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Dennis Eugene
08-06-2013, 10:29 PM
Just playing around http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l497/youngmaster357/101_2455_zpsb893c051.jpg (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/youngmaster357/media/101_2455_zpsb893c051.jpg.html)

exdxgxe4life
08-06-2013, 10:32 PM
.41 magnum is a very under appreciated caliber. Those are looking nice. I currently only tumble lube and am quite jealous of your lubing process.

Piedmont
08-06-2013, 11:18 PM
I wonder if it irks Veral to make a Keith mold? He has spent his mold making life claiming his designs are superior to the Keith. So on the one hand it is a repudiation of his work, but on the other hand, the money goes in his bank account!

He makes good molds.

jaydub in wi
08-07-2013, 02:19 AM
He makes good molds.[/QUOTE]
He just made me a beauty of a .410 240wfn for my blackhawk

Tatume
08-07-2013, 07:09 AM
I wonder if it irks Veral to make a Keith mold? He has spent his mold making life claiming his designs are superior to the Keith. So on the one hand it is a repudiation of his work, but on the other hand, the money goes in his bank account!

He makes good molds.

Veral catalogs Keith molds, so it mustn't bother him too much.

http://lbtmoulds.com/moulds.shtml
(At the bottom)

Take care, Tom

44man
08-07-2013, 08:29 AM
I don't like a keith all that well either, they are OK and demand is there. There are some I got exceptional accuracy with over the years.
The .41 is a great gun but I never needed one. A friend has one and I get to shoot it a lot.
The main reason I never bought one was the lack of boolits and weights back then.
Those boolits look fine to me. Good casting job.

41 mag fan
08-07-2013, 09:48 AM
<------- Wouldn't know why I picked this user name when i joined!

The 41 is a very versatile round, that can be pushed into the 44mag area.

cainttype
08-07-2013, 10:52 AM
The 41 Mag has as much going for it as any other caliber available in the pursuit of medium game. Anyone would be well armed in the field packing a quality 41.
Being lucky enough to leave home with almost any caliber sidearm I wish, after 35 years of burning pistol powder behind too much lead to keep track of, I can tell you it's my favorite all-around revolver cartridge... Of course, we don't have any man-killer Kodiaks this close to The Gulf of Mexico (They're not tough enough to handle the mosquitos).

jonp
08-07-2013, 03:42 PM
Ive had 2 Blackhawks in 41 mag and loved them both. Great power to recoil. I found them easier to control than either the 357 or 44 mag. I like my 45colt but the 41mag is pretty darn close. The previous comments ate right, it is nowhere as popular as it should be.

Scharfschuetze
08-07-2013, 08:22 PM
Nice looking bullets Dennis. I've been using an RCBS 210 grain Keith type mould for almost 40 years now and it's still producing nice bullets for my Model 58 S&W. With the .41, I've never felt the need to upscale for general use. I guess if I lived in Alaska I might consider something bigger, but the injured livestock I've had to shoot over the years in the Rocky Mountain States have always gone down lickity split with the .41 and its accuracy has always satisfied.

Cosmiceyes
08-07-2013, 08:45 PM
I have a SAECO #410 in 220 grain for my S&W 657. Not a pretty as a Kieth to me,but it is accurate. I still have a 44 Magnum Ruger Super Blackhawk to trade to anyone who doesn't like their Ruger 41 magnum. It surprised me that Lyman doesn't even make a 41 mold. Only one mold in the 41 mag common producers has a gas check even.

leadman
08-07-2013, 09:23 PM
Lyman still has a swc in their list. I have one and it really is not a good boolit. Nose is very short on it. Lee used to sell a gc'd 41, but now it is plain based.
I shot the Lee 215gr TL today for the first time and it is very accurate. No gas check, coated with the Hi-Tek lube/coating. Got it to 1,204 fps with a clean barrel.

I was looking at the SAAMI specs on the 41 and they list a .410" bullet and a .411" boolit. Most of the handgun cartridges only have a bullet diameter listed. Saeco must not know what they spec is 'cuz they were upset when I told them their mold they cut for me was undersized at .409" to .410" with lino. My older Saeco 220gr TC drops about .412', which I prefer.

I do like the looks of Verals mold. How do they shoot? I don't have one of his molds so maybe this is a first.

fcvan
08-08-2013, 01:39 AM
Dad bought the SAECO 230 Keith style SWC back in the mid 70s. That boolit is almost too long in the S&W M57 and definitely too long in the Marlin 1894. In 1989, I bought the SAECO 415 220 gr TCGC just for the Marlin. It also shoots well in my 8 3/8" M57. Loads that are pleasant in the carbine and the 8 3/8" are much less pleasant in dad's 4". My brother loaded up the 230 Keith for his 10" TC Contender and is too much load for more than 10 shots. After that you develop some serious flinch issues.

I've read a great deal about folks using 240 grain boolits in the 41 with great success. I'm sort of concerned about a heavier boolit and OAL issues like the old SAECO mold. I recently horse traded with another member for a Lee 410-195 SWC which casts at about 205 gr with range scrap. I think the light boolit will be a great plinker but the 220 TCGC is still my go to boolit mold. I have enjoyed smooth feeding in the carbine and great accuracy in both the revolver and the carbine.

GLynn41
08-08-2013, 08:36 AM
I have that Saeco 230 in a 4 cav -- and really like it-- as well as had the Saeco 220 version and a Lyman 410459-- and I have three .41 wildcats- and a couple of .41 6 sixguns--- I have a 255 wlngc and took a 250+ boar they sailed right through -- I am content with the .41 just want a few more--notice my name also :p nice mold Veral does good work