Looking for a load for my 444Marlin using a 200 gn lead bullet.

[Neo]

Hi I am trying to find a load for my 444 Marlin using a 200 gn lead bullet I searched the web with out any luck i will be using ADI powder 2207 but any data that can help me will be much appreciate I seem too be only able to find data for jacketed bullets.:castmine:

[Neo]

Thanks too milkman for sending me some data from quickloads.

[Neo]

Thought I would put up the loads that were sent too me.

Here are two sets of results from Quickload. I'm sure that you know that Quickload gives a computer model not actual results. DO NOT start at the top end if you use the info. Lots of luck and let me know if you additional info. This info was generated with generic specs and a 22" barrel, so your results will only be somewhere in the ballpark.
Milkman
Cartridge : .444 Marlin
Bullet : .428, 200, RCBS FN 44-200-FN
Useable Case Capaci: 58.935 grain H2O = 3.827 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.628 inch = 66.75 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : ADI AR 2207

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 40.80 2022 1816 17474 3558 84.4 1.492
-18.0 82 41.82 2075 1912 18702 3684 85.9 1.446
-16.0 84 42.84 2128 2011 20012 3807 87.4 1.402
-14.0 86 43.86 2181 2112 21407 3925 88.8 1.360
-12.0 88 44.88 2233 2214 22894 4040 90.1 1.320
-10.0 90 45.90 2285 2320 24471 4151 91.4 1.281
-08.0 92 46.92 2338 2427 26170 4256 92.5 1.244
-06.0 94 47.94 2389 2536 27975 4357 93.6 1.209
-04.0 96 48.96 2441 2646 29901 4452 94.6 1.174
-02.0 98 49.98 2492 2759 31959 4541 95.5 1.142
+00.0 100 51.00 2544 2873 34159 4624 96.4 1.110
+02.0 102 52.02 2594 2989 36511 4700 97.1 1.080
+04.0 104 53.04 2645 3106 39014 4770 97.8 1.051
+06.0 106 54.06 2694 3224 41725 4833 98.3 1.023
+08.0 108 55.08 2744 3344 44616 4888 98.8 0.996 ! Near Maximum !
+10.0 110 56.10 2793 3465 47719 4937 99.2 0.969 ! Near Maximum !

I don't think you will get a lead boolit to these velocities with any accuracy.

like these results a lot better

Cartridge : .444 Marlin
Bullet : .428, 200, RCBS FN 44-200-FN
Useable Case Capaci: 58.935 grain H2O = 3.827 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.628 inch = 66.75 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : ADI AR 2207

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 63 32.00 1570 1095 9549 2400 68.5 1.970
-18.0 65 32.80 1611 1152 10105 2506 70.1 1.922
-16.0 66 33.60 1651 1211 10689 2613 71.7 1.876
-14.0 68 34.40 1692 1271 11302 2721 73.2 1.830
-12.0 69 35.20 1733 1334 11947 2828 74.7 1.786
-10.0 71 36.00 1774 1398 12625 2935 76.2 1.739
-08.0 72 36.80 1815 1463 13336 3041 77.7 1.694
-06.0 74 37.60 1856 1531 14085 3147 79.1 1.651
-04.0 76 38.40 1898 1600 14870 3251 80.5 1.609
-02.0 77 39.20 1939 1670 15695 3355 81.8 1.569
+00.0 79 40.00 1981 1742 16563 3457 83.1 1.530
+02.0 80 40.80 2022 1816 17474 3558 84.4 1.492
+04.0 82 41.60 2064 1891 18431 3657 85.6 1.456
+06.0 83 42.40 2105 1968 19437 3754 86.8 1.421
+08.0 85 43.20 2146 2046 20493 3849 87.9 1.387
+10.0 87 44.00 2188 2126 21606 3941 89.0 1.355