Help removing cleaning brush stuck in muzzleloader

[quillgordo]

My 32 Cal Crocket Rifle has the patch wrapped brass cleaning jag stuck in the breech. Broke right off of the thread stud. Short of taking off the breech plug, does anyone have an idea? I tried compressed air from my air compressor, and a light wire coathanger. UUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!

[JohnFM]

You might be able to get hold of it with a patch worm.
Or if it's a percussion, pull the nipple and dribble some powder into the flash channel and from there into the chamber and shoot it out.
I finally got one out with a worm once, but it didn't have a patch on it and there was nothing for the powder to push against when it fired.

[dondiego]

I have removed the nipple and trickled in a little 3F or 4F, replace nipple, add cap and fire. It sometimes works. Your subject line mentions a brush though and that is different.

[High Desert Hunter]

I did the same thing with a cleaning patch, plastic piece of junk broke at the threads. I ended up trickling a small charge of powder through the flash hole to dislodge it, I tried everything else to include a fishing hook on steel leader, the powder worked.

[rexherring]

If the powder method doesn't work you may have to remove the breach plug and push it through.

[JohnFM]

Removing the breech plug from a muzzle loader is not a project to be taken lightly.

[Ajax]

find a piece of pvc or brass pipe just smaller than the barrel and it will slide over the brush then just pull them out.

Andy

[stubert]

Get a peice of copper tubing that will just fit inside the barrel, slide it all the way down OVER the brush, then pull them both out.

[Janoosh]

+1. Thanks Ajax. I never thought about that. I struggled to get a stuck brush/patch combo out of my Renegade. I used the powder trickle method. I'm gonna have to write this one down.

[JohnFM]

Yeah, a piece of tubing that'll push down over the brush should be a perfect tool.

[Junior1942]

The exact same thing happened with my 32 Crockett Rifle. It took maybe three tries with powder trickled under the nipple, and out the brush blew.

[fouronesix]

Yep, time and again a brush is run down a ML bore, it gets stuck then broken off. :shock: Oh well. The most straight forward method is to do as many others have suggested. Trickle some FFF or FFFF down the flash channel. Tap the barrel as you pour and you should be able to get enough in. Don't worry about over charging, just get enough in. Fire it out.

[aspangler]

If you can find someone who has one, try the co2 unloaders. I have one and it has blown many stuck patched jag etc out of the barrel. I let a gunsmith friend use mine when one came in the shop. Took about three seconds start to finish to get it out. Found mine on Ebay for 25. GOOD investment.

[bob208]

shooting it out is the best way.

if you have to unbreach it.i live between carlisle and gettysburg. i have the tools yes it takes special tools not a bench vise and a adj. wrench like i have seen many try to use.

[Squeeze]

Ive heard of people with a really bad stuck ball/brush/jag in a caplock remove the nipple, and thread in a auto grease fitting, then just pump the barrel full of grease till it pops out the other end. theyve all said cleaning out the grease was easy after and it works fine.

[dondiego]

Brush, jag...............both?????

[Junior1942]

Yeah, a piece of tubing that'll push down over the brush should be a perfect tool.Probably not. The Crockett Rifle has a patent breech which means the brush is probably stuck in the smaller-diameter powder chamber.

[45 Bravo]

I buy used muzzle loaders, and clean guns before hunting season for hunters(some people are just too lazy) and of the ones I get, 3 out of 5 muzzleloaders are loaded, and I use the grease fitting through the nipple method to unload them.

If the tube method doesnt work, and Since it has a patch on it, and IF it is stuck in the patent breach, the grease SHOULD force it out.

Good luck.

45 Bravo

[Mk42gunner]

I will add one thing. If you try to shoot it out, make sure you reseat the jag after each and every firing attempt. Can you say bore obstruction?

Hopefully it will only take one try.

Robert

[Boerrancher]

The only thing I ever got stuck in my Crockett was the rod with a patched jag on it while cleaning. I pulled the nipple and flushed the chamber with some Heat gasoline treatment to dry up the water and worked 10 grains of fffg into the breach. I was surprised at how far the rod went. The powder method will work well if the bore around the breach area is dry. If it is not and your powder draws moisture you just have a bigger mess to contend with.

Best wishes

Joe

[w5pv]

A small packing hook may do the job,the biggest problem that I see with the packing hook is getting it down to the brush.The handle on a amall hook will be about 8'' long and you may have to silver solder an extension on to it.May pull the nipple out and take helliarc welding rod and push it from the breech end,and I don't know doodle squat about muzzel loaders.