What cartridge do you think this is?

[Just Duke]

What cartridge do you think this is?

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/flutes011b.jpg

[swheeler]

358 win

[**oneshot**]

I'm going with 6mmTCU. Display bullet is different than the loaded rounds.

[Just Duke]

358 win


That's what I was thinking also.

[williamwaco]

Me too.

[MtGun44]

.358 Win or 35 Rem. Hard to tell.

Bill

[Jupiter7]

Not even sure that ammo goes in the gun either. Looks like the ejection port is smaller than the brass. The work on the bolt and bolt handle is gorgeous. 358w is a good guess.

[runfiverun]

looks like 35 rem to me.
the neck looks a tick too long for 358 win.

[303Guy]

It looks like a 358 but the case body and the neck seem a little long. I'd go with 358 Win before 35 Rem but looking at that neck makes me wonder.

[bhn22]

9.3 X 57.

I wanted to be different.

[texassako]

Shoulder looks to big for .35 Rem, it should be itty bitty. If those go in that rifle, how do you eject a loaded round?

[dbosman]

In case anyone cares about the fluted bolt, check out www.kampfeldcustom.com

[Bzcraig]

Like a couple others, I don't think those rounds go with that rifle. It sure was hard to focus on the bullets with that gun porn in the background.

[303Guy]

The 300/223 has a similar profile but with a slightly longer case and a neck in the same proportion as the 358. I thought the 9.3 had too long a body and too short a neck. A 308/222 might match the proportions - couldn't find it to check.

Is the 9x51 a current chambering? That has proportions close to the mystery cartridge.

The 358 has a longer neck than the 35 Remington and both are less than a diameter long. The mystery cartridge seems to have a neck longer than a diameter.

[Whiterabbit]

What cartridge do you think this is?

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/flutes011b.jpg

too long for the gun!

[Stephen Cohen]

Just to be different 308/375

[Lloyd Smale]

id have to agree. Looks like it would barely fit without a bullet even seated in it.
too long for the gun!

[g price]

It looks like 338 Federal to me

[BIGRED]

not a 35 Remmy, neck is too long.
Not a 338 Federal Shoulder is not sharp enough

looks pretty darn close to a .358 Win

[rockrat]

just to be contrary, lets split it between the 358 and the 375-08, and go with a 9.3-08!!

[jonp]

338/378. I know its not belted but no-one has said it yet.
How about a 338/375 ruger

[nanuk]

500 Beltless ASquare Short Magnum

[goste]

.376 steyr, maybe?????

[Bzcraig]

How long will we wait for an answer? I'm not good at waiting.

[Just Duke]

How long will we wait for an answer? I'm not good at waiting.

I have no clue that's why I asked.

[Whiterabbit]

well, figuring a short action ejection port is 2.4 inches and going from there:

The case is about 2.0 inches long, roughly. The bullet is about .343" diameter. Cartridge OAL is a scoche under 2.75" long. That means its either 338 federal or 358 win. The neck is about .343" long too. Which makes it more likely to be 358 win than 338 fed.

Finally, I see spitzers AND round noses in the pic. My guess is a RN is gonna be easier to source in a 358 than a 338.

So I'm betting 358 win.

http://ammoguide.com/gfx/web/308fam338fed.gif

[Just Duke]

The rifle and the loose bullet pictured are only there to give reference to the size of the cartridge in question and not related or applicable to one another.

[10mmShooter]

.358 win

[bikerbeans]

Who cares about a few rounds of ammo, I want that rifle!

BB

[badbob454]

firt thing that came to mind is a 30-30 rimless. or a .30 remington as its called
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd30remington.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.beyond556.com/bboard/showthread.php?4630-40-S-amp-W-and-45-ACP-AR-15/page2&h=521&w=800&sz=47&tbnid=cwIZDoWwjHFizM:&tbnh=80&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=__aI-lUtZ45lywTRBjcguMZZ2wGhU=&docid=wYShvsCqCcCoUM&sa=X&ei=69kBUpz4M--kyAHs24CYAw&ved=0CF4Q9QEwDg&dur=9609

[bandit7.5]

30 rem is shaped like the 30-30 and the Nickle case is no 30-30. Its not a 32.

[303Guy]

Could you give is the measurements so we can identify it? Ammoguide has a cartridge identifier.

78514

[Whiterabbit]

hi 303guy, read up, post 26. It's simple. Find a measurement that looks pretty close. In my case, I used the ejection port of the rifle, PRESUMING it to be a 2.4" short action. Not real data, but the idea was to put me into the ballpark. Resize the picture (even zoom in internet explorer will work for this) so a ruler on the screen shows that port to be about 2.4". Now measure the cartridge.

If you do that, the case is bang on 2" long, the bullet diameter and neck length are the same at .343 (I think that's 11/32 on my ruler). Given the incredible accuracy of my tooling (computer screen and a ruler) that puts us anywhere from .338 cal up to .358 cal. the case is very very likely in the 308 clan given the length. I didnt do this, but measuring the case head diameter via ruler could help confirm that.

But you can take any measurement you want.

[Whiterabbit]

hi 303guy, read up, post 26. It's simple. Find a measurement that looks pretty close. In my case, I used the ejection port of the rifle, PRESUMING it to be a 2.4" short action. Not real data, but the idea was to put me into the ballpark. Resize the picture (even zoom in internet explorer will work for this) so a ruler on the screen shows that port to be about 2.4". Now measure the cartridge.

If you do that, the case is bang on 2" long, the bullet diameter and neck length are the same at .343 (I think that's 11/32 on my ruler). Given the incredible accuracy of my tooling (computer screen and a ruler) that puts us anywhere from .338 cal up to .358 cal. the case is very very likely in the 308 clan given the length. I didnt do this, but measuring the case head diameter via ruler could help confirm that.

But you can take any measurement you want. Nice that they let you add tolerance. A big fat tolerance for those uf us measuring a computer screen with a 16ths ruler!

[cainttype]

In an obvious effort to prove I have too much time on my hands today, I broke out a caliper and scaled the photo using the ejection port as a reference with an approximate length of 2.390 for a Rem short action.
It "appears" to me that the cartridges are 358 Win, trimmed to about 1.950. But the base measuement seems to closer to 30 Remington. The tricky thing is that the spitzer projectile lying on the left next to them looks close to .338 caliber... So I'm thinking a shortened 35-30 Rem is a possibility.
Of course, it could be a .590 Blunderbuss, photo-shopped to occupy the minds of curious tinkers.

[longusmc]

Just looking at the picture that cartridge doesn't apear to fit that beautiful rifle.

I want to say it's a 35 Whelen.

[dondiego]

As the OP stated, the rifle and the spritzer have nothing to do with the cartridges in question.

[Dark Helmet]

WAG is 325 WSM

[303Guy]

Well, one thing is for certain - that's one beautiful rifle!:cool:

I thought the neck looked longer than the diameter but that seems to be an illusion.