View Full Version : need advice on 45 acp mold
magmoose
07-15-2013, 08:59 PM
All
I have a new Springfield 1911 in 45acp and want to cast for it. I am confused on if I can use a LSWC for the Springfield. I have a new HG#68 45 ACP LSWC from MP Molds (got it today) but not sure if it will run in the 1911. I don't want to use it if there is a chance it will not work. BTW, tried some Speer LSWC in Springfield XDs 45acp and they would NOT feed. Don't want to make the same mistake with new mold. I would rather sell it new and get round nose that would almost certainly work.
Please advise
moose
dragon813gt
07-15-2013, 09:02 PM
That clone should work. There is a reason it's as popular as it is. There are exceptions but it feeds in almost every 1911.
pipehand
07-15-2013, 09:18 PM
Magmoose, the speer 200 grain swc's are not the same as a #68 cast. My first 45 ACP loads over 25 years ago were with bulk Speer SWC's, and feeding was not so good in my 1911. I realize you don't have a 1911, but the meplat on the 68 is designed to mimick the point on a roundnose that hits the feedramp and the barrel hood. That's why it has such a good rep in the 1911. If you want to keep your mold a virgin until you are sure your pistol will function with them, I'd suggest getting some commercial 68's and seating them to an overall length of 1.250" with a .470" taper crimp. 5.3 grains of HP-38 has always worked for me, but other powders will too.
jsizemore
07-15-2013, 10:42 PM
On the Swappin and Sellin forum page is The Boolit Exchange. Place an ad to buy some boolits to tryout from somebody that has that exact mold.
magmoose
07-15-2013, 10:58 PM
Thanks so much for your responses. I will try to buy a few to check and hope they work well... The mold is a work of art and I hope I can use it
moose
mroliver77
07-15-2013, 11:39 PM
The #68 was designed for the 1911. If it wont work I will eat it!
J
MtGun44
07-15-2013, 11:47 PM
BELIEVE that a H&G 68 WILL run in a 1911, it is the optimum boolit.
1.250-1.260 LOA, TC as a separate operation to .465-.470 at case mouth. 4.7-4.8 of TG or BE are good
loads, drop to about 3.8-4.0 for more of a target load.
Bill
rsrocket1
07-15-2013, 11:55 PM
I have an old Thompson Auto Ordnance 1911 Parkerized and it loves RN but chokes on SWC's (tried 1000 Bear Creek and 100 Extreme plated) about 2-3 times per magazine. I bought the Lee TL452-230 because I wanted a larger metplat than a round nose plus I've heard conflicting stories about which Lee RN mimics true hardball and which one causes feed problems.
Well, for me this one was a winner. Perfect feed and no sizing needed so long as I seat the edge of the cone to the case mouth. I could seat it longer, but then I'd have to size it and I have no need for any extra velocity.
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fcvan
07-16-2013, 02:35 AM
When I bought my Springfield Armory 1911 (plain Jane, parkerized) in 1987 I bought the Lee 452-228 1R and the 452-200 SWC. Both boolit styles worked flawlessly. When I started casting for 40 S&W, I was using the 401-175 TC. The TC boolit looked and shot so well I bought the 356-120 TC for 9mm. I'm now looking at the 452-230 TC mold for 45.
I don't need another 45 mold, I've got 5 or 6, but the flat nose boolit looks so good in all the other cartridges. I've powder coated quite a few boolit styles but as yet have not done the 200 SWC. I need another 45 mold like a hole in the head but what does need have anything to do with it? What I've really been eyeballing is the HP version of the 452-230 TC mold by Hollowpointmold.com. I don't need it but I want it!
bobthenailer
07-16-2013, 07:15 AM
Ive been using Saecos copy of the HG 68 the 068 for over 25 years it has functioned and is accurate in over 25 45 acp pistols from 6 different makers and two Auto Ordance semi auto rifles. I also have a SA 1911 loaded , and they work perfect.
magmoose
07-16-2013, 10:27 AM
I ALSO HAVE A SA XDs45. DO YOU THING THE TC DESIGN OF THE 68 will run in it???
moose
Jupiter7
07-16-2013, 11:21 AM
My Springfield Armory Range Officer is about 90% with the lee h&g clone. The factory 7 round mags are the worst offender. Gets better with mcormack CMC and colt 8 round mags, follower shape seems to be the culprit along with a nice tight chamber.
I don't know about the 68 in the XDs as I never could get a SWC to feed worth a hoot in the XD I owned. Do you have the newer XD with the hump on the bottom of the slide rib? http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/153172-xdm45-photos-requested.html (4th post down shows the hump). The newer XD's are suppose to be better able to function with SWC designs. Here is a pic in post 161 of the older XD slide without the hump http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-45acp-discussion-room/123419-continuing-mag-problem-part2-w-pics-17.html . The Lee 230g TC will run in the XDs and the 1911. I've run a lot of different designs from SWC's to RN to RNF and also the TC nose profile and the TC is a good one that has worked in every 45 auto I put the design to use. It is also quite accurate as well. Currently I working on a new design that will give me a touch wider meplat yet run in 45 autos and can double up as a lighter 45 cal revolver boolit. We'll see how it works when the mold arrives.
magmoose
07-16-2013, 10:57 PM
ROBS ,,, mine is the new one. Im hoping I can get the TC to run in both 1911 and XDs
moose
The TC will. Load it so the brass is nearly at the break of the front drive band and the ogive of the boolit (like the picture in post #8) and you should be good even if you have a short throated 45 auto.
magmoose
07-19-2013, 11:25 PM
THANKS ALL
moose
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