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Bigscot
07-11-2013, 09:52 PM
Been loading, casting and shooting for many other calibers for years. I finally got my first 1911, a Ruger SR 1911 back in Dec., and now I am ready to start casting for it. After 6 months I have finally been able to get a set of Dillon .45 acp dies. Anyway, I was wondering what moulds, powders and loads people are liking/using in the .45 acp?

Bigscot

Clay M
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
I have used the RCBS 200 gr semiwadcutter (two groove) with good results for years. I also bought the RCBS 230 hardball mould but have not used it yet.If you are lucky enough to have the powder,HS6,and 231 are good choices.I have used a lot of Unique over the years just because I have a good bit on hand.I have been trying to get an SR1911 Commander but no luck yet.They are always sold as soon as they hit the store.

DougGuy
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
230gr RNFP .451" over 5.0gr W231 here, good middle of the road load, accurate, pleasant. I have a Kahr that is very tight chambered, won't even close on a .452" oh well.. Good shooter, good lightweight 26.5oz edc.

silverpigeon
07-11-2013, 10:16 PM
I just started casting a couple of months ago. Been pushing 200gr swc Lee tumble lubes over 4.0gr of 700x as a starter and have loved every minute of it from procuring the lead to smelting,casting,and loading. The only thing I cant stand is the lack of time in the day.

Love Life
07-11-2013, 10:22 PM
H&G 34 or H&G 34 clone.

Powder: Bullseye, unique, 231, and many more. I have a large assortment of pistol powder from when I first started loading so I go through 1 pound of a powder, and when it is out swap to another. I reckon around the year 2050 I'll get through all of the powder and be able to use my kegs of unique.

dragon813gt
07-11-2013, 10:28 PM
W231/HP-38, any load listed in the manuals work. I have found no reason to use any other powder in any of my non magnum handguns.

daniel lawecki
07-11-2013, 10:29 PM
Single groove 200gr SWC Clays powder 4.0 grs just under max. Springfield 1911 and Colt love this load . Couple people at the club have changed from 231 and bullseye to clays clean burning not much smoke at all . I,ve use over 10lbs of this powder in .45 -38-45lc just bought 2 8lb jugs at Camp Perry a couple days before opening shot.

375RUGER
07-12-2013, 08:54 AM
700X is my do-all powder for the 45 for 200-230g . I use some Universal and W231 also, but burn a lot more 700X.

I pour a 220g HP and a NOE 452-230g HP myself.

bobthenailer
07-12-2013, 09:14 AM
200gr swc HG 68 or a copy of it ,I personaly have the Saeco 068 , this bullet has been shot in at least 20 different 45 acp pistols with excellent results.
As for powder i used to use Bullseye for about 20+ years but since Tightgroup came out ive switched to it with excellent results and it keeps the gun cleaner than Bullseye ! another excellent powder is WSL now disconued, i still have about 1 1/2 lbs left and a few thousand rounds loaded with it.

wvmanchu
07-12-2013, 09:31 AM
Lyman 452460, 200gr LSWC over 4.0 gr Bullseye shoots great in my Springfield and my Kimber.

scattershot
07-12-2013, 10:33 AM
200 grain swc over 4.0 Red Dot. Accurate!

Ed_Shot
07-12-2013, 10:51 AM
Lyman 452374 (RN 230 gr) or 452630 (SWC 200 gr) are very accurate over Promo 4.5. I get @770 fps with the 230 gr. and @ 800 fps with the 200 gr. 100% reliable in Glock and 1911.

Down South
07-12-2013, 11:18 AM
Bullseye was the go to powder for years for the 45 acp. MiHec is just finishing up a run of 452-200 moulds. I have a couple of the earlier runs, one 2-cavity and just got a 4-cavity. You might check with him if you are intrested in one of those moulds.
The GB for the last run is here. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?151445-MiHec-2-or-4-cavity-brass-45-RCBS-Cramer-HP

TCFAN
07-12-2013, 11:24 AM
I like Bullseye. I use the Lyman 200 gr. 452460 SWC with 5.0 grs and the Lyman 225gr. 452374 round nose with 4.5 grs. I don't see a problem with Bullseye being any more dirty than any other powders......Terry

Adam10mm
07-12-2013, 12:12 PM
Lee 230gr TC with 6.0gr WSF.

Char-Gar
07-12-2013, 12:22 PM
The 45 ACP round was developed with Bullseye powder and billions of rounds have been loaded with that same power by factories over the past 100 years. Does that tell you anything?

The world is full of good of 200 to 230 grain cast bullet designs that work to perfection in the 45 ACP round in the 1911 pistol. Hensley and Gibbs #68 (everybody make a clone) or Lyman 452460 are among the best.

prs
07-12-2013, 02:32 PM
Been loading, casting and shooting for many other calibers for years. I finally got my first 1911, a Ruger SR 1911 back in Dec., and now I am ready to start casting for it. After 6 months I have finally been able to get a set of Dillon .45 acp dies. Anyway, I was wondering what moulds, powders and loads people are liking/using in the .45 acp?

Bigscot

Very similar situation. Got my first 1911 last year and picked up another this Spring; both SR1911. I have shot nothing but my own boolits in them. The Rugers seem to have nice generous chambers, but the leade is abrupt. Use your barrel as a case gauge for the plunk test. The boolit my two SR1911's feed and cycle best are the Lyman 452374 hardball clone and Lyman 452460 semi wad cutter (the 452460 shoots best of what I have tried) . I have little success with tumble lube in these pistols, but NRA 50:50 does the trick. The Lee TL round nosed 45ACP boolit gave me some jambs, but the Lee bevel based traditional 230 TC bullet does pretty well with NRA lube.

prs

Dave C.
07-12-2013, 05:49 PM
Any of the fast pistol powders will do the job. But IMO bullseye is best.

Dave C.

smokeywolf
07-12-2013, 06:12 PM
Bigscot,

For the sake of economy, but mainly because I'm old and set in my ways, I use the same powders in 45 ACP, 45 LC and 38 Special; Unique or Bullseye. Dad used those same powders before me. Yes, Bullseye and Unique a dirty, but cleaning my guns gives me a chance to inspect for wear, cracks or potential metal fatigue.

Be sure you don't throw a double charge of Bullseye.

smokeywolf

22cf45
07-13-2013, 02:04 PM
I would second Char-Gar's advice. Over my 30+ years of competitive shooting with a .45, I started with Bullseye and I'm ending with Bullseye. I tried some of the other options during that time, but I always came back to Bullseye. Why? One primary reason, loads with Bullseye consistently shot the smallest groups. If they were to quit making Bullseye, I would use WST.
Phil

MtGun44
07-13-2013, 05:57 PM
H&G 68 clone is choice #1. Lyman 452460 is close behind. Size to .452, lube with NRA 50-50.

Use a fast powder like Bullseye or Titegroup. Seat H&G 68 clone to 1.250-1.260 based on your
chamber (use dismounted barrel as gage) and taper crimp as a separate operation to .465 to .470
diam at front of case mouth.

Bill

bobthenailer
07-14-2013, 06:26 AM
I like Bullseye. I use the Lyman 200 gr. 452460 SWC with 5.0 grs and the Lyman 225gr. 452374 round nose with 4.5 grs. I don't see a problem with Bullseye being any more dirty than any other powders......Terry

What i ment about was the entier gun stays cleaner inside & out . do a test ! shoot 100 + rounds from 2 identical guns & compair them inside & out ! the internals are alot cleaner with TG powder !

mainiac
07-14-2013, 07:15 AM
Been loading, casting and shooting for many other calibers for years. I finally got my first 1911, a Ruger SR 1911 back in Dec., and now I am ready to start casting for it. After 6 months I have finally been able to get a set of Dillon .45 acp dies. Anyway, I was wondering what moulds, powders and loads people are liking/using in the .45 acp?

Bigscot

I started down this same road,back in dec as well.My first 45 1911,,,,,,,,after 1400 rounds of load work,,ive found the accurate#68 boolit,ahead of 4.0 grs of clays,is the most consistantly accurate load for my ruger. Shoots 100% flawless,and the clays powder is amazingly clean burning......

Bigscot
07-14-2013, 03:28 PM
Thanks Guys for all the replies. I now have some place to start. I already have Unique, Bullseye and 231.

Thanks Again,

Bigscot

LUCKYDAWG13
07-14-2013, 04:17 PM
i use Bullseye and Lyman mold #452374 works great in my XDs

captaint
07-14-2013, 06:12 PM
Might as well throw in here. For powders, I use Red Dot, Clays, Tightgroup mostly. For boolits, usually the H&G 68 or a good clone. The Lyman 452460 is great, the RCBS 200gr SWC is a good one. The H&G 34 clone I have is great. Heck, they all shoot good, really.. Mike

DrCaveman
07-14-2013, 07:17 PM
Another vote here for a good h&g 68 clone, mine is from Accurate Molds, and my 1911 has never shot better.

As for powder, i tried and tried to break new ground (and i do have a few good loads using ramshot competition)...but the fact is, for me, nothing shoots better across a wide range of velocities than Bullseye.

Those old fellers telling you about Bullseye & hg68 know their stuff. One would do well to listen. Im stubborn so it took me a while but the proof is in the shooting. My chosen load right now is 5.0 gr for just over 900 fps

detox
07-15-2013, 08:34 PM
My RCBS 200 mould is the easiest mould to cast with. Try to keep boolits under 210 grains (conserve lead)

357mags
07-16-2013, 09:37 AM
I'm trying to finish up a 4lb keg of Green Dot. After about 2000rds, I can say it's awesome in 45acp. Bullseye is great too. As for bullets, any cast I can get my hands on works fine!