Is it just me............

[Smitty's Retired]

Or does it just seem there are more people who would rather just whine. This is just a general observation from my perspective.

I feel very fortunate in my life so far. I was raised part of my childhood by loving grandparents, because I lost my biological father when I was very young, so my mom was working to help make ends meet. I was raised in the country, a very small farm, with chickens, hogs, goats, a cow, along with raising a a couple of turkeys, some ducks, and occasionally some guineas. We built our own grain storage barn, Chicken Pens, and small barn. All this along with my Grandparents last house was built by my grandfather, two uncles, along with the help of several cousins, including myself. I was eleven at that time and helped put on the shingles, the vinyl flooring, as well as help carry the lumber when they were framing in the house.

Many of my family besides being from the country served in the military, some in WW-II, Korea, and Viet-Nam. My step-dad who came later in my life was also a veteran of the Korean war. Many of my cousins, along with myself joined or were drafted during Viet-Nam. So that was also a part of my life.

Of all the things I learned was, you received by putting work into something. If you run into some bad or hard luck, it did no good to go complaining about it, but you were expected to figure out what it would take to overcome this obstacle, and as another good 'ole boy says, "Get 'er Done." I was also taught to put faith in the good Lord to help you through life. I was also taught that there were many things you could accomplish, if you sought knowledge. Whether it related to fixing leaks, working on your car, repairing the well pump, whatever the case, seek out answers, don't be afraid to ask questions, and most of all, don't expect someone else to always do it for you.

Between the basic foundations I learned at home, what I learned in the military, and throughout my working years of learning to adapt to situations and do things because I couldn't afford to pay someone to do things for me, I've never been afraid to try to accomplish something or search out knowledge on something.

I said all this to lead up to the following. I have three son-in-laws (or is it Sons-in-law?) Two are great. Always trying to expand themselves, and one who has already been through two lay-offs in his lifetime so far, but has always bounced back and overcame that obsticle in his life.

But I have one that is 31 years old who is married to my middle daughter, and he just seems to whine about everything. He's been married to my daughter for 6 years, and has had three different jobs. One he was recently layed off from due to cutbacks. Now, I have to give him credit, he didn't sit on his butt and draw pennies, he did at least find a job. But what I am getting to is, I have never heard him say anything good about any of the jobs he has worked at. They all sucked, everyone he works with are jerks, he whines about the cost of automotive work, (but will not take up my offer when something breaks to come over and I will let him use my tools and I will help and instruct him how to repair it), he complained about making ends meet when my daughter wasn't working, and now that she has a great paying job, he complains about their time together being inhibited by their jobs.

Now, I have set him down and talked with him and tried to show him how lucky he is so far in life. He has been able to keep a job and get new work when the economy is what it is at present. He has two beautiful children that so far have not had any medical problems. Basically he has a lot to be thankful for. But I think I am about to the point to tell him if I hear him whine one more time, I am gonna kick him dead straight in the saddle.

I guess it is just my outdated image that one should pull himself up by his own bootstraps. Because as I look around at a lot of the other youths, he is not alone in his actions.

O.K. Rant over, sorry for the long read, but just had to put my thoughts down. I guess I will fix another cup of coffee now.

[runfiverun]

I heard a speech where hitler used the "pull ourselves up by the bootstraps" line.
he was referring to pulling his country out of the depression.

many boy's are raised by their mothers now day's and whining is their M.O.
good luck changing that without making your daughter bent.

[Love Life]

Wow. That has to be a record in referencing Hitler and Nazi Germany in a post!!

If an Infantryman isn't bXXXXXXg then you better check his pulse.

People gripe. As long as he pays bills and provides for his family then what is the problem? Would you rather he be a stoic bum?

We have a society of males being raised by women due to sky rocketing divorce rates and the court's preferential treatment of the biological mothers. The how and why is pretty much irrelevant. We are at that point.

[runfiverun]

I only made mention of it because I heard some of the same speech repeated in our last potus election.
zoom :lol:

[nicholst55]

If you have one azzhat coworker (or supervisor), then he might really be one. If all of your coworkers and supervisors are azzhats, then it's probably you. That's what I would tell that SIL. But then I'm considered to be insensitive.

[jcwit]

Sounds like whining is being confused with complaining.


whine (hwn, wn)
v. whined, whin·ing, whines

v.intr.
1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.

2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.

Looks like childish is the key word here.

To complain or bixxx is not necessarily whining.

[Taylor]

I remember one time in the 25th,dark night,raining like crazy,and "joe" was whining about being wet and cold.After a while a sgt ask him if he was dry yet.

[btroj]

Love life, this goes way beyond the kind of whining or ******** you heard in the service. I work with people who seem to just plain be unhappy. Negative comments on everything. Everyone is an idiot. Everyone screwed everything up. Nobody is smart enough to get it right. Sadly, those are the people who make the most errors because they are too busy ******** to pay attention to their work!

I have decided that of they want to have a crappy day then who am I to ruin it? Heck, I have been known to pile on and make their day worse, isn't that what they want?

We can go thru life looking at the good things or the negatives. I far prefer to focus on the positives.

[Jailer]

btroj is right on the money. I have one guy that works for me that is always miserable. Complains about everything. Runs to the union with every little thing he's not happy with. He's so miserable he's not satisfied with just sharing his misery, he has to do everything he can to make everyone else miserable too. Burns his *** to no end when I remain positive and even joke about his misery.

Some people no matter what just don't know how to be happy and they complain because it's easy. Actually taking responsibility and doing something to make things better for yourself is hard and a lot of people now days just don't want to have to work at anything, happiness included.

[gray wolf]

A healthy mind can see the glass half full --- when it's half full
and see it half empty when it's in fact half empty.
The problem arises when people live in one single reality, by that I mean they see it as always half empty. Equally as bad is the person who sees everything in the other reality, Everything is fine ( all the time )
All is not fine all the time, and things do not always work themselves out. Sometimes, some kind of action is needed to correct a situation.
Someone who complains about anything and everything has more of a problem than the situation or chain of events they are complaining about.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I blame the leftist media. They weren't always so biased, Their bias seemed to kick into high gear in the 90's helping out ol' Bill. The threwout the Bush administration, they harped on the negative, unlike every before. I think that jaded some people into the complainers like your SIL. Of course they backed off when they got Obummer...but when he didn't deliver enough socialism in the first two years of his first term, the media kicked in again...listen to the news, everything is falling apart, the economy, the globe, the middle east...and they find a way to blame the GOP and the conservative way of thinking.
that's my 2¢

[popper]

You could offer him some of that really stinky cheese to go with his whine.

[Boerrancher]

Any time would take a new command or get a new troops I would tell them, "my door is always open if there is a problem come see me. If you come see me about a problem you had better have some idea as to how it can be fixed, because if you don't then you are just btching, and I don't want to hear it. The quickest way to find your butt being tossed out of my office is to come in here and tell me things are all f'ed up and not be able to tell me specifics and have a corrective corse of action."

Best wishes,

Joe

[41 mag fan]

I blame all the kids anymore who whine about this or that and especially whine because the people down the road have more than they do, on technology and the ease of how money comes and money goes.
When technology kicked in with the computer, cell phones, ect ect, life and working for the things you have in life became easier.
For example....to learn something, you don't go to the library and do research. You get online, plug it into google and there's a plethora of info with minimal reading that teaches you.
Manual labor has become easier with technology, robotics have taken over a lot of jobs.

Corporations and banks and credit card companies have made it easy...too easy to get money. They have in the last 30 yrs changed the mind set of people. Instead of a piece of plastic being your last resort to pay with, it's now your first resort.

With the advent of plastic money, it's easy to flip out of your wallet or purse, pay and buy what you want. It's a lot harder to give them hard earned greenbacks to the cashier.
Checks and greenbacks are now the last resort to use, with checks being almost non existent to many businesses, or accepted.

Then you got a gov't whose moved more to socialism in the last 50 yrs than ever before. Socialism promotes lazy, whiny cry babies. It promotes a society who accepts being regulated up the wazoo and that is dependent upon the gov't to take care of them. Sadly this has happened within this latest generation.

Generation after generation has seen their parents work and have nice things, and they see them for the most part, go into retirement living pretty well off. Now those generations expect to have the same things and better things before they see retirement....and with each passing generation...it gets worse and lower in age, they expect to attain this type of "wealth" or personal gains.

Another thing I blame on why these latest generations whine so much, is our education system.
Our education system...from K1 all the way thru universities and colleges, lean to the left. The left has that concept of getting what you want off the backs of others.

[Love Life]

I don't know 41 Mag Fan. If you use the Cabela's card to it's full potential, then you get all kids of free stuff. I love it.

[41 mag fan]

I don't know 41 Mag Fan. If you use the Cabela's card to it's full potential, then you get all kids of free stuff. I love it.

And pay with interest, if you dont pay it off in full each month.

See the ease of paying with that Cabelas CC... you use it, you get rewards, but if you don't keep it paid to a $0 balance each month, then you start paying interest.

I've got a real bad taste from CC's from 3 yrs ago. It cost us a lot, and our bank was the misleading factor in it all.

[Love Life]

No, no, no. Buy everything you usually buy. Gas, groceries, cigs, snackie cackes, etc. Pay it off in full at the end of the month. In December go get a whole bunch of free stuff with points.

You pay no interest and you get free stuff. Wow. Sounds kind of like welfare...

Takes discipline, but you can put a serious hurting on the credit card companies all while getting free stuff. Suckers...

[41 mag fan]

Ahhh...that a discipline I'd say 95% of the population doesn't have. CC are liable to make you spend more than you make.
My father does the same as you, but it takes discipline. Buy..get home, pay it off when the bill comes in.
It's easy though to make that minimum pymnt, and sometimes things happen that you can't pay off in full each month.
Theres a lot of people who live outside of their means and before you know it, it gets them into trouble, esp with plastic. It's harder to hand a cashier a $100, vs the CC, on a $99 item you bought.
It's a mindset, just like the discipline it takes to use a CC on everything for the rewards, but making sure each month it gets paid in full.

[dtknowles]

No, no, no. Buy everything you usually buy. Gas, groceries, cigs, snackie cackes, etc. Pay it off in full at the end of the month. In December go get a whole bunch of free stuff with points.

You pay no interest and you get free stuff. Wow. Sounds kind of like welfare...

Takes discipline, but you can put a serious hurting on the credit card companies all while getting free stuff. Suckers...

I do this myself but do not imagine it is a free lunch. The Credit Card Companies charge the retailers a few percent for each purchase which the retailers add to the price of their products to cover their costs. If you do not get something back on your credit card purchases then you are leaving money on the table. If you are not using a credit card then you are not even in the game, you are paying the marked up price for the product and subsidizing the people who use credit. If you do not pay your total balance every month you are heading to the poor house and making the credit card companies rich.

Much of the world has advanced to the point where if you are a little slow or dim things can be very hard.

As we get older we are not always as sharp as when we were in our prime and the world continues to get more challenging. There are ways to live simply but they come at a price. The piper must always be paid.

Tim

[Smitty's Retired]

People gripe. As long as he pays bills and provides for his family then what is the problem? Would you rather he be a stoic bum?

We have a society of males being raised by women due to sky rocketing divorce rates and the court's preferential treatment of the biological mothers. The how and why is pretty much irrelevant. We are at that point.

I understand people gripe, believe me when I say this. I was in the Army for four years, the reserve for 16 years, and worked Civil service as a HME Mechanic and made it to supervisor for a total of 38 1/2 years. My problem is, when he walks through the door coming into the house, and I say, "Hey Man, what's going on?" or "Hey, How you doing?" his answer is usually a complaint. The last time he was over (earlier last week) his first comment was "I wish life would stop always trying to find ways to screw me!" He doesn't say "Hey", "Hi", "Hello", "How ya doin', "Sup", "How's it Hangin" or any of the normal greetings, but always a complaint. It's kind of like the little old lady that when you ask "How you been" and she always says "Oh Honey, I just aint' been doing good at all" and proceeds to tell you about every problem, ache, pain, and family problem, every time you ask. You got to love them, but you get to where you don't want to ask.

He has both his parents, so he wasn't raised by just his mom. Heck, he even played football in highschool. I just think he's one of these people who would rather complain about stuff all the time. It's just hard for me to wrap my head around at times, because I wasn't brought up like that.

jcwit, I agree with those definitions, and he has a little of a nazel tone when he does it

[km101]

I think we have more "whiners" today than we used to. Part of it may be that kids are being raised solely by their mothers, but I think that a change in our society is to blame also. Kids (and adults) now hear from many sources that they are "entitled" to everything they want. Or that they "deserve" anything they want. I have noticed many ads on TV and in print that say "Get the "blah, blah, blah" that you/your family deserves now!" Or "you are entitled to a new beginning." We are being bombarded with the idea that everyone "deserves" or is "entitled" to everything!

And it's not just the kids, these ideas are becoming pervasive in our society. And if people don't get what they have been told the are "entitled" to or "deserve", they become whiners because they have been left out or overlooked.

And our society no longer teaches the work ethic and self reliance that Smitty talks about. Everyone seems to want cradle to grave support and someone to "take care" of their needs. The current administration is cashing in on this thinking and using it to sink us deeper into this mindset. Soon we will have the socialist environment that the whiners want if we don't do something about it.

RANT OVER. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.