H&R firing pin search (or drawings for one)

[Donor8x56r]

So I broke firing pin in my 38-55 Target model...

"Small problem" me thinks until I started calling around to find the replacement.

Of course nobody will ship it from US up to Canada ( except Numrich but paying 5-10 times the value in fees alone is not funny).

Up here nobody (shops,gunsmiths etc.) has it and no one has a clue if all H&R's use the same pin or how to even source it.

Question to Canadian forum members: would you know where I can get one(or two just in case)?

Maybe someone has proper shop drawings with all measurements?I have access to pretty good shop and can make one if I can provide drawings.

Thank you all :)

[barrabruce]

o.k.
This is what I ended up doing for the same reasons.

I guess you took out the broken pin.
If you haven't lost the broken end then use that for you specs and measurements

Find a drill bit the same diameter as the broken one and cut off the softer non machined hardened end.
Chuck in lathe or drill and use grinder /files/emery cloth to emulate the angle of the shoulder and pin diameter.
This is the time you can tighten up the gap a bit if the primers used to wanna ooze in there.
The pin when fully prodruding should be around 45 thou with a rounded end.
Please check for proper spec.
Trim the hammer side to length and cut the flat for the retainer pin.

It was trail and fit on mine a few times to get right.

un hardened the pin lasted several hundred rounds till I let some hmmm delightfull idiot shoot my gun and he didn't let his finger off the trigger letting the firing pin dinengage/retract and broke it.
And yes I was happy ans pee'd of with myself for letting him borrow it.

Probably make 2 pins out of a drill shank easy enough. at about $3-4 worth.
Hope it helps some
Bruce

Oops if you havn't the pin just find a drill that will fit in the rear of the breach and work on it that way.

The Grey beard guru's say that the pin shouldn't hit the end on the hole in the block and dry firing is a no no.
It tends to chisel away at the small thin area and it has been known to weaken and induce chacking,set bACK AND EVEN FAILURE in the firing pin hole breach face area.

cHEERS

[Skipper]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=73943&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xh%26r+firing +pin&_nkw=h%26r+firing+pin&_sacat=73943&_from=R40

[Mk42gunner]

I don't know about ALL of the H&R firing pins, but I used one from a 20 ga that was found in a salt marsh to replace the broken one in my H&R 158.

It has been a few years, but I think the firing pin and hammer block all had the same part numbers, except for maybe the 10 ga version. If you order a firing pin, you might as well include the hammer block and combine shipping.

Robert

[Goatwhiskers]

Just don't do like a fellow I encountered back in the day. Had a single barrel shotgun with a broken firing pin. Being the good Bubba that he was, he filed a new one out of a suitable sized nail. Got the protrusion wrong (long), first shot punctured the primer and blew the pin back out of the hole. "Nailed" him between the eyes, followed by some slow walking and sad singing. Moral: make your pin out of good steel. GW

[bstone5]

The best material I have found is to make the firing pin out of a Grade 8 Bolt.

Make a few for old 22 rim fire rifles and a few for old shot guns with exposed hammers.

The material is high strength and have not had any fail after a lot of firings.

[nanuk]

I think it was Nobade who said the torsion bars for car trunk lids works great, machines easy, and not heat treat required.

[nanuk]

VERY FEW Ebay Gun Parts dealers will ship to Canada.

tough enough finding sights and such... let alone parts to make it go boom

[akajun]

Doesnt brownells ship to canada? Also doesnt H&R have a lifetime warranty? Have you called them yet?

[Donor8x56r]

Doesnt brownells ship to canada? Also doesnt H&R have a lifetime warranty? Have you called them yet?

Yes,I did.They gave me ph# to place in Quebec-nobody is picking up the phone...

Brownells doesn't ship this particular part up here.

I guess I follow barabruce advice and just make one.

Lesson learned-don't buy new(er) guns-stick with old rifles like mausers,mosins etc.Ton of parts for them when needed.

[nanuk]

try that Canadian repair depot again

I have been in touch with them via email.... there really is someone there.

Gravel Agencies??

[sparkz]

Is it some restricted part?? is there some law,,
why can't anyone just mail you a Spare part

If these now law, drop ship it, and forward it as a spare part

Patrick

[richhodg66]

I may be able to help you. PM sent.

[Donor8x56r]

try that Canadian repair depot again

I have been in touch with them via email.... there really is someone there.

Gravel Agencies??

Yup,Please PM me their email.

As far as I know part is not restricted (only recivers,short barrels and full auto parts are)

Problem is with Federal agencies attempting to micromanage everything.

Same problems are with radio(advanced but even some short wave stuff is tuff),airplane,car,electronic,marine parts.Tons of paperwork for no reason.

I was told that truckers use to buy used trucks in US for decades-well,that's done because of red tape as well.

[Nobade]

All this may not help you. I ordered a new firing pin from Brownells for my Handi rifle, and what I got was a pin for a shotgun. Those are a lot larger diameter, and I had to turn it on the lathe to get it to fit. It would have been easier just to make one from scratch. If you have access to a lathe or know someone with one, and have the old pin, I would just make a new one. They are not a difficult shape.

-Nobade

[JIMinPHX]

Dry firing those Handi rifles does break the pins for some reason. My little brother found that out the hard way many years ago.

I don't remember all the details, but something about reassembling that mechanism after replacing the pin was weird. We had to make a special assembly tool or something. It was a long time ago. I don't really remember very well.

I think that there are at least 3 different types of pins. I think that the rimfire version is different from the two center fire types.