Found a 32 Special on Auction Arms

[jim4065]

And now I've gotta figure out how to feed it. It seems like good molds are mighty scarce - and it'll be at least 6 months (or more) before the "32/8mm GC Light" group buy pans out. The 8mm molds are mostly too pointy, and I don't know enough to order a custom at this point.

Decided to buy the correct head stamped brass - would hate to shove a 32 into the 30/30, it might chamber. :shock:

[woody1]

And now I've gotta figure out how to feed it. It seems like good molds are mighty scarce - and it'll be at least 6 months (or more) before the "32/8mm GC Light" group buy pans out. The 8mm molds are mostly too pointy, and I don't know enough to order a custom at this point.

Decided to buy the correct head stamped brass - would hate to shove a 32 into the 30/30, it might chamber. :shock:

Get the RCBS 32-170 FN. You'll not be disappointed. Regards, WOody

[Scrounger]

And now I've gotta figure out how to feed it. It seems like good molds are mighty scarce - and it'll be at least 6 months (or more) before the "32/8mm GC Light" group buy pans out. The 8mm molds are mostly too pointy, and I don't know enough to order a custom at this point.

Decided to buy the correct head stamped brass - would hate to shove a 32 into the 30/30, it might chamber. :shock:

First you have to figure out your bore size! A lot of the ".32s" have .318 bores...

[garandsrus]

Jim,

I don't think a 32 Special would chamber in a 30-30. The case neck is way too big. The 30-30 would chamber in a 32 Special though. I don't think it would be a safety issue though. You would probably end up with a fire formed case and not much else.

I can send you some of the RCBS 32-170 FN to try if you would like.

RCBS makes a set of "Cowboy Dies (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=340868&t=11082005)" for the 32 Special that are very nice. They are made for reloading lead boolits. The set includes an expander die. They look cool also...

John

[6pt-sika]

FWIW , I own three 32 Specials and a 32-40 . The bullets I cast for all three rifles are sized in a .323" die and they all seem to shoot very well .

I have used the RCBS 32-170 quite a bit with excellent results . And have also gotten a no longer manufactured Lyman GC mould that runs about 180 grains #321297 .

Now if I had a 150 grain FN GC mould I would be set for the 32 cals [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

My 32 Special dies are also the RCBS Cowboy dies . I own about 6 sets of the Cowboy dies in variouse calibers and have nothing but good things to say about them :drinks:

[corvette8n]

I loaded up 20 rounds of the Lee C324-175-R over 8gr of Unique, figured the recoil wouldn't be enough to set of a primer. I didn't keep track of my groups just send them down range at 50 yards to test function of rifle. I also bought 200
.323/195gr FNGC from Dan at the Bullshop but have yet to develop a load for them. I think Ranchdog is working on a tumble lube mold from Lee.
I'll shoot the Bullshop ones until that time comes.:-D

[jim4065]

Jim,

I don't think a 32 Special would chamber in a 30-30. The case neck is way too big. The 30-30 would chamber in a 32 Special though. I don't think it would be a safety issue though. You would probably end up with a fire formed case and not much else.

I can send you some of the RCBS 32-170 FN to try if you would like.

RCBS makes a set of "Cowboy Dies (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=340868&t=11082005)" for the 32 Special that are very nice. They are made for reloading lead boolits. The set includes an expander die. They look cool also...

John


Thanks for the offer, John. With the recommendations that this mold got - and lack of competition - I went ahead and ordered one from Midway. I saved enough by not buying the brass to more than cover it. Had quite a bit of nickel 30-30 brass that I'm going to try as 32 Special - should be able to keep 'em apart.

[Char-Gar]

True there is not allot of 32 W.S. molds out there, but the RCBS 170 is as good as it gets. It shoot like a house-a-fire in my Winchester Model 94.

[sundog]

RCBS 170-FN. If that won't shoot, you'll be hard pressed to find something that will.

Check load data on castpics if you have any 844 on hand.

M94 is a 16 twist which is especially friendly to cast boolits. I think the 32 Win Spl is superior to the 30-30.

[beagle]

I'll second sundog's allegation that the .32 Special is superior.

Yeah, I know what the ballistic tables say but take that 32-170-FN weighing in at 184 grains and it outstrips a .30/30 using the same weight bullet by a long shot when actually shooting things.

The old timers say that it shoots harder and I'm inclined to agree with that./beagle

[felix]

I will 3rd it. It's the twist, the throating, the RCBS boolit which makes the powder/primer easy to select. I have not found a pressure-time curve that did not shoot in the 94 winnie lever. No, we are not talking bench rest either, but just plain practical fun without any hassle whatsoever. 100 yard beer cans are no problem. ... felix

[WBH]

Fireforming nickel brass will borrow trouble. .308 to .323 will probably split the necks on nickel brass. You really can't anneal it. Buy new brass.

[corvette8n]

Midway has the brass in stock
Also get a C&R FFL and send to Midway you will then get dealer prices.

[Uncle R.]

No, we are not talking bench rest either, but just plain practical fun without any hassle whatsoever. 100 yard beer cans are no problem. ... felix


For the Luv Agawd - PLEASE tell me that those cans were EMPTY....

:-D

Uncle R.

[jim4065]

Midway has the brass in stock
Also get a C&R FFL and send to Midway you will then get dealer prices.

Dealer gets 10 cents off on 50 or $1.00 off on 500. The discount is a joke for brass and bullets.

[rr4406pak]

Some are .318 bores???
I have a box of Speer Hot-Cor Bullets 32 Winchester Special (321 Diameter) 170 Grain Jacketed Flat Nose. Will these be unsafe to shoot in my late-40's era Winchester 32 Special Model 94'?
Do I have to slug the barrel first?
Never heard of this .318 barrel thing... you have me worried now!
Thanks.

[MTWeatherman]

Let me 4th that positive statement on cast in the .32 Special...especially the Winchesters due to the guaranteed 16 inch twist.

rr44...I've never heard of a '94 Winchester with a .318 bore...although its certainly possible I guess. The tighter bore applies to Marlins...some indeed are .318.

Altlhough its always good to slug your bore, I can't see where you should have any concern about shooting those Speer bullets. Unless you have an unfired rifle, a .321 bullet is the bullet that Winchester has been digesting all these years. Just follow the usual loading precautions in working up the load.

[Dorf]

Beagle (or anyone else for that matter) if the dia. of this bullet is .321 out of the mould, can it be "beagled" to drop .324 or .325 slugs for use in the 8x57? I have rifles in both calibers and am trying to find a mould that will work for both calibers. Any and all info/comments are welcome. Thx, Stan

[felix]

Typically, that mold drops 325 with WW. I shoot 323 boolits in the winnie 32 with zero problem. Might can use 325 as well, but it shoots fine at 323. The military 8mm lands are quite tall, and should shoot a 323 boolit with zero problems as well. But, I would get two sizers, a 325 one for the military gun as well as the 323 one for the winnie. ... felix

[Dorf]

Felix-- Mucho Gracias!! Glad to hear that it tosses them in a size I can easily use.

[Bent Ramrod]

I believe it was some 8mm Mauser rifles that were made with .318" bores; most with .323". The nominal diameter for .32 Special is .321." I think they started making ammunition again a few years ago; I haven't had any trouble getting it.

[hydraulic]

I have a Lyman 323470 8mm mould that I use in my 32 Remington 1908 assualt rifle. I size them in a .325 sizing die and load 22 grains of AA2230 which operates the action. I was unsure about sizing them that large, but got assurances from Felix and the gang and they work just fine. The .32 Remington is just a rimless .32 WS.

[beagle]

Using two layers of tape, you might be able to get .324" out of it without finning. Just depends on the mould. Usually, I'm able to stretch about .003" out of a mould. After that, it gets iffey./beagle


Beagle (or anyone else for that matter) if the dia. of this bullet is .321 out of the mould, can it be "beagled" to drop .324 or .325 slugs for use in the 8x57? I have rifles in both calibers and am trying to find a mould that will work for both calibers. Any and all info/comments are welcome. Thx, Stan

[jtaylor1960]

The RCBS 32-170-fn may be a hair small in diameter as my 32 likes .323 bullets.RCBS makes a 8mm-170-fn which is special order.It is the same shape as the other bullet but has a .323 diameter. GARDNER'S CACHE sells both bullets at a good price if you would like to try one or both.

[johnly]

And now I've gotta figure out how to feed it. It seems like good molds are mighty scarce - and it'll be at least 6 months (or more) before the "32/8mm GC Light" group buy pans out. The 8mm molds are mostly too pointy, and I don't know enough to order a custom at this point.

Decided to buy the correct head stamped brass - would hate to shove a 32 into the 30/30, it might chamber. :shock:

Here are some links to 32 special molds:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270181079382
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170163601638

John

[Blammer]

so where can I get a 32 special rifle?

[IcerUSA]

Jim4065 , might want to look at this one also : http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=435560&t=11082005

RNFP PB 165grainer


Keith

[corvette8n]

Blammer
try auction arms or gun broker, but be prepared to pay some pretty hefty prices especially for the Win 94's. I got on from GB just a week before the factory closed, so I guess I lucked out as prices shot up after that.