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exile
06-16-2013, 07:23 PM
I just placed an order for a Lee six cavity .452 200 grain TL semi-wadcutter mold for the .45 Auto. Anyone have any experience with these in a 1911 pistol? I was going to get a 230 grain truncated cone mold, but this one popped up. From my experience I enjoy the 200 grain weight boolit in the .44 Special more than the 240 grain, so I thought I would give this one a try.

My main concern is whether the 200 grain SWC will feed in a 1911 pattern pistol? I am pretty much decided on a tumble lube mold design, so that is not really an issue, just whether the 200 grain SWC will feed well?

Thanks for your input.

(And for those of you for whom it applies, Happy Father's Day)

sirAIG
06-16-2013, 10:12 PM
I know its not a 1911, or a 45... but my sig sp2022 in 40sw feeds SWC's all day long. it did, however, take me a couple of trial loads to figure out a proper OAL and crimp to get feeding reliable. I find backing off a tad on powder charge, and crimping tighter with a taper crimp is the ticket. the round still headspaces properly on the end of the case, and no feeding hiccups whatsoever.

Miata Mike
06-16-2013, 11:01 PM
I have shot lots of 200 grain SWC through my 1911's with no troubles, as long as the bullet is seated deep enough. Only a sliver of the shoulder should be showing above the case mouth. Too much and the slide will not go into battery. I have poured some Lee tumble lube 200 grain bullets like your mould you have coming, but I have never loaded them.

UweJ
06-16-2013, 11:43 PM
your 200 grainers shouldn´t give you any trouble, fired a few thou through my Springfield Trophy Match with no troubles.
Uwe

fordfan
06-17-2013, 12:20 AM
they shoot great in my milspec and xds

quasi
06-17-2013, 02:18 AM
they work fine in 1911's. I have a 6 cavity from the first year Lee made them, I have cast about 7 or 8 thousand boolits with it. I did not even lube the mould for the first 4,000 rds or so!

exile
06-17-2013, 06:01 PM
they work fine in 1911's. I have a 6 cavity from the first year Lee made them, I have cast about 7 or 8 thousand boolits with it. I did not even lube the mould for the first 4,000 rds or so!

Thanks guys I appreciate the responses.

exile

daniel lawecki
06-17-2013, 06:24 PM
I used that boolit in my 1911 fed great shot nice clays powder. And old timer sold those to me for 12.00 dollars per 500 boy I miss that.

williamwaco
06-17-2013, 06:43 PM
I use that bullet exclusively in my 1011's and have very good results.

exile
06-18-2013, 07:05 PM
73939

Shot it for the first time today, unfortunately with factory ammo, really enjoyed it, definately "minute of can" at 25 yards, very low recoil, nice trigger, fun to shoot. My wife enjoyed it, which is good since it is her gun.

Looking forward to getting that mold, take care guys.

exile

Brenden
06-18-2013, 10:05 PM
I've had feed issues with that bullet in my SR1911, maybe 1 in 50. That being said, they are extremely accurate.

3006mv
06-18-2013, 11:07 PM
Nice weapon man, but seriously get to loading them boolits.
I shoot about half of the lee 200s and half of their 230s out of my
RIAs and .45 acp revolvers. the 200s are faster and kick more
but always run well out of my pistols.
btw, what is it like to shoot a long slide? that is really long.
oh, sorry just realized you didn't get your molds yet. but when you do
get to it!

Rich/WIS
06-19-2013, 03:50 PM
Use the regular lube Lee in my SA Range Officer. Seating depth is important and you may need to experiment to see what works best for you. Had to do that with mine, had an occasional feed problem, round would start into the chamber and nose would get stuck on the top of the chamber. Tried a few different seating depths and the problem has gone away. The SWC is very accurate in my RO.

daniel lawecki
06-19-2013, 04:37 PM
I had a AMT long Slide In the 1980s had a oxford light sight took double aa batteries. Also had a Jim Clark mount that replaced the left grip drilled two holes in grip frame for that rig. It'll shoot SWC tl 200gr just fine.

exile
06-19-2013, 06:06 PM
I had a AMT long Slide In the 1980s had a oxford light sight took double aa batteries. Also had a Jim Clark mount that replaced the left grip drilled two holes in grip frame for that rig. It'll shoot SWC tl 200gr just fine.

Thanks guys. As this is our first 1911, any suggestions on magazines?

exile

williamwaco
06-19-2013, 10:17 PM
I have been lusting after a long slide since about 1970.

I have never even seen one "in real life".


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typz2slo
02-08-2014, 01:11 AM
I know this is an old thread but I have a RI 1911 that will eat everything i feed it. My Colt Commander does not like swc boolits at all.

Colohunter
02-16-2014, 12:54 AM
I just started casting with the Lee 200 SWC TL. I have a Springfield 1911 that shoots them just fine. I have a Para Ordinance SF45 with a ramped barrel that won't feed this bullet or a factory SWC bullet that I have tried.

jonp
02-17-2014, 12:21 PM
I've had mixed results with SWC Cast in a couple of 45ACP pistols. I had to play with the OAL a bit before I got them to feed and an XDS I was loading for simply would not load them at all no matter what I did.

Will they load? Only your pistol can tell you that and if they don't just pull the rest, melt them down and cast them as something else like a rnfp.

Colohunter
02-17-2014, 10:27 PM
Will they load? Only your pistol can tell you that and if they don't just pull the rest, melt them down and cast them as something else like a rnfp.

That's true, I like the SWCs in the pistol that shoots them well because they make very sharp holes. I've had several comments at IDPA matches how my holes look "bigger' than other 45s. One person even asked if I was shooting a 50 caliber pistol.

But my Para won't cycle more than a couple SWC bullets without jamming, so I don't even bother with them in that gun anymore.

Boolseye
02-24-2014, 10:15 PM
I have shot many of the Lee 452-200 SWC (standard groove) boolits in various .45s, and did have feeding issues in the 1911s, even my Springfield with a throated barrel (I throated the barrel myself on my RIA for feeding with SWCs).
Taper crimp must be firm, in my experience–I crimp at around .467", with a thumbnail of the top bearing surface exposed. Feeding problems went away.

Boogieman
02-24-2014, 11:18 PM
Had trouble getting SWC's to feed in my Colt O.M. Last round would stove pipe, I changed to mags with dimpled followers that helped some. was still having some problems . After many trials I found that a weak recoil spring was allowing the slide to hit the frame hard enough to shake the round loose from the mag. lips before the extractor could grab it. RN loads & long SWC's (H&G 68 style) feed ok, they are too long to move forward much. That Lee 200gr, SWC is very accurate out of both my Colts a 5" & 3.6". Some mfg's make special mags. to feed SWC's. 1911's will feed most boolits IF you get your O.A.L. right ,use a good mag,& have the extractor adjusted properly.

rintinglen
02-25-2014, 12:31 PM
I have shot lots of 200 grain SWC through my 1911's with no troubles, as long as the bullet is seated deep enough. Only a sliver of the shoulder should be showing above the case mouth. Too much and the slide will not go into battery. I have poured some Lee tumble lube 200 grain bullets like your mould you have coming, but I have never loaded them.
+1
I shot a lot of these through my Sig p220 with perfect satisfaction, once I figured out the correct OAL.

BIGRED
02-25-2014, 06:01 PM
my 1911's like them seated at 1.20" with .469 crimp. my buddies 1911 is real picky with them. won't reliably feed every round if seated @ 1.17" and anything longer than 1.22". i am now using some 230 rn tl and all of the 1911's gobble them up and i can seat @ 1.25" now.

Cherokee
02-25-2014, 11:23 PM
I like the AMT long slides, and they shoot the Lee 200 SWC just fine:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee102/DCS44256/Style%201911%20Auto/AMT45ACP702.jpg

Here is a LS upper I built up on a Para frame:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee102/DCS44256/Style%201911%20Auto/Para45ACP7in.jpg

propwashp47
02-25-2014, 11:39 PM
I have a a amt long slide I have that I have fired 10,000 h& g 200 grain swc with very good performance ,even cared it on patrol as a back up to my Springfield .I will be casting some lee 200 grain tumble lube swc and dust off the old girl .