35x30-30 or 38-55 ?

[Prodigal Son]

I have ended up with a very nice, but used, Canadian Centennial M 94 in 30-30 Win. I have spoke with Jes re-boring and he said he can do it asap. Just don't know which cartridge I want it bored to. I have a 38-55 Win. and a 35 Remington, might want to go for the 38-55 just so I don't have to carry the Ledgendary Fronteirsman in the woods and in inclement weather? I never cared for a 30-30 Win., "Not that there's anything wrong with that". If it were you what would you do?

[gwpercle]

I have always thought a 35X30-30 would be a nifty cast boolit rifle. 30-30 brass is very easy to come by and the rifle conversion would be easy. You already have a 38-55 , this gives you a good excuse to try something new and different.

Gary

[357maximum]

After handling/firing/playing with a Glenfield/Marlin in 35-30/30 owned by a fellow member of this site........ I would go that route....in a word..."AWESOME" Jes did the work on that one and he does a dandy job.

[DeanWinchester]

Where would one get dies and data if so inclined to do a 35-30/30

[marshall623]

Would that be like a 357 Herrett but longer ? and in a lever gun would be a killing machine

[Artful]

First question is do you have 35 caliber mold's? You already have molds for 38-55 for sure so I'd lean that way until I find out if you have some nice flat point molds in 35 caliber.

[Cosmiceyes]

There is also a .32 Special which comes from the 30-30 all dies are still made..32-40 is a famous target cartridge. "BUT" I like this new idea of a 35-30.That's something I didn't have in my brains library.Could you use a 444 case necked down to 358 in one?

[Outpost75]

Ed Harris had an article on the. 35/.30-30 Marquart in the CBA Fouling Shot magazine about a year ago. He had an 1894 Winchester relined by John Taylor in 16" twist using an LBT. 360-255FN plainbased bullet cast soft, using 15.4 grains of #2400 for1384 fps or 8.4 of Bullseye to approximate .38-55 Winchester payloadand velocity.

[OverMax]

Not much to choose from. Either 35 /30-30 or the 38-55. I'd pop for the 35/ 30-30. But if Jes can do a 25-35. That would be my first choice if I already owned a 35-Rem & a 38-55.

O/M

[Lefty SRH]

I like the idea of the 35-30/30 but I'm a big 35 Remmy fan. Where do you even get dies for a 35-30/30?

[JSH]

C-H for dies

[Prodigal Son]

I have 3 boolit molds for the 358, as I forgot to mention, I have a Ruger m77 tang safety in 358 Win. too. It's just not a lever gun. I see my taste in firearms seems to be changing, the older I get the more fine tuned of rifles and shotguns I find appeal to me.

[Nobade]

I have both. Dies for the 38-55 are easier, but I normally neck size the 35X30-30 with a 357 mag pistol die. I haven't tried it, but you might be able to use a 35 Herret die set adjusted properly. If I ever have to size the body I use a 38-55 full length die. Both the cartridges work really well, but if you have molds for 35 caliber you might want to go that way. The capacity of the 35 is exactly the same as a 35 Remington (fired in my chamber) so it does the same thing, just is better if you want to fire light loads due to the rim. Uses a bit less lead too if that matters.

-Nobade

[Piedmont]

The Canadian Centennial has a fairly heavy barrel so I would go .38-55. If it were a thin barrel, like most, I would tend toward .35 just to keep it from getting too thin.

[northmn]

I kinda liked the idea of a 25-35. Otherwise I would go with the 38-55.

DP

[lovedogs]

Let's see if I can mix up your thinking a little. A few years ago I had an interesting one. A gunsmith friend of mine rechambered a Contender barrel to .35/.375 KAP. That's a .375 Winchester necked to .35 caliber. It was like having a .35 Remington on steroids with a rimmed case. It shot bullets up to 200 gr. wonderfully well. I had no desire to try heavier bullets in it as it was a handful already and was good on game. It took six elk, one shot apiece. The .375 Win. is very close to the .38-55 but stouter so I'd think that'd make a dandy lever rifle.

[izzyjoe]

flip a coin, six of one, half a dozen the other. they'll both kill deer just as dead as a 30-30!

[helice]

I too have toyed with the idea of the 35-30. The great benifit of the case is the long neck. That long neck allows a fellow to seat pretty long boolits and thus you can shoot slugs a lot heavier than the 35 Rem while keeping the boolit in the neck and the lube from the powder. I have heard nothing but praise for JES and his 35 caliber work. Your centenial would make a great 35. What ever you do - please send us pictures.

[Dan Cash]

I will sell you my as new centenial and you can make one of each!

[williamwaco]

I would go for the .35-30 because there are about a zillion different bullet styles for it.

[Cosmiceyes]

Let's see if I can mix up your thinking a little. A few years ago I had an interesting one. A gunsmith friend of mine rechambered a Contender barrel to .35/.375 KAP. That's a .375 Winchester necked to .35 caliber. It was like having a .35 Remington on steroids with a rimmed case. It shot bullets up to 200 gr. wonderfully well. I had no desire to try heavier bullets in it as it was a handful already and was good on game. It took six elk, one shot apiece. The .375 Win. is very close to the .38-55 but stouter so I'd think that'd make a dandy lever rifle.

Now that is a dandy cartridge!

[smkummer]

I was just shooting my plain old pre-64 94 (1962) in 30-30. 10.4 grains unique and Lyman cast 170 gas check at about 1500 FPS. This load is 1. accurate 2. cheap 3. easy to make 4. brass and dies are everywhere 5. fun 6. mild recoil that anyone can shoot. Do I have to continue? If a cartridge is easy and common, why do some think its boring? Sorry but maybe its just me that doesn't want a perfectly good bore re-done. A factory 30-30 with a 170 grain bullet going out at 2240 FPS really has some smack. OK, I said my piece. For maybe a little more money then a re-bore, find a 35 Rem. Marlin 336.

[376Steyr]

If you get a 35/30-30 you won't have your buddies bumming ammo off you at the range. Plus when you wear the bore out (in a hundred years) you can get it bored to 38-55 and start over.

[UBER7MM]

How about a 32 Special or 32-40 with a tight twist, say 1:9-9.5, then use heavy 8mm boolits with a large melplate sized down accordingly?

You could then go to 35-30 and then 38-55 as rifling wears.

Certainly be a one of a kind.

Enjoy,

[TXGunNut]

I'd go with 38-55 if you have a good mould in that caliber, I find venturing into new-to-me cartridges gets a little expensive.