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magmoose
07-15-2013, 08:59 PM
All

I have a new Springfield 1911 in 45acp and want to cast for it. I am confused on if I can use a LSWC for the Springfield. I have a new HG#68 45 ACP LSWC from MP Molds (got it today) but not sure if it will run in the 1911. I don't want to use it if there is a chance it will not work. BTW, tried some Speer LSWC in Springfield XDs 45acp and they would NOT feed. Don't want to make the same mistake with new mold. I would rather sell it new and get round nose that would almost certainly work.

Please advise

moose

dragon813gt
07-15-2013, 09:02 PM
That clone should work. There is a reason it's as popular as it is. There are exceptions but it feeds in almost every 1911.

pipehand
07-15-2013, 09:18 PM
Magmoose, the speer 200 grain swc's are not the same as a #68 cast. My first 45 ACP loads over 25 years ago were with bulk Speer SWC's, and feeding was not so good in my 1911. I realize you don't have a 1911, but the meplat on the 68 is designed to mimick the point on a roundnose that hits the feedramp and the barrel hood. That's why it has such a good rep in the 1911. If you want to keep your mold a virgin until you are sure your pistol will function with them, I'd suggest getting some commercial 68's and seating them to an overall length of 1.250" with a .470" taper crimp. 5.3 grains of HP-38 has always worked for me, but other powders will too.

jsizemore
07-15-2013, 10:42 PM
On the Swappin and Sellin forum page is The Boolit Exchange. Place an ad to buy some boolits to tryout from somebody that has that exact mold.

magmoose
07-15-2013, 10:58 PM
Thanks so much for your responses. I will try to buy a few to check and hope they work well... The mold is a work of art and I hope I can use it

moose

mroliver77
07-15-2013, 11:39 PM
The #68 was designed for the 1911. If it wont work I will eat it!
J

MtGun44
07-15-2013, 11:47 PM
BELIEVE that a H&G 68 WILL run in a 1911, it is the optimum boolit.

1.250-1.260 LOA, TC as a separate operation to .465-.470 at case mouth. 4.7-4.8 of TG or BE are good
loads, drop to about 3.8-4.0 for more of a target load.

Bill

rsrocket1
07-15-2013, 11:55 PM
I have an old Thompson Auto Ordnance 1911 Parkerized and it loves RN but chokes on SWC's (tried 1000 Bear Creek and 100 Extreme plated) about 2-3 times per magazine. I bought the Lee TL452-230 because I wanted a larger metplat than a round nose plus I've heard conflicting stories about which Lee RN mimics true hardball and which one causes feed problems.

Well, for me this one was a winner. Perfect feed and no sizing needed so long as I seat the edge of the cone to the case mouth. I could seat it longer, but then I'd have to size it and I have no need for any extra velocity.
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fcvan
07-16-2013, 02:35 AM
When I bought my Springfield Armory 1911 (plain Jane, parkerized) in 1987 I bought the Lee 452-228 1R and the 452-200 SWC. Both boolit styles worked flawlessly. When I started casting for 40 S&W, I was using the 401-175 TC. The TC boolit looked and shot so well I bought the 356-120 TC for 9mm. I'm now looking at the 452-230 TC mold for 45.

I don't need another 45 mold, I've got 5 or 6, but the flat nose boolit looks so good in all the other cartridges. I've powder coated quite a few boolit styles but as yet have not done the 200 SWC. I need another 45 mold like a hole in the head but what does need have anything to do with it? What I've really been eyeballing is the HP version of the 452-230 TC mold by Hollowpointmold.com. I don't need it but I want it!

bobthenailer
07-16-2013, 07:15 AM
Ive been using Saecos copy of the HG 68 the 068 for over 25 years it has functioned and is accurate in over 25 45 acp pistols from 6 different makers and two Auto Ordance semi auto rifles. I also have a SA 1911 loaded , and they work perfect.

magmoose
07-16-2013, 10:27 AM
I ALSO HAVE A SA XDs45. DO YOU THING THE TC DESIGN OF THE 68 will run in it???

moose

Jupiter7
07-16-2013, 11:21 AM
My Springfield Armory Range Officer is about 90% with the lee h&g clone. The factory 7 round mags are the worst offender. Gets better with mcormack CMC and colt 8 round mags, follower shape seems to be the culprit along with a nice tight chamber.

RobS
07-16-2013, 11:36 AM
I don't know about the 68 in the XDs as I never could get a SWC to feed worth a hoot in the XD I owned. Do you have the newer XD with the hump on the bottom of the slide rib? http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/153172-xdm45-photos-requested.html (4th post down shows the hump). The newer XD's are suppose to be better able to function with SWC designs. Here is a pic in post 161 of the older XD slide without the hump http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/123419-continuing-mag-problem-part2-w-pics-17.html . The Lee 230g TC will run in the XDs and the 1911. I've run a lot of different designs from SWC's to RN to RNF and also the TC nose profile and the TC is a good one that has worked in every 45 auto I put the design to use. It is also quite accurate as well. Currently I working on a new design that will give me a touch wider meplat yet run in 45 autos and can double up as a lighter 45 cal revolver boolit. We'll see how it works when the mold arrives.

magmoose
07-16-2013, 10:57 PM
ROBS ,,, mine is the new one. Im hoping I can get the TC to run in both 1911 and XDs

moose

RobS
07-16-2013, 11:20 PM
The TC will. Load it so the brass is nearly at the break of the front drive band and the ogive of the boolit (like the picture in post #8) and you should be good even if you have a short throated 45 auto.

magmoose
07-19-2013, 11:25 PM
THANKS ALL

moose