Swedish Carbine

[offshore44]

Wandered into a fun store today on my way to pick up some tools. They had a Swedish Mauser carbine in the rack for very little money. Decent wood, worn finish, but other wise in pretty good shape. It had a sticker on the stock for adjusting the sights that I thought was cool. Don't know much of anything about Swedes. Oh, I didn't check the serial numbers out to see if they match, as it would be a shooter not a collector.

Would this make a good addition to the cast bullet bang stick collection?

Edited to add - Carl Gustav (sp?) and dated 1913 IIRC.

[Dutchman]

There were no m/1894 Swedish carbines made in 1913 so what you're describing is something other than a "carbine".

Dutch

[lefty o]

no, but they did convert some 1896 mausers into M38's.

[gnoahhh]

This is an instance wherein we need to see a pic. Sounds suspiciously like a short rifle, not a carbine.

[offshore44]

Like I said, I don't know a lot about the Swedes, but would like to try out a 6.5. I'll see if I can get over there this next week and take some (a) picture. The 1913 date is subject to revision. Thanks for the info though...we shall see what we shall see...

[Dutchman]

no, but they did convert some 1896 mausers into M38's.

The m/38 is not a carbine. We can only take at face value the actual words used and not read more into it than is there and so far there's nothing there that we can use.

Dutch

[Dutchman]

This is an instance wherein we need to see a pic. Sounds suspiciously like a short rifle, not a carbine.

There is no kortgevär made from any Mauser in the Swedish inventory. The m/38 is a gevär, rifle. On the trajectory decals it is abbreviated as G m/38. I often call the m/96 a "long" rifle when there's no such term in Swedish either. Habit. Bad habit. http://dutchman.rebooty.com/traj.html

I've seen the term "carbine" misused in reference to the m/38. www.samcoglobal.com used "carbine" for m/38 for a very long time which is where much of the error originates.

Anymore without a photograph it's not even worthwhile to make an attempt to help someone as so often they're mistaken as to what they're asking about. Disheartening but the nature of the beast. Being thankful for cell phone cameras isn't something I thought I'd be but they sure do serve a purpose.

Dutch

[gnoahhh]

There is no kortgevär made from any Mauser in the Swedish inventory. The m/38 is a gevär, rifle. On the trajectory decals it is abbreviated as G m/38. I often call the m/96 a "long" rifle when there's no such term in Swedish either. Habit. Bad habit. http://dutchman.rebooty.com/traj.html


Dutch

Aha. I stand corrected. I didn't know that. I was in the same habit.

[offshore44]

Well, the oldest daughter got married yesterday, so it's back to stuff today. The rifle in question looks just like the "1932 Carl Gustaf m/94-14 carbine." on Dutchman's site. Nice work, by the way, Dutchman! Haven't got back to get photos and particulars for the rifle. Looking at the bank account, it looks like it isn't going to happen any time soon anyway. Between dies, moulds, brass & the rifle & etc it's not do-able right now. Sure looks like a nice woods walk about rifle though.

[g5m]

I don't know what the price was but most any Swede around here is $250+ and a true carbine is $650+. At least the last one was that I saw, now several years ago.

If the barrel was in decent condition it would be a pleasant rifle/carbine no doubt.

[Multigunner]

There were no m/1894 Swedish carbines made in 1913 so what you're describing is something other than a "carbine".

Dutch

Have you ever run across one of the following?


1894/96 Fortress Carbine: Another variant produced in unknown numbers and unknown years of production. This carbine is very similar to the standard m/1894 except in the manner of sling attachment. This carbine uses a sling attachment identical to the skolskjutningskarbin as the sling swivels are on the bottom of the stock instead of the side. The lower sling swivel is placed much further up the buttstock nearer the triggerguard than the m/1896 rifle.

There were apparently some "weapons officer" carbines hand assembled and finished by weapons officers in training, not run of the mill carbines. I wonder if any of the above might carry a 1913 marked receiver?

Oddest variant I found listed was a gallery target version of the carbine, with rifling twist four times faster than the standard barrels, for use with a low velocity target cartridge.

[Dutchman]

There were apparently some "weapons officer" carbines hand assembled and finished by weapons officers in training, not run of the mill carbines. I wonder if any of the above might carry a 1913 marked receiver?

Since there was no carbine production at all in 1899, 1900, 1902, 1905 and 1908-13 it is not likely there were any weapons officer's carbines produced in those years.

These are all weapons officer's carbines. This first one is about the finest Swedish carbine I've ever seen:
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/officer-carbine1.html
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/officer-carbine2.html
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/officer-carbine3.html
And no I don't know the dates on the receivers...

Fortress carbine 1898 with an anomalous serial number.
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/9496.html

Skolsjutningskarbin (school carbine)
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/skcarb1.html

1894 Swedish Mauser Carbine Modified for the 1867 Remington rolling block sabre bayonet
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/9467.html



Oddest variant I found listed was a gallery target version of the carbine, with rifling twist four times faster than the standard barrels, for use with a low velocity target cartridge.

Called a kammercarbin.
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/kamkar.html

Dutch
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/index.html