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Victor N TN
07-09-2013, 03:57 PM
Several years ago I borrowed a mold from a friend at work. It was a 4 cavity Lyman 44 SWC GC design. As cast it weighs 241.5 grains with hard alloy. As cast it's 0.761" tall and 0.434" OD It has 2 separate lube grooves and a case crimp groove, along with the gas check shank.

Evidently Lyman doesn't offer this mold any more. Does any one now which mold blocks I'm speaking of? Or any where I might be able to find one in serviceable condition? Or probably the longest shot, find it for an affordable price?

Thanks in advance.
Victor

Firebricker
07-09-2013, 04:43 PM
sounds like 429244 just going from memory if it is I think there was a group buy for that design. FB

Iowa Fox
07-09-2013, 05:04 PM
That description sure sounds like the 429244. I have two of them a 2 cav and a 4 cav both Ideals. The 2 cav drops at .434 and the 4 cav drops at 432. Sure wish the 4 cav would spit them out at .434 The 429244 was a very common mold and they turn up all over the place at reasonable prices. Keep your eyes open and snoop around, I paid $30 dollars for my 4 cav with handles.

GLL
07-09-2013, 05:10 PM
The 429244 has a single lube groove !

Two lube grooves, gas checked. and a light 240 grains !

Jerry

theperfessor
07-09-2013, 05:23 PM
I couldn't find any reference to a Lyman mold that matches that description. The 429244 I have has a fairly long GC shank and with the GC in place the extra space fills with lube and looks like another GC groove. Could this be what the OP is referring to? It matches the description in all other respects.

Firebricker
07-09-2013, 07:02 PM
I couldn't find any reference to a Lyman mold that matches that description. The 429244 I have has a fairly long GC shank and with the GC in place the extra space fills with lube and looks like another GC groove. Could this be what the OP is referring to? It matches the description in all other respects.

That is why I was thinking 429244 it since it does kind of look like a second groove when using a 4500 that lubes everything not full diameter. FB

Victor N TN
07-09-2013, 08:39 PM
If I can figure out how to post photos, I'll try to take a few shots and post them here. But there is a positive 2 grease grooves with a curved groove for the case mouth. Yes, the gas check stem is long enough that lube finishes filing that up.

I'm just looking for a good 4 or more cavity SWC 44 mold in that 240 grain weight zone. Being disabled and on a small pension I don't have a ton of money to sink in it. But the S&W 629 a family member got a couple of years ago is a wonder to shoot. Especially since I have a Winchester chamber for it as well.

MtGun44
07-09-2013, 09:15 PM
I'll SLIGHTLY disagree with 431244. Be careful about saying "no such thing" - I own one. ;-)

Bill

Bigslug
07-09-2013, 09:41 PM
Well Vic, it sounds like the 429244 which is still on Lyman's website.

But if you're not married to the idea of the gas check, you might try one of these: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=247

Basically a clone of the classic Keith, and for your money, you're getting two molds in one. With the hollow point pins installed, I'm getting 235 grains with wheelweight+2% tin. Set up in SWC configuration, 255 grains with the same alloy. Al seems to run this mold with some frequency. It's not hard to get on his "notify me" list.

theperfessor
07-09-2013, 10:54 PM
Bill, is the only difference between your mold and the 429xxx the diameter? Do you have any pictures if it is different?

Victor N TN
07-09-2013, 11:22 PM
Guys, I'm going to cash it in for tonight. The pain meds I'm taking for a kidney stone is kicking my butt. I feel like I'm about to fall out of the chair. I'll pick up here again Wednesday.

Pakprotector
07-10-2013, 10:39 AM
Check this set of pics out. http://www.castpics.net/subsite/HistMolds/IdealandLymanMolds.pdf
cheers,
Douglas

GLL
07-10-2013, 11:37 AM
Here is the 45 2.1 Group Buy design for reference:

http://www.fototime.com/3AD605D30519365/standard.jpg

Jerry

Firebricker
07-10-2013, 03:09 PM
Vic, The 429244 may not be the exact mold your thinking of but it sounds close. So if you would like to try some I have a coffee can full of them I'd be more than happy to send some if you want to give them a try. FB

Victor N TN
07-10-2013, 06:48 PM
Vic, The 429244 may not be the exact mold your thinking of but it sounds close. So if you would like to try some I have a coffee can full of them I'd be more than happy to send some if you want to give them a try. FB

Were you serious about sending me a few bullets? If so I think that would be wonderful. Can you tell me about the group buy? I have never participated in one before.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Victor N TN
07-19-2013, 01:43 PM
I never could get our el'cheapo digital camera to come up with anything close enough to do any good. But I have been able to scan it with my desk top scanner. It still doesn't show what I wanted. But here it is.

Victor N TN
07-19-2013, 01:47 PM
test 1

bhn22
07-19-2013, 07:50 PM
It looks like one of the old style Lee bullets. You're certain it's a Lyman?

PbHurler
07-20-2013, 07:26 AM
Those sure look like the Lee 240gr GC.

See here: http://leeprecision.com/bullet-casting/hand-gun-bullet-molds/bullet-mold-6-cavity/

Victor N TN
07-20-2013, 09:40 AM
I cast these in the mid 1980s. It was a Lyman mold X 4. I had everything to size and lube them at the time. But because of surgery on my right elbow, I put it off. Then eventually I sold the pistol because of a lot of pain that the DOCTOR SAID would never go away.

Sorry, long story short, I kept the Winchester rifle chambered for 44 mag. A few years ago I found that as long as I didn't push things too much I could still shoot a 44.

But yes, the mold was a Lyman.

I'm sorry. The pain meds are making me drift away somewhere.

GLL
07-20-2013, 02:39 PM
A little bigger.

http://www.fototime.com/E4027B4524683B8/orig.jpg

LEE 429-240SWC
http://www.fototime.com/6CC0A34C5DC36EE/xlarge.jpg

Jerry

John D
07-20-2013, 03:00 PM
A little bigger.

http://www.fototime.com/E4027B4524683B8/orig.jpg

LEE 429-240SWC
http://www.fototime.com/6CC0A34C5DC36EE/xlarge.jpg

Jerry

Yep, these sure look like the LEE 240 gr SWC..

John D
07-20-2013, 03:08 PM
Jerry added that pic of the 240gr LEE as i was typing (hunt and peck method).

Victor N TN
07-31-2013, 01:11 PM
Every body,
Thanks for all the emails. I've been under the weather again. I see the oncologist again Friday. Maybe we can get some answers.

Firebricker,
Thanks for the many samples. I like the looks of the GC one. I'll try to get out and load some and see how they shoot. Thanks a lot.