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country gent
07-03-2013, 12:18 AM
I have a new 45-90 im working with exclusivly now since I loaned the sharps to a friend to use. I have been working with 2 ff goex mostly and 500-550 grn paper patched bullets. I am thinking of trying 1f goex in it also what can I expect from the coarser powder? Velocity wise, compression charge, fouling? I have been getting in the 2 min area with groups at 20o yds. But the recoil with 2f is brisk would 1f cost me to much velocity? would it reduce recoil slightly? Or is my thinking way off base?

Nobade
07-03-2013, 07:42 AM
You'd have to try it to see, but it should give you slightly less recoil and velocity. Not a big difference in that big case, but some. It may prove to be more accurate, but consistent 2 MOA groups are pretty good already. Just have to do some experimenting.

-Nobade

Gunlaker
07-03-2013, 10:43 AM
I use 88gr of Goex Fg in my .45-90 with a 530gr Brooks Creedmoor bullet. I'm not sure What the velocity is, but I shoot the same bullet in m .45-70 over 74gr of Goex Fg and get 1200fps when wiping between shots.

I don't shoot regular Goex FFg, but the Express version so I cannot directly compare the two powders. It seems that I do get a bit more fouling with the Fg over Express FFg though.

Not sure if that's of any use to you.

Chris.

country gent
07-03-2013, 11:16 AM
Thats what Im looking for guys. I want to try and extend the strings I can fire before fatiuge and "punch drunk" set in. Thanks

MtGun44
07-03-2013, 12:50 PM
Mike Venturino has commented that the .45-90 is pretty hard on the shoulder
in a long string, and that this accounts for the popularity of the .45-70 -
comparing BP to BP.

I always liked the look of the .45-90, but have never shot one.

The military used cardboard tubes in .45-70 cartidges loaded for
the carbines with 55 gr powder to avoid an air space. Might work
for you.

Bill

sharpsguy
07-03-2013, 01:24 PM
You will notice three things. One is that the recoil will indeed be a bit less with the 1f as compared to the same amount of 2f. Another thing is that there will be more fouling with the 1f. The last thing you will notice is that you will be down about 50 fps in velocity with the 1f as compared to the same amount of 2f. This according to my Oehler 35P.

Matt85
07-03-2013, 08:15 PM
i tried 1F in my 45-70: the recoil was a little less, it fouled a little more, and the groups opened up some.

-matt

Don McDowell
07-03-2013, 10:44 PM
I think with a bit of load tweeking you'll be plumb happy with 1f in your rifle, I use it in the 45-85, and have ran up to 15 patched rounds with no blowtube or wiping and still maintain "gong" accuracy to 300 yds, which also translates to minute of elk at 200 and minute of antelope at 135.

country gent
07-03-2013, 11:25 PM
I think friday Ill pick up a couple pounds of 1f and give it a try. 85 grns with the 550 grn bullety is shooting good but recoil is "solid" after 10 rounds Im getting "tired".

sharpsguy
07-04-2013, 09:53 AM
Your bullet is too heavy. 550 grains is where most of your recoil comes from. Try a 500 grain bullet and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. And yes, the 500 grain bullet will shoot at 1000 yards just fine.

Don McDowell
07-04-2013, 03:14 PM
One of the lessons lost from the Old dead guys, if you look back at their ammunition, seldom was a bullet heavier than 500 grs used, and then usually only with powder charges exceeding 110 grs.