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blltsmth
07-07-2013, 04:17 PM
If you are a serious shooter that uses Hornady products:THEY WILL BE SUSPENDING MOST OF THEIR PRODUCT LINE TO PLAY"CATCH-UP." JUST A LITTLE SERIOUS FYI!!!

Bonz
07-07-2013, 04:24 PM
May just be a bad rumor...

http://www.hornady.com/support/availability

DCM
07-07-2013, 06:37 PM
I will believe it when I hear it straight form them.
I need to call them anyways for other info.

btroj
07-07-2013, 06:40 PM
Ah yes, more Internet rumor and paranoia

Catshooter
07-07-2013, 06:53 PM
Your source please?


Cat

starmac
07-07-2013, 06:58 PM
Just curious, how can they suspend production and catch up at the same time??

I can see them not selling reloading components to catch up with ammo supply.

BruceB
07-07-2013, 07:00 PM
Pray tell....

Just exactly HOW does one "catch up" by STOPPING production?

Seems like a perfect way to fall further behind, doesn't it?

HATCH
07-07-2013, 07:26 PM
I would believe it if it said "stopping production on NEW designs until current designs are caught up"

Right now its the time to SELL SELL SELL.
They are making as much as they can as quick as they can while demand is high.

Moonman
07-07-2013, 07:43 PM
Just total internet BS or a TROLL IN ACTION.

Gliden07
07-07-2013, 07:49 PM
Fi, Fye, Foe, Fam I smell a Troll spreading BS again!!

Bzcraig
07-07-2013, 07:53 PM
I get sooooo tired of having to validate stories passed along on the Internet. I have gotten to the point where if I see an email has need forwarded, it is an automatic delete. As already mention it is impossible to catch up by suspending production. I appreciate that Hornady would make that statement on their site, good solid customer service and PR. Honest, intelligent conversation always works for me even if it is bad news, give it to me and let me deal with/process it.

462
07-07-2013, 10:29 PM
I fail to understand how people continue to fall for such obvious misinformation. It's a given, too, that the same people don't understand how capitalism and the free market work.

Oh, well, such is the human condition.

TCLouis
07-07-2013, 11:31 PM
Luckily I have the bullet supply to carry me on to the next world. Of course I just shoot a few to check zeros in the fall.

Of course I do need to stumble on a mother lode of COWWs as I am in very SHORT supply here and I shoot Boolits 100-10,000 to 1 over coated projies..

MT Gianni
07-07-2013, 11:47 PM
As casters we should not have many concerns about what j-word manufacturers are doing.

Win94ae
07-08-2013, 01:49 AM
Two days ago, the status of some of the Hornady bullets in my wish list at MidwayUSA had been changed from, "Out of Stock, No Backorder" to "Temporarily unavailable". So something is up.
Good thing I just got done buying boolit molds for all my firearms.

madsenshooter
07-08-2013, 01:57 AM
Lots of "temporarily unavailable" Hornady 30 cal bullets at Graf's too.

starmac
07-08-2013, 02:30 AM
Just like most components, old reloaders buying them by the thousands, new reloaders buying what they can when they can find it. I would bet there have been thousands of new presses sold to people that haven't found any powder or primers yet.

Cosmiceyes
07-08-2013, 03:16 AM
Well I can see it's a bad rummer! I think bad companies are ordering,and warehousing it back to raise the own profit times 4 over regular retail. When I get ammo at Wally World,and Bass Pro Shops it's still a normal price. I just bought 5ea of the 525 count boxes Saturday. Somewhere around a hundred dollars.Other companies are not so honest.Natches Tr./Cheaper Than D/J&G/and so on.
Bonz's link tells it like it is from Hornady.

May just be a bad rumor...

http://www.hornady.com/support/availability

starmac
07-08-2013, 03:40 AM
Wallmart here is nowhere like the old prices. I don't think companies are storing it to drive prices up, we are doing that to ourselves.

Bad Water Bill
07-08-2013, 08:00 AM
I doubt OLD TIMERS are the guilty ones.

Many of us live on a fixed income and can not possibly afford the NEW prices.

Being OLD TIMERS many of us looked ahead to retirement and decided on our limitations at that time.

No I am not interested in new toys.

Yes I have brass for every gun I own and moulds to fit every gun and a fair supply of components to last me till??

We have seen most of this many times before and did what we had to.

Now it looks like we will have to start classes to instruct new members to the fold or watch them self destruct due to ignorance.

novalty
07-08-2013, 08:20 AM
Feels like it is suspended already, been waiting on Cabelas to come through on a 500ct of Hornady 9mm I placed an order for on January 24th. Rapidly approaching 6 months and no signs of order being fulfilled.

Adam10mm
07-08-2013, 11:38 AM
There's a few PDFs on Snipershide forum that an FFL got from a wholesaler. It's posted there with a cover letter. The post on Hornady's site is from February 2012, they posted the same thing on their FB page that time. Then there's a letter signed by Steve Hornady saying they aren't suspending anything, but it's dated Sunday July 7 of this year. Really? The CEO would leave his family to scratch out a letter and post it on the internet on a Sunday for a few hundred people that are freaking out over availability? I'm not sure I believe it.

bfoosh006
07-08-2013, 01:37 PM
Sorry to say this , but....

Just spoke to Hornady, it is true ! While I can't confirm the list, I was told it is going to happen and they will e-mail me the list.

I was fooled by a letter on the CMP forums into thinking this was false..... ( I'm the "Sucker born every minute... ")

Hornady CS 1-800-338-3220

Swamp Man
07-08-2013, 01:48 PM
Everyone should boycott them if they stop production and never buy from them again.

Love Life
07-08-2013, 01:50 PM
^^^ Yeah. That'll show em, and then we'll lose a long standing manufacturer of great products.

Moonman
07-08-2013, 02:07 PM
Apparently Hornady plans to stop producing 150 Rifle bullet types on July 10, 2013 for the

remainder of 2013.

They plan on producing more of other bullets, Handgun types I assume.

Lists of the 150 calibers/designs will be coming or are out there already.

Many rifle shooters are PO'D for sure.

Springfield
07-08-2013, 02:08 PM
You can't suspend production and catch up, but you can suspend new sales until you catch up. Or you can suspend production of certain items in order to produce the more popular items until you catch up. Done that myself. Big difference.

Swamp Man
07-08-2013, 02:14 PM
^^^ Yeah. That'll show em, and then we'll lose a long standing manufacturer of great products.
You either serve your customers or you fold it's that simple.

Adam10mm
07-08-2013, 02:29 PM
Or you can suspend production of certain items in order to produce the more popular items until you catch up. Done that myself. Big difference.
I think that is what they are doing here.

Love Life
07-08-2013, 02:38 PM
You either serve your customers or you fold it's that simple.

Maybe they should shoot their prices through the roof to what the current market will bear. That way less people will buy and then they'll be able to catch up without having to stop production of some items. Which one do you want?

It seems it is something they have to do inorder to get back to where they need to be production wise.

Aww hell. What am I thinking trying to insert common sense where none is wanted?

Hornady Evil!!!! Let me go get my pitchfork and I'm gonna run them out of this here town!!!

Swamp Man
07-08-2013, 03:18 PM
Maybe they should shoot their prices through the roof to what the current market will bear. That way less people will buy and then they'll be able to catch up without having to stop production of some items. Which one do you want?

It seems it is something they have to do inorder to get back to where they need to be production wise.

Aww hell. What am I thinking trying to insert common sense where none is wanted?

Hornady Evil!!!! Let me go get my pitchfork and I'm gonna run them out of this here town!!!
Yeah stop production on what the people want that's a great business plan if you live in the twilight zone. However it's their business so let them do what they want.

Love Life
07-08-2013, 03:24 PM
They are ceasing production on some items to increase production on IN DEMAND ITEMS. You know, the items people are ordering the most of because THEY WANT THEM, and they are now backordered until the second coming.

And...nevermind.

Blacksmith
07-08-2013, 04:36 PM
This is what you get when DEMAND exceeds SUPPLY. Tough choices and you can't please everybody. Anyone remember gas lines and odd and even days? What will it be like when demand for healthcare exceeds supply? Or when it is demand for food and limited supply? Which hard choices do you want them to make then?

Stocking up and finding alternates are choices the consumer can make rather than waiting for the suppliers or government to make tough choices you may not like..

Moonman
07-08-2013, 04:38 PM
Someone needs to mellow out and quit eating so much Gator and Mudbugs.

More Salads and Tofu would help your disposition.:kidding:

grampa243
07-08-2013, 09:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p2pl3ZsH8s&feature=em-uploademail

uscra112
07-08-2013, 09:45 PM
What's the big deal? Why do we care? Don't we cast our own ???

jsheyn
07-08-2013, 09:47 PM
http://m.hornady.com/support/availability


Product Availability Update
Hornady Makes Plans to Increase Production Volume

For over half a year, Hornady Manufacturing, along with the rest of the shooting sports industry, has experienced an unbelievable spike in demand. This dramatic increase in demand is unprecedented. As stated earlier this year in our Product Availability FAQ we have been continuously growing for a number of years; adding people, equipment and manufacturing space as rapidly as we can. We are producing and shipping product at record levels and are continually looking to grow and improve our ability to fulfill orders. But the current state of the industry is such that our increase in shipments this year is overshadowed by a 200% increase in demand.

One area that we have identified that will enable us to increase production, is the minimization of machinery downtime. The largest period of downtime our machines experience is during change over and retooling to convert a machine from manufacturing one bullet or cartridge to another. Under normal market conditions, we can keep the supply chain full by making popular items on a regular basis and keeping specialty or less-used products on a seasonal basis. However, with demand at record levels, it has become difficult to justify shutting down a machine to change it over to produce a product of less demand. Therefore, we are temporarily suspending some items in order to focus our efforts on the most popular and highest demand products and ship more total product.

We realize that many of the suspended items are going to disappoint some of our customers. We have painstakingly reviewed our order status and order history and unfortunately had to make some tough decisions. It wasn't easy, but we know that we will do a better job of servicing the industry as a whole by focusing on the items of highest demand.

We are not alone; this is effectively already happening throughout our industry, but is accomplished through selective manufacture with no notification to the industry. We are simply making every effort to be up-front about our plans to maximize production.

Again, this is only temporary. This is not a permanent suspension. We will continue to push as hard as we can to meet the demand of our industry and will produce our full catalog of items as soon as we can. Please know that nobody wants to produce more and get our product to into your hands more than we do.

And lastly, we feel compelled to address some of the conspiracy theories that we have seen posted. NO, this is not a conspiracy effort to shape the industry, nor is it controlled by the government. We are simply being forthright about our manufacturing plans and our efforts to supply MORE product to the very hungry shooting sports industry.

We truly appreciate your patience during this period of time. Thank you for your understanding.

The Team at Hornady

theperfessor
07-08-2013, 09:54 PM
Makes sense to me, I know how changeovers can limit production. I for one appreciate a company being up front with things.

Bonz
07-08-2013, 10:03 PM
Wow, I didn't believe it until I watched the video.

Artful
07-08-2013, 10:17 PM
http://www.hornady.com/support/availability/production-list
Updated 2013 Hornady Commercial Ammunition and Bullet Production List
Download a PDF of the Updated 2013 Hornady Commercial Ammunition and Bullet Production List here.
http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/support/Updated-2013-Hornady-Commercial-Ammo-Bullet-Production-List.pdf

Item # Description Item # Description
6414 #4 BUCKSHOT .240 DIAMETER 6110 54 CAL .535 LEAD BALLS
6400 00 BUCKSHOT .330 DIAMETER 6630 54 CAL 425 GR HB-HP
64000 000 BUCKSHOT .350 DIAMETER 6120 58 CAL .570 LEAD BALLS
40000 10MM .400 155 GR XTP® 26172 6.5MM .264 120 GR A-MAX®
40047B 10MM .400 180 GR FMJ-FP 26110 6.5MM .264 120 GR GMX®
40047B 10MM .400 180 GR FMJ-FP 26171 6.5MM .264 123 GR A-MAX®
400471 10MM .400 180 GR FMJ-FP (500) 261715 6.5MM .264 123 GR A-MAX® (500)
40042B 10MM .400 180 GR HAP® 26173 6.5MM .264 123 GR SST®
40042B 10MM .400 180 GR HAP® 26202 6.5MM .264 129 GR SST®
400421 10MM .400 180 GR HAP® (500) 263355 6.5MM .264 140 BTHP MATCH¯ (500)
40040 10MM .400 180 GR XTP® 26332 6.5MM .264 140 GR A-MAX®
40077B 10MM .400 200 GR FMJ/FP 26302 6.5MM .264 140 GR SST®
40077B 10MM .400 200 GR FMJ/FP 2453 6MM .243 100 GR BTSP
40061B 10MM .400 200 GR HAP® 2457 6MM .243 105 GR BTHP
40061B 10MM .400 200 GR HAP® 2458 6MM .243 105 GR BTHP MATCH¯
40060 10MM .400 200 GR XTP® 24585 6MM .243 105 GR BTHP MATCH¯(500)
17072 17 CAL .172 17 GR V-MAX® 22411 6MM .243 58 GR V-MAX®
21710 17 CAL .172 20 GR V-MAX® 24370 6MM .243 80 GR GMX®
17105 17 CAL .172 25 GR V-MAX® 22440 6MM .243 87 GR V-MAX®
22004 20 CAL .204 32 GR V-MAX® 24532 6MM .243 95 GR SST®
22406 20 CAL .204 32 GR V-MAX® (250) 3142 7.62X39 .310 123 GR SST®
22003 20 CAL .204 32 GR Z-MAX¯ 3143 7.62X39 .310 123 GR Z-MAX¯
22002 20 CAL .204 33 GR V-MAX® 2825 7MM .284 139 GR BTSP
22006 20 CAL .204 40 GR V-MAX® 28270 7MM .284 139 GR GMX®
22606 20 CAL .204 40 GR V-MAX® (250) 28202 7MM .284 139 GR SST®
22241 22 CAL .224 40 GR V-MAX® 28302 7MM .284 154 GR SST®
22416 22 CAL .224 40 GR V-MAX® (250) 28452 7MM .284 162 GR SST®
22403 22 CAL .224 50 GR GMX® 3234 8MM .323 180 GR GMX®
2245 22 CAL .224 50 GR SP 3236 8MM .323 195 GR SP
22261 22 CAL .224 50 GR V-MAX® 3562 9.3 CAL .366 250 GR GMX®
22616 22 CAL .224 50 GR V-MAX® (250) 35557 9MM .355 115 GR FMJ RN
22495 22 CAL .224 52 BTHP MATCH¯ (500) 35557B 9MM .355 115 GR FMJ RN
2249 22 CAL .224 52 GR BTHP MATCH¯ 35557B 9MM .355 115 GR FMJ RN
22265 22 CAL .224 53 GR V-MAX® 355281 9MM .355 115 GR HAP® (500)
2267 22 CAL .224 55 GR FMJ-BT W/C 35540 9MM .355 115 GR XTP®
22273 22 CAL .224 55 GR GMX® 35577B 9MM .355 124 GR FMJ-RN
2265 22 CAL .224 55 GR SP 35577B 9MM .355 124 GR FMJ-RN
22655 22 CAL .224 55 GR SP (250) 355771 9MM .355 124 GR FMJ-RN (500)
2266 22 CAL .224 55 GR SP W/C 35571 9MM .355 124 GR XTP®
22666 22 CAL .224 55 GR SP W/C (600) 35597B 9MM .355 147 GR FMJ-RN
22271 22 CAL .224 55 GR V-MAX® 35597B 9MM .355 147 GR FMJ-RN
22716 22 CAL .224 55 GR V-MAX® (250) 35580 9MM .355 147 GR XTP®
22272 22 CAL .224 55 GR V-MAX® W/C 35500 9MM .355 90 GR XTP®
22785 22 CAL .224 68 BTHP MATCH¯ (500) 35572B 9MM .356 125 GR HAP®
2278 22 CAL .224 68 GR BTHP MATCH¯ 35572B 9MM .356 125 GR HAP®
22796 22 CAL .224 75 GR BTHP (600) 355721 9MM .356 125 GR HAP® (500)
2279 22 CAL .224 75 GR BTHP MATCH¯ 9126 10MM 180 GR XTP®
2552 25 CAL .257 117 GR BTSP 86242 12 GA #4 NICKEL 3 TURKEY"
25522 25 CAL .257 117 GR SST® 86241 12 GA #5 NICKEL 3 TURKEY"
25410 25 CAL .257 90 GR GMX® 86244 12 GA #6 NICKEL 3 TURKEY"
22721 270 CAL .277 110 GR V-MAX® W/C 86240 12 GA 00 BUCKSHOT CD
27370 270 CAL .277 130 GR GMX® 86246 12 GA 00 BUCKSHOT SPF
2730 270 CAL .277 130 GR SP 86247 12 GA 00 BUCKSHOT Z-MAX¯
27302 270 CAL .277 130 GR SST® 86224 12 GA 00 NICKEL 3 COYOTE"
27352 270 CAL .277 140 GR SST® 86276 12 GA 2 3/4 00 TAP® FPD¯"
2716 270/6.8 .277 120 GR SST® 86222 12 GA BB NICKEL 3 COYOTE"
3019 30 CAL .308 125 GR SST® 86230 12 GA SLUG 300 FTX® LITE
30311 30 CAL .308 140 GR MFX (308MX) 8623 12 GA SLUG 300 GR FTX®
30310 30 CAL .308 140 GR MONOFLEX® 86236 12 GA SLUG 300 GR MFX SPF
3037 30 CAL .308 150 GR FMJ-BT 86243 12 GA VX¯ #4 BUCKSHOT
30370 30 CAL .308 150 GR GMX® 83171 17 HMR 15.5 GR NTX®
3031 30 CAL .308 150 GR SP 83170 17 HMR 17 GR V-MAX®
30302 30 CAL .308 150 GR SST® 83172 17 HMR 20 GR XTP®
30303 30 CAL .308 150GR SST® 300 SAV 83170P 17 HMR 20 GR XTP® PRF
30312 30 CAL .308 155 GR A-MAX® 83004 17 HORNET 15.5 GR NTX®SPF
30396 30 CAL .308 160 GR FTX® 308 MX 83005 17 HORNET 20 GR V-MAX®SPF
30395 30 CAL .308 160GR FTX® 30-30 83176 17 MACH2 15.5 GR NTX®
3045 30 CAL .308 165 GR BTSP 83177 17 MACH2 17 GR V-MAX®
30470 30 CAL .308 165 GR GMX® 86232 20 GA SLUG 250 GR FTX®
30452 30 CAL .308 165 GR SST® 86237 20 GA SLUG 250 GR MFX SPF
305015 30 CAL .308 168 BTHP MATCH¯(500) 83204 204 RUGER 32GR V-MAX® SPF
30502 30 CAL .308 168 GR A-MAX® 8302 22 HORNET 35 GR V-MAX®
305026 30 CAL .308 168 GR A-MAX®(250) 83202 22 WMR 30 GR V-MAX®
305016 30 CAL .308 168 GR BTHP (250) 83200 22 WMR 45 GR FTX® CD
30501 30 CAL .308 168 GR BTHP MATCH¯ 83366 22-250 50 GR V-MAX® SPF
30712 30 CAL .308 178 GR A-MAX® 83365 22-250 REM 55 GR SP 50 CT
3070 30 CAL .308 180 GR SP 8337 22-250 REM 55 GR V-MAX®
30702 30 CAL .308 180 GR SST® 8025 223 REM 53 GR V-MAX® SPF
30732 30 CAL .308 208 GR A-MAX® 80275 223 REM 55 GR FMJ/BT (50)
31000 30 CAL .309 90 GR XTP® 83274 223 REM 55 GR GMX® SPF
3100 30 MAUSER .308 86 GR RN 80255 223 REM 55 GR SP (50)
6000 32 CAL .310 LEAD BALLS 8327 223 REM 55 GR V-MAX®
32010 32 CAL .311 60 GR XTP® 83271 223 REM 55 GR Z-MAX¯
32070 32 CAL .312 100 GR XTP® 8026 223 REM 75 GR BTHP MATCH¯
32050 32 CAL .312 85 GR XTP® 80264 223 REM 75 GR BTHP SPF
6003 32 CAL .315 LEAD BALLS 81264 5.56 NATO 75 GR BTHP SPF
32005 32 CAL .321 165 GR FTX® 8047 243 WIN 100 GR BTSP AW
33270 338 CAL .338 185 GR GMX® 80456 243 WIN 80 GR GMX® SPF
33104 338 CAL .338 200 GR FTX® 80463 243 WIN 95 GR SST® SPF
33202 338 CAL .338 225 GR SST® 90012 25 AUTO 35 GR XTP®
3330 338 CAL .338 250 GR RN 8144 25-06 REM 117 GR BTSP AW
33361 338 CAL .338 250GR BTHP MATCH¯ 81453 25-06 REM 117 GR SST® SPF
3339 338 CAL .338 285GR BTHP MATCH¯ 8052 270 WIN 130 GR GMX® SPF
3415 348 CAL .348 200 GR FTX® 8053 270 WIN 130 GR SP AW
35105 35 CAL .358 200 GR FTX® 80543 270 WIN 130 GR SST® SPF
3515 35 CAL .358 200 GR RN 81586 280 REM 139 GR GMX® SPF
3510 35 CAL .358 200 GR SP 8103 30 CARBINE 110 FMJ STL 50
3525 35 CAL .358 250 GR RN 81006 30 T/C 150 GR GMX® SPF
3520 35 CAL .358 250 GR SP-RP 81004 30 T/C 150 GR SST® SPF
6010 36 CAL .350 LEAD BALLS 82231 300 RCM 150 GR SST® SPF
6020 36 CAL .375 LEAD BALLS 82229 300 RCM 165 GR GMX® SPF
3708 375 CAL .375 250 GR GMX® 82235 300 RCM 180 GR SST® SPF
3727 375 CAL .375 300 GR DGS® 82221 300 SAVAGE 150 GR SST®SPF
3721 375 CAL .375 300 GR DGX® 8089 300 WHISPER® 110GR V-MAX®
3720 375 CAL .375 300 GR RN 80892 300 WHISPER® 208 GR AMAX®
37277 375 CAL.375 300 GR FMJ ENC 8204 300 WIN MAG 150 SP AW
35710 38 CAL .357 125 GR XTP® 82026 300 WIN MAG 165GR GMX®SPF
35745 38 CAL .357 140 GR FTX® 82193 300 WIN MAG 180GR SST®SPF
35740 38 CAL .357 140 GR XTP® 8108 30-06 SPRG 150 GR SP AW
35750 38 CAL .357 158 GR XTP® 81093 30-06 SPRG 150 GR SST®SPF
6025 40 CAL .395 LEAD BALLS 8116 30-06 SPRG 165GR GMX® SPF
4103 400 CAL .410 400 GR DGS® 81183 30-06 SPRG 180GR SST® SPF
4104 400 CAL .410 400 GR DGX® 80801 30-30 WIN 150 GR RN AW
41050 405 WIN .411 300 GR FP 82730 30-30 WIN 160 GR FTX® LVR
41051 405 WIN .411 300 GR SP 82733 308 MARLIN EX 160 FTX®LVR
4167 416 CAL .416 400 GR DGS® 8090 308 WIN 150 GR SP AW
4169 416 CAL .416 400 GR DGX® 80933 308 WIN 150 GR SST® SPF
4165 416 CAL .416 400 GR RN 80926 308 WIN 155 BTHP STEEL 50
4241 423 CAL .423 400 GR DGS® 8095PM 308 WIN 155 GR A-MAX®
11058 44 CAL .430 180 GR COWBOY¯ 8099 308 WIN 165 GR GMX® SPF
44050 44 CAL .430 180 GR XTP® 8096 308 WIN 168 GR A-MAX®
44100 44 CAL .430 200 GR XTP® 8097 308 WIN 168GR BTHP MATCH¯
44105 44 CAL .430 225 GR FTX® 90062 32 AUTO 60 GR XTP®
11108 44 CAL .430 240 GR SWC 90070 32 NAA 80 GR FTX® CD
11118 44 CAL .430 240 GR SWC/HP 82306 338 LAP 285GR BTHP MATCH¯
44200 44 CAL .430 240 GR XTP® 82240 338 MAR EXP 200GR FTX®LVR
4300 44 CAL .430 265 GR FP 82238 338 RCM 185 GR GMX® SPF
4305 44 CAL .430 265 GR FTX® 82237 338 RCM 200 GR SST® SPF
6030 44 CAL .433 LEAD BALLS 82236 338 RCM 225 GR SST® SPF
6060 44 CAL .451 LEAD BALLS 82735 35 REM 200 GR FTX® LVR
6070 44 CAL .454 LEAD BALLS 81193 35 WHELEN 200 GR SP SPF
6040 45 CAL .440 LEAD BALLS 90500 357 MAG 125 GR FTX® CD
6050 45 CAL .445 LEAD BALLS 92755 357 MAG 140 GR FTX® LVR
45105B 45 CAL .451 185 GR HAP® 90562 357 MAG 158 GR XTP®
45105B 45 CAL .451 185 GR HAP® 9131 357 SIG 147 GR XTP®
451051 45 CAL .451 185 GR HAP® (500) 82311 375 H&H 250 GR GMX® SPF
45100 45 CAL .451 185 GR XTP® 82322 375 H&H 300 GR DGS®
45159B 45 CAL .451 200 GR HAP® 82332 375 H&H 300 GR DGX®
45159B 45 CAL .451 200 GR HAP® 82310 375 RUGER 250 GR GMX® SPF
45140 45 CAL .451 200 GR XTP® 8231 375 RUGER 270GR SP-RP SPF
45177 45 CAL .451 230 GR FMJ-RN 8232 375 RUGER 300 GR DGS® SPF
45177B 45 CAL .451 230 GR FMJ-RN 82333 375 RUGER 300 GR DGX® SPF
45177B 45 CAL .451 230 GR FMJ-RN 8234 376 STEYR 225 GR SP
451771 45 CAL .451 230 GR FMJ-RN (500) 8237 376 STEYR 270 GR SP-RP
45161B 45 CAL .451 230 GR HAP® 90310 38 SPCL 110 GR FTX® CD
45161B 45 CAL .451 230 GR HAP® 90362 38 SPCL 158 GR XTP®
451611 45 CAL .451 230 GR HAP® (500) 90300 38 SPCL 90 GR FTX® CD LT
45160 45 CAL .451 230 GR XTP® 90311 38 SPCL+P 110 GR FTX® CD
45215 45 CAL .452 200 GR FTX® 90080 380 AUTO 90 GR FTX® CD
12208 45 CAL .452 200 GR LEAD C/T 9132 40 S&W 155 GR XTP®
12108 45 CAL .452 200 GR SWC 91340 40 S&W 165 GR FTX® CD
45218 45 CAL .452 225 GR FTX® 91376 40 S&W 175 GR CRIT DUTY
12308 45 CAL .452 230 GR LRN 9136 40 S&W 180 GR XTP®
45220 45 CAL .452 240 GR XTP® MAG¯ 86238 410 TRIPLE DEFENSE¯
45201 45 CAL .452 250 GR FTX® 82674 416 REM 400 GR DGS®
45250 45 CAL .452 250 GR MONOFLEX® 82673 416 REM 400 GR DGX®
45202 45 CAL .452 250 GR SST® ML¯ 8265 416 RIGBY 400 GR DGS®
45200 45 CAL .452 250 GR XTP® 82663 416 RIGBY 400 GR DGX®
45207 45 CAL .452 300 GR SST® ML¯ 82666 416 RUGER 400 GR DGS®
45230 45 CAL .452 300 GR XTP® 82665 416 RUGER 400 GR DGX®
45235 45 CAL .452 300 GR XTP® MAG¯ 92782 44 MAG 225 GR FTX® LVR
12458 45 CAL .454 255 GR FP COWBOY¯ 9085 44 MAG 240 GR XTP®
6080 45 CAL .457 LEAD BALLS 90700 44 SPCL 165 GR FTX® CD
45010 45 CAL .458 250 GR MONOFLEX® 82744 444 MARLIN 265 GR FTX®LVR
4500 45 CAL .458 300 GR HP 90900 45 AUTO 185 GR FTX® CD
45015 45 CAL .458 325 GR FTX® 90902 45 AUTO 185 GR Z-MAX¯
45033 45 CAL .458 480 GR DGS® 9112 45 AUTO 200 GR XTP®
45032 45 CAL .458 480 GR DGX® 90926 45 AUTO+P 220 GR CRT DUTY
4507 45 CAL .458 500 GR DGS® 9096 45 AUTO+P 230 GR XTP®
4505 45 CAL .458 500 GR DGX® 92790 45 COLT 185 GR FTX® CD
4504 45 CAL .458 500 GR RN 92792 45 COLT 225 GR FTX® LVR
67132 45 CAL SABOT 40 200 GR SST®ML¯ 82244 450 BUSHMASTER 250GR FTX®
45202 45 CAL .452 250 GR SST® ML¯ 82750 450 MARLIN 325 GR FTX®LVR
45200 45 CAL .452 250 GR XTP® 8250 450 MARLIN 350 GR FP
45207 45 CAL .452 300 GR SST® ML¯ 8256 450 NITRO EX 480 GR DGS®
45230 45 CAL .452 300 GR XTP® 8255 450 NITRO EX 480 GR DGX®
45235 45 CAL .452 300 GR XTP® MAG¯ 8242 450-400 3 400 GR DGS®"
12458 45 CAL .454 255 GR FP COWBOY¯ 82433 450-400 3 400 GR DGX®"
6080 45 CAL .457 LEAD BALLS 82747 45-70 GOVT 325 GR FTX®LVR
45010 45 CAL .458 250 GR MONOFLEX® 82613 458 LOTT 500 GR DGX®
4500 45 CAL .458 300 GR HP 8585 458 WIN 500 GR DGS® SPF
45015 45 CAL .458 325 GR FTX® 85833 458 WIN 500 GR DGX® SPF
45033 45 CAL .458 480 GR DGS® 9152 460 S&W 200 GR FTX®
45032 45 CAL .458 480 GR DGX® 8264 470 NITRO EX 500 GR DGS®
4507 45 CAL .458 500 GR DGS® 8263 470 NITRO EX 500 GR DGX®
4505 45 CAL .458 500 GR DGX® 9138 480 RUGER 325GR XTP® MAG¯
4504 45 CAL .458 500 GR RN 8124 5.45X39 60 GR V-MAX®STEEL
67132 45 CAL SABOT 40 200 GR SST®ML¯ 9245 50 AE 300 GR XTP®
4748 470 CAL .474 500 GR DGS® 8270 50 BMG 750 GR A-MAX®
4748 470 CAL .474 500 GR DGS® 8269 500 NITRO EX 570 GR DGS®
50101 50 AE .500 300 GR XTP® MAG¯ 8268 500 NITRO EX 570 GR DGX®
6750 50 CAL .430 PKG SABOT (GREEN) 9250 500 S&W 350 GR XTP® MAG¯
6088 50 CAL .480 LEAD BALLS 81492 6.5 CREEDMOOR 120 A-MAX®
6090 50 CAL .490 LEAD BALLS 81490 6.5 CREEDMOOR 120 GMX®SPF
6093 50 CAL .495 LEAD BALLS 81496 6.5 CREEDMOOR 129 SST®SPF
50102 50 CAL .500 300 GR FTX® 81494 6.5 CREEDMOOR 140 A-MAX®
5165 50 CAL .510 750 GR A-MAX® 8150 6.5 GRENDEL 123 GR A-MAX®
6617 50 CAL 240 GR PA CONICAL 8152 6.5 GRENDEL 123 GR SST®
6605 50 CAL 300 GR FPB® 85507 6.5X55 140 GR SST® SPF
6600 50 CAL 350 GR FPB® 8346 6.8MM SPC 110 GR V-MAX®
6620 50 CAL 385 GR HB-HP 8347 6.8MM SPC 120 GR SST®
6950 50 CAL 485 HARD BALL SYSTEM 8078 7.62X39 123GR SST® STEEL
67269 50 CAL LNL® LOW DRAG¯ 250 MFX 8049 7.62X54R 150 SST® STEEL
67270 50 CAL LNL® SPD SABOT 250 SST® 80518 7.62X54R 174 GR BTHP
67271 50 CAL LNL® SPD SABOT 300 SST® 80591 7MM REM MAG 139 GR SP AW
6720 50 CAL SABOT 44 240 GR XTP® 80593 7MM REM MAG 139 SST®SPF
6727 50 CAL SABOT 45 240 GR XTP®MAG 80592 7MM REM MAG 139GR GMX®SPF
6726 50 CAL SABOT 45 300 GR XTP®MAG 8061 7MM REM MAG 154 SST® SPF
67274 50 CAL SABOT LOW DRAG¯250 MFX 80633 7MM REM MAG 162GR SST®SPF
67273 50 CAL SABOT LOW DRAG¯250 SST® 80576 7MM-08 REM 139 GR GMX®SPF
67263 50 CAL SABOT LOW DRAG¯300 SST® 8057 7MM-08 REM 139 GR SP AW
6724 50 CAL SABOT/45-250 HP/XTP 80573 7MM-08 REM 139GR SST® SPF
6751 50 CAL.452 HIGH VELOCITY SABOT 8155 7X57 MAUSER 139 GR BTSP
5155 500 CAL .510 570 GR DGS® 8229 8X57 JS 195 GR SP
5150 500 CAL .510 570 GR DGX® 90250 9MM LUGER 115 GR FTX® CD
50100 500 S&W .500 350 GR XTP® MAG¯ 90242 9MM LUGER 124 GR XTP®
5051 505 CAL .505 525 GR DGS® 90236 9MM LUGER 135GR CRIT DUTY
5050 505 CAL .505 525 GR DGX® 90282 9MM LUGER 147 GR XTP®
6095 54 CAL .520 LEAD BALLS 90226 9MM LUGER+P 135 CRIT DUTY
6100 54 CAL .530 LEAD BALLS 91000 9X18 MAK 95 GR FTX® CD

MT Gianni
07-08-2013, 10:41 PM
I doubt OLD TIMERS are the guilty ones.

Many of us live on a fixed income and can not possibly afford the NEW prices.

Being OLD TIMERS many of us looked ahead to retirement and decided on our limitations at that time.

No I am not interested in new toys.

Yes I have brass for every gun I own and moulds to fit every gun and a fair supply of components to last me till??

We have seen most of this many times before and did what we had to.

Now it looks like we will have to start classes to instruct new members to the fold or watch them self destruct due to ignorance.

Bill, I believe the post is referring to long time reloaders not to ones age.

462
07-08-2013, 10:43 PM
Okay, watched the video and read the letter. Still, it remains a simple case of supply and demand.

Moonman
07-09-2013, 06:19 AM
When a business experiences a 200% increase in DEMAND,

few could SUPPLY that demand immediately.

JUST THINK ABOUT AN ELECTRIC UTILITY.

If the business could meet the demand, they had TOO MUCH OVERCAPACITY to begin with,

and the COSTS associated with that and THEIR COMPETITORS EFFICIENCY would have DOOMED them.

JMHO

Down South
07-09-2013, 07:34 AM
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2013/07/hornady-suspends-production-of-150-ammo-types-and-150-bullet-types-for-balance-of-2013/
http://www.hornady.com/support/availability

Dannmann801
07-09-2013, 07:52 AM
They are ceasing production on some items to increase production on IN DEMAND ITEMS. You know, the items people are ordering the most of because THEY WANT THEM, and they are now backordered until the second coming.

And...nevermind.

Good post


What's the big deal? Why do we care? Don't we cast our own ???

Yep


Makes sense to me, I know how changeovers can limit production. I for one appreciate a company being up front with things.

Agreed


Yeah stop production on what the people want that's a great business plan if you live in the twilight zone. However it's their business so let them do what they want.

And THAT is the point - it's their business to run.
And somehow, I believe, in the end they'll come out just fine.
Good communication, good service, and great products - Hornady will be just fine.

Love Life
07-09-2013, 10:36 AM
I sure do like their 178 gr AMAX for the 308.

Blacksmith
07-09-2013, 04:35 PM
This just provides a shopping list for the price gougers. They will go buy up everything that is on the suspended list then offer it at twice the price.

BSalty
07-09-2013, 04:48 PM
Sux to be me, 4 of my major j-word of choice are on that list. 2 of which I will for sure run out of by the end of this summer.

Guess it's time to get those lead rounds dialed in this summer.

I for one appreciate Hornady being up front with this information. I will continue to be a loyal customer from them when they catch up. Until then I guess Sierra will be seeing more of my business in their comparable rounds.

Interesting times we live in gentlemen.