75 grain boolit at .945 OAL. If this is successful I'll try Titewad in snubnose .32 Magnum and .38 Special too. Looking at the burn chart and what little experience has been posted Titewad seems very close to Red Dot.

Let us know how they fly!

I would like to try some if you have success.

bangerjim

[oscarflytyer]

Loading my first bunch of it now - 12 ga 7/8 oz load. I am working on 3/4 and 7/8 oz skeet loads. Rotator cuff rebuild on both shoulders - trying to cut back recoil and keep shooting!

The one plus is that it was only $20/lb (or 14 oz, not sure, but still cheaper). Minus is, it is SO fine it can be a pain. Don't have the A/C running nearby when you open the can!

Let me know if it works in 38 SPC cast...

[FergusonTO35]

Loaded 'em up tonight. Titewad meters really well, the .24 cavity of my Lee Micro Disk dispenses 1.8 grains every time. This powder really fills the case well too. Seems like most shops always have it in stock and is one of the cheapest powders around here. If Titewad shoots as well as it loads we have a winner!

[FergusonTO35]

I got around to trying the Titewad in .32 Auto today. I worked up to 2.1 grains, which makes an outstanding defensive load, 893 fps across my chronograph for 10 shots in my Kel-Tec P-32. I used Remington cases, Federal Gold Medal primers, 76 grain lead flat point slugs, and an OAL of .945. This is very encouraging, as Bullseye felt too hot for comfort at this level. The ejected cases looked just fine. Of course, I'll use a milder load for practice. Next Im going to see about some snub nose .38 loads with it.

[inspector_17]

As stated earlier bought Titewad thinking Tite Group. Found a load for 45 in my Lee manual. I use 3.0 gn to shoot 175 TC cast from my SR40. Yes it is smoky and dirty, but on the range, I get nice results.

[FergusonTO35]

I find Titewad is very clean burning in .32 Auto, however that's all I've tried it in so far. I really like this powder, it meters great and fills the case well.

[sargenv]

I used to use a lot of this before Promo was introduced.. it worked great in the lighter than normal target loads in 12 ga.. 3/4 and 7/8 oz loads.. though after a while, I had one lot that would still be burning a flash of powder out the loading port of my semi-auto.. I asked Hodgdon about it at the NRA convention in Reno some years back and they'd not heard of anyone else having that happen.. I attribute it to likely a few flakes building up and flashing over after several rounds.. it didn't do it all the time.. maybe 1 or 2 times per 25..

I was also shooting in the evening under lights so it was more noticeable than during the day.

[blikseme300]

OT

A friend of mine is a tightwad and his cousin recently gifted him with some coozies and t-shirts from the town of Tightwad, MO. From Wikipedia: Tightwad is a village in Henry County, Missouri, United States. Its population was 64 people in the 2010 United States Census.

[Photog]

According to the charts is have seen, Titewad is the fastest powder that Hodgdon sells/makes. That puts it up there with Bullseye/N-310/WST. Probably why it works good in the .32. Its generally assumed to be too fast for big caliber stuff like 40/10mm. Thanks for sharing the data!

[FergusonTO35]

I think Titewad is alot faster than Bullseye, just what a little cartridge in a short barrel needs. I'm going to experiment with it in snub nose .38 Special and 125 grain boolits. Wonder what a good starting point would be?

[rsrocket1]

Bullseye actually burns closer to Unique. I know all the charts put it near the top, but if you look at the load data, you can actually get near Unique velocitites with about 10% less Bullseye and still stay in the safe pressure zone. Red Dot is faster than Bullseye and will get you overpressure sooner before getting equivalent velocities to Unique.

That being said, Titewad is very close to Hodgdon Clays in terms of performance. I've used near equivalent weights of Titewad and Clays in 12 gauge shotshell loads and handgun loads (38/40/45ACP). 2.5g - 3.0g under a 158g 38 special, 180g 40 S&W or 230g 45ACP will give you a nice soft recoiling shot at low velocity while still building up enough pressure to bump the bullet, expand the case for a good gas seal and a clean burn.

Titewad is a flattened spherical powder, so flat that to me they look like flakes. It meters very well through a powder measure but it would be a good idea to tap it at each drop because the flakes are so light. In the MEC loader, the flakes tend to slide ont top of the charge bar, but not so bad that it affects the loads to any significant extent. It is quite a bit denser than Clays so it will be very hard to see at the bottom of a 38 special case. Be sure of your charges.

Unlike the Australian Clays family of powders, Hodgdon is not having supply problems with Titewad and I am seeing it show up occasionally in the stores. When I am ready for my annual purchase of shotshell powder, I'll be getting an 8 pound jug of Titewad the next time it shows up. In the mean time, I'm still doing well with my Red Dot.

Hope that helps.

[FergusonTO35]

Thanks. I find that, at least in .32 Auto, Titewad fils the case better than Bulllseye or Titegroup.

[rintinglen]

My experiments with Titewad show that 2.4 grains to 2.7 grains works well in 38 Special button style WC loads. 3.4 grains works as a good load under a 150 grain Mihec 359-640 HP. Use Clays data and work up and don't try for +P velocities.
I am going to try it in 9mm under the Lee 358-125 RF, but haven't got there yet.

[FergusonTO35]

I tried 3.0 grains under a 125 grain slug in .38 Special last Saturday and found it was an accurate, easy shooting load. When I get my S&W 642 out of layaway jail I'm going to feed it alot of Titewad.

[trochilids]

Titewad is one powder I've found on the shelves for extended periods lately at Three-Bears (like Costco in Alaska). In fact, I almost walked away with 3 pounds (at just over $15 each) the other day before I realized I was looking for TiteGROUP (as others have mentioned). Thanks for everyone sharing their thoughts on this powder. Might have to buy a few on purpose now and work some up when it comes to that.

[tazman]

The titewad bottles here are 14 ounces instead of 16, hence the lesser price.
I have been using it recently in 38 special and 9mm to get me by until I got some of my regular powder again.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I just bought a bottle 14 oz for 16.75 at LGS I was trying it in mouse fart loads . louder than I was wanting but the economy is great it takes 2 charges to get to a penny with the tax it comes to about 55 cents the hundred add in 3.50 for primers so 4.05 the the hundred rounds , lead is hard to calculate cost when it came with 4 tires and a brake job

at 3000 loads to the pound for this use

I see Hogden has data out for 9mm 38 super and 45acp now for tightwad

[revwitha9]

Picked up a couple bottles to give it a go last week. Its nomenclature is no exaggeration! Still uncertain if it will replace my usual choices; but I'm having fun with it!

[donald duck]

I purchased Tight Wad instead of tight group. Was not going to use in the flower beds so started with 2.2 grain in .38 and ended up loading a lot of it in .38 only. 2.3 to 2.4 grains in .38 148 grain wad cutter was fine. start with 2.0 to 2.2 and work up from there. Meters well. Have a RCBS Little Dandy with bushings 1 to 10. Don't throw it away!!

[tazman]

I recently had luck with titewad in 9mm under a Lee 95 rf boolit.

[revwitha9]

Found a use with 9mm. Was wondering if it works in small volume cases like 32, might it be effective in 380 acp?

[tazman]

Yes. It is a fast powder and works with small cases and/or light loads. You just need to work up your load properly is all.

[FergusonTO35]

Titewad is the best powder I've ever tried in .32 Auto. Try 2.1 grains under a 76 grain boolit at .945 OAL. This is my Kel-Tec carry load, it clocks a consistent 890 fps and is very accurate.

[Bullshop Junior]

I picked up two bottles, a reloading Manuel, and a box of primers today for $25. I'm gonna try it in my 45 colt for plinking loads.

[psychicrhino]

I picked up some titewad yesterday for 12 ga and was windering about 38 spl loading. Good info here, thaks..

[Antiquus]

I tried 3.2 and 3.5gr of Titewad behind a 148gr wadcutter and got 5 shot string averages of 788 and 800fps out of a 4" Model 64. High for a wadcutter but nicely in the .38 spec. standard range.

Also ran in .32acp up to 2.4 gr, and to try to induce any spikey behavior I used small mag primers - and nothing. The average for a 71fmj was 953fps - and get this ± 17fps. It is very clean. My gun has a large extractor cutout and at any hint of overpressure produces a Glock like bulge - also nothing - not a bulge seen even using previously bulged cases. I'm trying to get to the old Euro level of around 175ft/lbs so I'll keep edging up.

[1989toddm]

I picked up two bottles, a reloading Manuel, and a box of primers today for $25. I'm gonna try it in my 45 colt for plinking loads.

Post results please, I picked up a bottle the other day and would like to try it in 44 mag.

[Bullshop Junior]

So far it has been working great. 5gn with a 240gn bullet will put them all in one ragged hole at 50 yards from my puma 454 carbine.

[1989toddm]

Sounds promising! I'm gonna try for the 200 or 214 gr mold but should be similar.

[FergusonTO35]

I love how Titewad is bulky and meters great. It fills the case well and burns clean. Great powder, currently shooting it in my Kel-Tec PF9 with the Lee 356-95-RF. Antiquus, what kind of .32 pistol are you using?

[Antiquus]

An FEG AP-7.65. This pistol is normally seen as a PA-63 in 9mm Mak, so it's just rebarreled using the same barrel OD. Pretty strong, so I'm a little fearless using it. The large extractor cutout gives plenty of notice about pressures.

[FergusonTO35]

Nice gun!

[tazman]

Just finished loading some full wadcutters in 38 special with 3.3 grains of Titewad. I plan to take them to the range soon and see how they shoot.
I don't know that I would recommend this load for a 38 special. I am shooting it in a 357 mag so I have no worries about pressure.

[aviator41]

I'm running it in my 38 rounds for cowboy action. 2.2grs behind a 125gr RNFP.

Plan on using the same load with a 105gr to even milder loads.

It's fairly clean burning and you can make it go a long way.

[bangerjim]

I purchased Tight Wad instead of tight group. Was not going to use in the flower beds so started with 2.2 grain in .38 and ended up loading a lot of it in .38 only. 2.3 to 2.4 grains in .38 148 grain wad cutter was fine. start with 2.0 to 2.2 and work up from there. Meters well. Have a RCBS Little Dandy with bushings 1 to 10. Don't throw it away!!


Remember............modern nitrocellulose gun powders we use do NOT make fertilizer.

Black powder (salt peter/sulfur/charcoal) does.

If anyone has nitro powder they are using for the garden.....send it to me! I will make fireworks out of it!

And I use TiteWad when I run out of my standards for plinking. VERY fast powder.

banger

[tazman]

The wadcutters I loaded shot great. Very accurate and very clean.
I seat my wadcutters out a bit longer than normal. I crimp in the first lube groove instead of the crimp groove for a longer OAL.
I also shoot them in a 357 mag so the load I use is quite safe in my revolver.

[bangerjim]

Their powder website now lists loads for hand guns using TiteWad. I do not believe it did before they updated it recently.

For light plinking loads, it works great!

banger

[tazman]

They only have one load listed on the site for 9mm and none at all for 38 special.
I have just been limiting it to .3 grains less than Titegroup for the same weight boolit.
It has worked well so far.

[Antiquus]

OK here's where I'm at with Titewad curently. I really agree this is some clean burning stuff.

3.2gr behind a 148gr HBWC and a 4" .38spl barrel - 786fps 5 shot string had ~40fps range so pretty fair. 3.5gr is about the same speed, so I'm thinking this is about a limit for .38spl, I may do a little more investigation but it seems 3.2 or a little less is a nice target round.

Previously I had gotten 2.4gr in .32acp to run about 950fps with a 71gr FMJ bullet. I'm trying to get to the Euro police round at 185ft/lbs. SAAMI lists design pressure at 20.5kpsi, and CIP (the Euros) lists it at 23.2kPSI. It seems to get there I should be running about 1080 fps. I tried a load at 2.7gr and the average was 1128fps - too hot, but the FEG had no problem with it and the brass was barely distorted (due to a very large extractor cutout in my chamber). I did try a 3.0 loading, which also ran in the gun well, only threw the brass about 10', and didn't distort the cases nearly as badly as the Unique loads I had tried earlier. But at 226ft/lbs, it's nothing I am ever going to repeat.

Nest step is zeroing in on the right load,but it's pretty amazing how with .3 difference it went over 150fps faster, loading in these tiny case volumes is ...interesting. I also am trying some cast bullets from Hunter's Supply in the classic 76gr weight, probably start those at 2.4gr.

Also tried Titewad in a .380, I have another FEG that's identical in .380 with a 4" barrel. A little research showed a .380 and the .32acp have very close useable powder volumes, and in this case (love this stuff) the SAAMI design pressure is 21.kpsi and the CIP is 19.2kpsi. Hmm... OK load it up same as the .32and see what goes on.

2.7gr gave 100gr plated about 983fps, and 3.0gr was exactly the same. So 2.7 would seem to be a limit and I'm going work around this level a bit to see what works. The gun fired and felt fine with both loads and there was no case distortion. I might retry this, as the 2.7 loads were hot to the touch due to sun, and the 3.0 loads were not.

Finally (you guys tired yet?) I tried out a couple of loads in .32H&R Mag. My method here was a little different, I'm still looking for pressure spikes in this powder and I decided 3.1gr with a wadcutter loaded at 1.25"OAL would be my first, then a small bump to 3.2gr and 1.20" then 3.3gr and 1.15". Well, large change from 1.25" to 1.20" velocity went from 892fps to 981fps, then at 1.15" went to 894fps. So there's point where it changes I think, but that point is a fairly low pressure.

[tazman]

Antiquus---Your 38 special wadcutter load(3.2gr titewad) chronoed almost identical to mine with the same extreme spreads. Nice to have confirmation.
I also ran it in 9mm with a 95gr boolit, but don't have any of your other calibers to compare.

[sargenv]

I recently was curious with this powder in the 38 super.. I tried a 130 gr RN (the Lee 125-2R) with the Carnauba red lube in the single groove and found that it was very consistent.. Pistol used was a S&W 627 - 8 shot with a 5.5" barrel.

I used two loads.. 3.6 and 3.8 gr.

Components used:

New Starline 38 Super brass
Federal #100 Small Pistol Primers
130 gr LRN sized .358"

3.6 gr yielded:

Hi - 1046
Lo - 1022
Avg - 1032
ES - 24
SD - 8

3.8 yielded

Hi - 1076
Lo - 1052
Avg - 1061
ES - 24
SD - 8

Yeah.. I was sort of surprised to see the same ES and SD with different charges.. No pressure signs to speak of.. This produced power factors of 134 and almost 139.. so I picked the perfect load for USPSA Revolver minor right out of the gate.. I could load heavier or even a little lighter but really do not need to.. Just for grins I loaded up a batch with 3.5 gr and have yet to test those.. but hopefully soon. Next step is checking accuracy.

[Antiquus]

This powder is amazingly clean, even when it smokes a bit at low pressures, I get nothing like the soot Bullseye or Unique put out, better than 231 too.

My final loads for this is right where I wanted to be. 2.2gr of Titewad gives me 1038fps average and a 30fps spread using a 76gr cast LFN bullet from Hunters Supply. Damn near identical to the $1.30/round Buffalo Bore stuff, same bullet. According to what I can find, the old Euro police round was 185ft/lbs and a 77gr cast bullet so woot. Powley says this is 23.4kCUP, which the CIP limit was 23.2kpsi, direct hit there. SAMMI's data is 20.5kpsi, but my guns (added a CZ70) are built to the CIP standard.

My other load which checks a little lighter for pressure is 2.4gr of Titewad behind a 60gr Hornaday JHP, at 1127fps, fast enough so the bullet should open. Of the two, the cast bullet is my favorite, just great accuracy and scoots pretty well with a light load.

I am working on a 32H&R load also, currently I have one running 1118fps with the 76gr LFN at 211ft/lbs using 3.6gr of Titewad. It's already at a level I may just check it for pressure and stop, it shoots well, but I haven't pushed it beyond 25 yards yet.

I'm going to end up buying a .25acp gun in some moment of weakness I just know it. Just to work up another load with this stuff.

[sargenv]

I tried some Titewad the other day with 38 super and .356 heavy plated x-treme 147 gr bullets (which weighed out on average to 145 gr).

I used all new Starline brass and Federal #100 Small pistol primers. These were seated to 1.298" and fired in a 627 S&W revolver. These were 8 shot averages.

2.8 gr had an avg vel of 775 fps
3.0gr had an avg vel of 805 fps
3.2 gr had an avg vel of 847 fps
3.4 gr had an avg vel of 866 fps and the primers were showing some flattening.. so I'm going to say this was an upper limit in my revolver. Cases were starting to be hard to extract too.. If I do any more work with the 38 super, I'll publish what I have. At the moment I'm looking for a good minor load with the 145 RN's and was curious if Titewad was it.. and as I suspected, it was a tad too fast for what I wanted to do with it.

[FergusonTO35]

Antiquus, I see you are a fan of Titewad in .32 Auto like I am. I love 2.1 grains under a 76 grain boolit at .945 in my Kel-Tec. Clocks a very consistent 900 fps and I can shoot it well.

[Antiquus]

How's the recoil compare to factory ammo? I was wondering about the P-32 and how it would handle this hotter ammo.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

time to bring back this thread as it seems to be about the only tightwad thread I can find , I am playing around looking for a 40 S&W minor load

I have been using 2.5gr in my 38spl load under a 120gr lee TC

I tried 2.5 it cycled the slide and was very mild
but I wanted just a bit more from it , and tried 2.7 , I think I have found the load for now until I can get a chronograph to shoot it over

has anyone else tried TightWad in 40

[tazman]

What weight boolit are you loading in the 40?
This is not a powder combination I have tested.
From the data I can find, I think 4.0 grains would be a max load under a 180 grain boolit. Obviously, you need to start low and work up.

[xvigauge]

Glad to see this thread. I have several pounds of Titewad from my skeet shooting days. Does anyone know if it can be used in reduced loads in center fire rifles with cast boolits? Can I use data for Bullseye or Red Dot? Some rifles I load for include .222, 6 mm, 257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 7x57, 8x57, .300 Savage, and .35 Remington.
xvigauge

[tazman]

I believe I saw mention of that usage a few weeks ago on this site but can't remember where.
I did find a couple of links you might be able to use.
They include some data.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?258816-Titewad-load-for-150gr-30-30
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?266602-Follow-up-on-my-TiteWAD-loads-for-30-30

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I am running the lee 401-175tc but I think it drops more like 180gr I tried the 2.5 and it was very mild , I looked at the listed loads and seeing 3.0gr was a starting load for 9mm figured it would be good , the primmer was a little flatter than I like so I backed down to 2.7 and think that is about it


I also load the 30-30 at 2.5gr tight wad with the tl314-90swc sized to .311

[xvigauge]

Thank for the links tazman. This info can get me started.
xvigauge

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

2.7gr titewad under a lee 356-120tc in 38spl feels almost exactly like factory 130 gr loads

no accuracy test yet but It seemed like a good load

I was ammazed how much different it felt than the 2.5gr load that is a real powder puff load

2.7gr has almost no smoke , while the 2.5 had smoke so the .2gr must be getting it into optimum burn pressure.

[tazman]

2.7gr titewad under a lee 356-120tc in 38spl feels almost exactly like factory 130 gr loads

no accuracy test yet but It seemed like a good load

I was ammazed how much different it felt than the 2.5gr load that is a real powder puff load

2.7gr has almost no smoke , while the 2.5 had smoke so the .2gr must be getting it into optimum burn pressure.

I think that sounds right.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

Tazman where did you find that data ?

[tazman]

Tazman where did you find that data ?

Sorry. I made a mistake on the data. I was thinking of something else and posted in the wrong thread.
I edited the other post to correct my mistake.

[rsrocket1]

One more bump to update this thread
M&P40 4.25" barrel
Bullet: Lee 401-175-TC Powder Coated, sized to 0.401", weighs 180g
Seated to 1.135" COL
2.5g Titewad
Ave MV =708 fps
StDev = 9.4 fps
Very light recoil, cases fly about 6" up. Very similar to a 9mm recoil

3.0g Titewad
Ave MV = 792 fps
StDev = 6.2 fps <- higher pressure, better consistency

3.5g Titewad
Ave MV = 848 fps
StDev = 4.3 fps

Quickload says 3.5g generates 25.8k psi which is 75% SAAMI Max.
I have no reason to go above this because I have powders better suited for higher velocity loads like Unique and PP.
I like low to mid 900 fps loads for 40 S&W practice so I only use fast powders like Clays, Titewad and Red Dot for low velocity/low recoil loads.

[DerekP Houston]

Thanks for the updated info RSrocket! I've got the same 40, hadn't started loading for it yet, but its great to know what works.

[rsrocket1]

I have a 9mm barrel for the M&P 40 and when I load both 40 and 9 to the same power factor (bullet weight x velocity), the recoil is the same with all other parts equal (9mm mag too). The 3g Titewad load with a 180g bullet feels just like my 120g 9mm bullet at 1100 fps.

[GhostHawk]

TY rsrocket1 I'll be trying your data with my Hipoint carbine in .40sw. I have the same 175 tl mold, use Bens Liquid Lube with no complaints on everything I've tried it on.

I did buy a pound of titewad and tried it in my .45acp. It does use a bit less than Red Dot, for similar speeds, but I'm sitting on 17 lbs of Red Dot, so I'll use up the titewad and revert back.

Always nice to have options.

[Antiquus]

Quickload says 3.5g generates 25.8k psi which is 75% SAAMI Max.
I have no reason to go above this because I have powders better suited for higher velocity loads like Unique and PP.
I like low to mid 900 fps loads for 40 S&W practice so I only use fast powders like Clays, Titewad and Red Dot for low velocity/low recoil loads.

Whoa, where'd you get Quickload data for Titewad? Mind sharing that?

[rsrocket1]

I use Clays data. Yes, it's not the same powder. I load 12 gauge shotgun also and have looked at a lot of load data for both Clays and Titewad and they are so close that I've found that they can be treated as essentially the same powder when measured out by weight, not volume. In fact, several years ago I accidentally emptied my shotshell powder hopper full of Titewad into my Clays bottle and wound up with a mixture of the two powders. I ran a whole bunch of pistol (45, 40 and 38 Special) and shotgun loads with the new powder using both the Clays data and the Titewad data and found my MV's to be right on. I would never recommend mixing powder or using accidentally mixed powder unless you really knew what you were doing and are willing to risk blowing up a $500 gun to salvage $20 worth of powder, but the scientist in me along with the near certainty of success made me pretty confident that this would work.

I have since tried out many loads with Titewad using Clays data and since I like my load pressures all within the "white zone" of Quickload (<75% SAAMI Max), it's a pretty safe bet. My chrony data shows that the measured Titewad loads are 2-3% above the Quickload predicted Clays calculations compared to chronied Clays loads measuring 1-2% above the predicted Quickload Clays calculations.

[tazman]

Good luck with that. As long as you are running midrange loads you are probably ok.
I just looked at the Hodgdon data site. They list loads for 9mm 124 grain Berry bullet using both clays and titewad. There are substantial differences in the load data for the two powders, both in max loads and velocity. Although they do show pretty much the same velocity for 3.0 grains, the pressures are quite different.

[maxreloader]

Titegroup is to tightwad as Clays is to ClayDot... confusion in advertising if you ask me. I shoout tightgrooup and clays and never tried the other two imposters yet... but will!

[tazman]

Titewad works in 38 special light target loads and in 9mm with the lighter boolits. In particular I use it in 9mm with 95-110 grain boolits with excellent results. Very clean burning in that usage.
Others have said it works well in the 380. I have no experience with that cartridge.

[Antiquus]

I have 100gr. cast going out of a 4" barrel at 985ft/sec with 2.7gr of Titewad behind it. One thing I'm pretty sure about is this powder is so fast that velocities out of shorter barrels are higher than other powders.

[1989toddm]

Bringing this old thread back up. Anyone else done load workup with larger pistol cases? Like 44 mag, 45colt, 357?

[tazman]

This powder would be totally unsuitable for magnum loads.
Light loads only.
Full pressure loads with this powder would only give you little if any more speed than the 38 special or 44 special.

[GhostHawk]

I recently loaded some mild .44 mag loads with Titewad, except they got loaded into .444 marlin brass. 4.6 grains if I remember under 220 grain TC.

Had scope issues at the range, all was fouled up, mounts loose, rings loose. Only shot a few. But they were quiet, very mild recoil and and had an audible THUMP on the far end.

[tazman]

I was looking at data for 45ACP today. I may try some loads of Titewad with my 200 grain boolits and see how it goes.

[1989toddm]

I recently loaded some mild .44 mag loads with Titewad, except they got loaded into .444 marlin brass. 4.6 grains if I remember under 220 grain TC.

Had scope issues at the range, all was fouled up, mounts loose, rings loose. Only shot a few. But they were quiet, very mild recoil and and had an audible THUMP on the far end.

That's interesting, I've been loading 5.0 gr Titewad under 200gr in 44 mag. I didnt imagine it would be useful at all in long straightwall cartridges. I really like this load for target and plinking. I shoot mostly the old discontinued Lee .429-208-WC. Seems pretty accurate, at least for me.

[rsrocket1]

Titewad would be a cheaper alternative to Trail Boss in that it produces good pressures without generating high velocities. The only down side is that it doesn't give you that warm and fuzzy feeling of preventing double charges because it is a very dense powder.

I just picked up an 8 pound jug a couple of weeks ago and am very happy (mostly for shotgun loading)

[Wally]

I've been using TITEWAD powder in the .38 Spl. .44 Spl, .45 ACP, 9mm Luger. 40 S & W & the .45 Colt, with cast bullets. It is fluffier (less dense) than most other powders including Red Dot, but more dense than Trail Boss. IMHO if you are cautious, it is safer tan Bullseye as a small powder charge fills the case more. After charging cases I inspect with a flashlight to check for double charges. IMHO TITEGROUP is one to be very careful with as it is very dense and a safe charge doesn't fill up a case very much (is loading density).

I have found that TITEWAD to be an excellent powder for lighter loads....it meters very precisely; much better than Unique or Red Dot. I have carefully worked up loads and chronographed them; I also keep good records of the statistics when I have used it.


Titewad would be a cheaper alternative to Trail Boss in that it produces good pressures without generating high velocities. The only down side is that it doesn't give you that warm and fuzzy feeling of preventing double charges because it is a very dense powder.

I just picked up an 8 pound jug a couple of weeks ago and am very happy (mostly for shotgun loading)

[mazo kid]

I am very happy to find this thread. About 3 years ago I bought TiteWad (instead of TiteGroup!) and there was very little data for reloading anything but 12 ga. that I could find. And the store would NOT take returns on powder even though it was still factory sealed, can't blame them.