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seagiant
07-24-2013, 12:29 PM
Hi,
Looking for the latest info on the LEE 1 oz. slug. Casting and loading for a 12 ga. smoothbore as I am building a HD shotgun and want to shoot it!

SuperBlazingSabots
07-24-2013, 02:40 PM
Greetings Seagiant, sorry to disappoint you, Lee 1oz slug in wad is by no chance a HD load, you'll be better of loading #4 Buckshot for that.

Want to go after Hogs & Deer hunting then its first time to do some home work, like check your barrel ID for dimentions and if you have any choke on the barrel etc, report back! !

By the way I prefer the 7/8 oz version at MidSouth Shooter's for 18 plus change.

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seagiant
07-24-2013, 03:14 PM
Hi,
Thanks Gentlemen! I have loaded birdshot for years but never slugs or buck. To clear somrthing up,I would never use handloaded ammo in a HD weapon no matter what it is. This would be for legal as well as dependable reasons always!

I measured my muzzle it has no screw in chokes and with my quick gauge it measures CYL. with my hole gauge and a mic. it measures .730 My intention on loading some slugs were for practice only and a chance to actually use my HD shotgun at the range. I also will get into buckshot reloading for the same reason and have a Pacific 266 ready to go! Thanks again!

OnHoPr
07-24-2013, 03:14 PM
What's HD shooting about 50 ft at most unless you live in a mansion, don't you think buckshot would be more appropriate.

SuperBlazingSabots
07-24-2013, 03:51 PM
Greetings Seagiant,
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/Fitinwadandbarrel_zpsdc595415.jpg (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/Dantebeowulf/media/Fitinwadandbarrel_zpsdc595415.jpg.html)

Now that we have your information, I see you will be better off with
1. Win. AA wads as the best.
2. Fereral Purple 12S-3 your second best.

Now that you know what wad to use, your next challenge will be the powder selection knowing you cant alter the wad.

Don't forget, you need two nitro card in wad below the slug like this:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/LeeDriveKeysluginwadcopy.jpg (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/Dantebeowulf/media/LeeDriveKeysluginwadcopy.jpg.html)
you want your slug to stick out like in the picture on the right to help open your fold crimp without mangling the wad petals as they are trailing behind ! ! !

Watch out for not all loads that come with the Lee mold are kosher or even good for health.
Specially HS-6, Blue Dot and Herco as being too HOT ! ! !

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seagiant
07-24-2013, 04:04 PM
Hi,
OnHopr,you need to READ post #4 again!

Ajay,
Thank you very much for the info! So if I used LEE's 1 oz slug I could use WW AA12 wad w/nitro cards, with a Win AA12 hull and Clays or Red Dot powder?

SuperBlazingSabots
07-24-2013, 04:50 PM
Hello Seagiant, do not make the mistake of buying imitation wads, made of cheap plastic, only the original's that are time tested and dependable.

A lot of effort goes into developing a accurate slug load, sorry no compromises here!

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seagiant
07-24-2013, 05:02 PM
Hi,
Ajay thanks for the info! I see that I can use the Lyman sabot slug with the right wad! I saved your nice layout and it will help me when I start my own research!

Hogtamer
07-24-2013, 05:10 PM
I had better results with the 7/8 lee slugs for accuracy & they still pack a big wallop.

SuperBlazingSabots
07-24-2013, 05:17 PM
Hello Seagiant, Clays or Red Dot are not the powder's of choice,
Blue Dot, Universal, Herco, HS-6, Longshot, 4756 and A.Steel will do more justice for a cleaner harvest.
Here is yet another chart to show which powder's occupy how much hull space in a straight walled hull:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/NewFinalPowderHullspace.jpg (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/Dantebeowulf/media/NewFinalPowderHullspace.jpg.html)

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OnHoPr
07-24-2013, 08:32 PM
Look at the times on post 4 and 5 seagiant. What would be the legal and dependability issues? The lee would be fine to load for HD sport shooting and keep the cost down and simple and accurate enough for that type of shooting.

seagiant
07-24-2013, 09:32 PM
Look at the times on post 4 and 5 seagiant. What would be the legal and dependability issues? The lee would be fine to load for HD sport shooting and keep the cost down and simple and accurate enough for that type of shooting.

Hi,
The legal issues would be shooting someone with ammo you made yourself!!! A DA would love that! The other issue to me is reliability of factory ammo over handloads; of course the legal issue trumps all!

Of course this is about using handloads for HD,not for play at the range!

seagiant
07-24-2013, 09:39 PM
Hi Ajay,
So I can use the Lyman sabot slug with a purple wad, win AA hulls and BD powder (which I have) Just trying to come up with a starting point. I hear the LEE mold is not the best and might go to the better quality Lyman! Thanks!

mac60
07-24-2013, 10:02 PM
It may not be the best, but for $20 it'll get you in the game. I cast the Lee 1 oz. slug from soww (air cooled) and load them in a Win. AA HS hull over 30.0 gr. Herco using a Claybuster replacement for the WAA12R wad with a 20 ga. .125" nitro card in the wad under the slug. It crimps perfectly and works fine for me. I shoot them through a Rem. 870 express smoothbore with an IC choke. They're not punishing to shoot and out to 50 yds. or so are accurate enough to hunt deer or pigs with.

seagiant
07-24-2013, 10:24 PM
Hi,
Thanks Mac,no problem with the LEE slug sticking to the pin with the WW lead?

mac60
07-24-2013, 10:41 PM
Seagiant - I don't have any problems with the mould releasing the slug (they drop right out). One thing I discovered quickly is the bottom portion of the pin below the cavity (the part that aligns the mould halves) has to be lubed really well or the mould is hard to close.

longbow
07-25-2013, 12:22 AM
Ajay:

You say you prefer the Lee 7/8 oz... why is that?

I would figure the 1 oz. would pack more punch and it has more bearing surface and longer skirt for stability (maybe more important for us smoothbore shooters). Having said that, I have not shot any Lee 7/8 oz. slugs so have no personal experience with their performance.

Just curious.

Longbow

jmort
07-25-2013, 12:39 AM
I'm thinking the 7/8 is faster and less harsh on the shoulder.

HighHook
07-25-2013, 01:35 AM
For some UN-foreknown reason for me the 7/8 lee has been more accurate.

OnHoPr
07-25-2013, 03:38 AM
Ajay:

You say you prefer the Lee 7/8 oz... why is that?

I would figure the 1 oz. would pack more punch and it has more bearing surface and longer skirt for stability (maybe more important for us smoothbore shooters). Having said that, I have not shot any Lee 7/8 oz. slugs so have no personal experience with their performance.

Just curious.

Longbow

I thought I saw a pic of both Lee slugs the other day side by side. The 7/8 oz was shorter obviously. But has anybody measured the diameter at the bottom of the 7/8 oz or actually find the taper difference. My Lee 1oz is about .687 on the front larger diameter and .666 on the base end which leads to about a .020 narrower base end or .010 taper on the radius per side. If the 7/8 oz is less than that it won't wobble as much going down the barrel with slightly canted wad columns, (with a rifled it would wobble, with a smooth it would just cant). Just a thought.

So if you had to use HD on an intruder in your home there are laws against you own home brews. Never heard of that one before. Where is that cali, ny, chigago, boston, or toronto.

Hogtamer
07-25-2013, 06:19 AM
I don't have the measurements, but know the 7/8 is more front-heavy. Lay the 7/8 slug on it's side and immediately stands on it's nose. I assume that's the reason I have gotten better accuracy with it vs 1 oz. I would like the measurements to if anybody has that handy.

Hogtamer
07-25-2013, 06:47 AM
Went to shed to double check my book....this is my best performer for accuracy to date : fed 2 3/4 hull w/209 primer - 19.8 gr CLAYS- BPI symmetrical OP wad - WAA12R wad w/2 - 20 ga nitro cards- 7/8 lee slug, 8 pt crimp. Yes, thinner skirts on 7/8 slug, good wad after shot, modest recoil. Also, faster but not quite as good accuracy, same as above but 36 gr Longshot. Both out of scoped 870 from rest.

Hogtamer
07-25-2013, 06:59 AM
Great video for comparison of slugs... http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=relmfu&v=WG_WzJrydcA