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GUNSLINGER1886
06-22-2013, 02:34 PM
I have recently acquired a new Lyman mold for my 45/70. It is a 535 gr round nose. I have already cast about 100 of these puppys with great success. The only problem is that I am lacking loading information. I have the Lyman 49th edition and a few other manuals, but can't seem to find and load info for a 535 gr cast in 45/70. I have a H & R Buffalo Classic that I plan on firing these from. I already have Varget and some Trailboss. Im guessing the Trailboss will be insufficient with such a heavy boolit, but I may be wrong just guessing. Has anybody ever fired heavy boolits with Varget?? If so I would def be interested in your experiences. Please share!

44MAG#1
06-23-2013, 02:55 PM
I have the 49th manual and Varget data is in it. Both Trapdoor and Ruger loads. Right there for 535 gr bullets.

blackpowder man
06-26-2013, 11:01 PM
I tried Varget with the Lee 500 grain. Seems like 38 grains did pretty good to duplicate Bp velocity.

bobthenailer
06-27-2013, 08:45 AM
The best smokless powder load i came up for my 45/70 with a saeco 540 gr bullet was 50grs of 4831, super accurate from my rifle better than moa out to at least 300 yards , thats the fartherest i tested it with a 6x20 leupold scope
Varget worked but to get accuracy the velocity was over 1,400 fps and to much recoil and not nearly as good accuracy as 50grs of 4831 powder.@1300 fps

CPL Lou
06-27-2013, 12:15 PM
The best smokless powder load i came up for my 45/70 with a saeco 540 gr bullet was 50grs of 4831, super accurate from my rifle better than moa out to at least 300 yards , thats the fartherest i tested it with a 6x20 leupold scope
Varget worked but to get accuracy the velocity was over 1,400 fps and to much recoil and not nearly as good accuracy as 50grs of 4831 powder.@1300 fps

Which 4831, IMR or H4831 ?

CPL Lou

bobthenailer
06-28-2013, 12:14 PM
I used H4831 but from my experinces in other rifles both will work excellent you just have to jiggle the load a little to hit the sweet spot