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A pause for the COZ
06-11-2013, 02:11 PM
Has any one done a Group buy for this mold LEE C312-155-2R?
I shoot these in every 30 cal gun I have and two cavities is not cutting it.

RoyEllis
06-11-2013, 02:49 PM
Look at NOE 311-155, it's the same as the Lee but has a small flat nose .113 meplat IIRC and I think it's available in 5cav blocks.

Moonie
06-11-2013, 03:23 PM
yea, but the Lee 155 is the perfect profile to feed in an AR, no flat point.

A pause for the COZ
06-11-2013, 03:51 PM
I bet I would not be the only guy to buy the C312-155-2R in a 5 cavity. In the last 6 months I bet I have shot well over 1000 of them.

338RemUltraMag
06-11-2013, 05:10 PM
I could use one in a 5 cav...

RoyEllis
06-11-2013, 06:50 PM
yea, but the Lee 155 is the perfect profile to feed in an AR, no flat point.

Guess we've been doing something wrong.....fired several thousand from a class 3 AK 47 without any problems, both semi and full auto.:coffeecom

historicfirearms
06-11-2013, 10:48 PM
The NOE boolit works good in four of my AKs, sks, and Garand. I don't see why it wouldn't work in an AR.

A pause for the COZ
06-12-2013, 04:40 AM
I will for sure try them. Wana send me a few????:grin:

HighHook
06-12-2013, 06:02 AM
That 5 cavity really spits them out... Thanks to swede at noe. Check out his website

garym1a2
06-12-2013, 06:34 AM
I want one too.

Has any one done a Group buy for this mold LEE C312-155-2R?
I shoot these in every 30 cal gun I have and two cavities is not cutting it.

Jupiter7
06-12-2013, 07:52 AM
It would be nice to have a higher quality and higher capacity mold for this bullet. 3/4cavity would be nice. I've shot probably 900 or so in 300blk guns. About to try in in my garand.

A pause for the COZ
06-12-2013, 04:05 PM
Look at NOE 311-155, it's the same as the Lee but has a small flat nose .113 meplat IIRC and I think it's available in 5cav blocks.

hehehe you know what? I got to looking in my stuff. I have that mold. I ordered mine sized at .314 to use it with my 303 Britt and 7.62x 39.
But the main bullet dimensions are the same.
Did not shoot worth a **** in my 303. I think they would do ok for 7.62 x39. But I found you have to seat them very deep to get them to chamber in 30 cal stuff.
Might be ok, just gives me the willys seating that deep.
Here you can see it catches on the rifling set at the proper seating depth. I will play with it a bit and see what they do.
I did try them in my 308 and results were ok I guess. Not near as well as the LEE bullet.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_8813_zps604948ff.jpg

As you can see they are similar, but the ogive ?? ( is that correct?) is set farther out on the NOE bullet. So they are in fact not the same.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_8815_zps1b61b956.jpg

Truth is though. I would prefer to have a bullet I already know shoots very well in all my guns and I dont have to fiddle with it.
C.E. Harris made a master piece with this one.

A pause for the COZ
06-12-2013, 04:54 PM
Ohh I probably should have prefaced my comments. My main use for the C312-155-2R is in my 300 Black out, I also shoot them in 308 win, 30-30 bolts gun, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54.
I had not really reloaded that much for 7.62x39 since chasing brass is no fun. But that may change, since I have not seen any cheap ammo in a long time and my supply is running low.
I know the C312-155-2R works well in my SKS ahead of RL-7. I will try the NOE bullet in it. If nothing else maybe it will save on the C312-155-2R supply.

Wayne S
06-12-2013, 07:26 PM
The NOE 311-155 functions flawlessly in my M1A, and I'll be testing it in an AR-10 soon.

A pause for the COZ
06-12-2013, 10:58 PM
I did load up a few NOE 311-155's for my SKS and they feed just fine. So at least I will be able to cover that side. I suspect they will work just as well in my Mosin Nagant's.
Actually they look like a natural fit for the 7.62 x39

My main point still stands. I would love to buy a 5 cavity C312-155-2R. At least now I wont die waiting the year to get it.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_8816_zpsb1976323.jpg

xacex
06-13-2013, 01:03 AM
I would buy a C.E. Harris design, but even though the NOE is still available I don't like how far away it is from the original design. I wont buy the NOE mold. The Lee C312-155-2R works why mess with the design? The thought of getting a couple more Lee mold in this design has crossed my mind. I can rotate them on the hot plate and just keep a constant stream of lead flowing.

A pause for the COZ
06-13-2013, 01:32 AM
one question I have for those of you who have set up group buys before:
#1 would a manufacturer be able to copy the C.E Harris design as is or would it have to be changed?
I have a order in on a group buy for a mold that is almost exactly the same as the Lyman 452374 but some slight changes were made to the lube grooves.
I assume to make it unique.

#2 How much interest has to be shown before we could get some made????

I would get a Plain Based version too.

Wayne S
06-13-2013, 03:20 AM
Pause,
.Who would be able to cut such a mold ? NOE & MeHic are the only two that are making 4 & 5 cavity molds.
One would think Lee would have offered a 6 cavity after the first "panic" buying in 09.
NEI , I believe offer the Harris design in at least a 4 cavity
Since NOE had several copies of the Harris design, why not ask them why they changed the nose profile ??

A pause for the COZ
06-13-2013, 03:41 AM
Are you saying they had made this mold before? Maybe they still have the cutters around...
I dont really know how this all works. I usually just see a group buy for some thing that looks good and jump in.

Wayne S
06-13-2013, 09:52 AM
"they" they who ?? Look at the NEI molds catalog , page 5

A pause for the COZ
06-13-2013, 02:31 PM
Close.. The 311-155 Looks just like the NOE 311-155 but has a pointy tip.That one I already know is not what I want. They have a 308-155 that looks closer but maybe a little too narrow. I would swing the $200 for a 6 cavity if I knew it was what i wanted.

Oh I did shoot those NOE 311-155's out of my SKS today. They shoot really really well in that gun. I shot a few in my 300 Black out and they did not do as well. Not near as versatile as the LEE bullet. The LEE bullet has the two radius's but it is set back farther letting it work in 308 stuff.

So if nothing else I have re discovered a SKS bullet. Maybe I will just buy a 2nd LEE mold and see if I can engineer some handles to let me use two at a time... Wonder how bad I could screw that up?

Wayne S
06-13-2013, 11:14 PM
The LBT Vern may be talked into cutting you what you want

Dschuttig
06-14-2013, 11:53 PM
Veral doesn't due true custom designs. He will cut a version that is close based his patterns. I would just put it in the active group buy for a mihec or noe multi cavity copy of the ce harris design. I bet you would get quite a few to sign up. Then just see who wants to cut it.

This may be something else to look at: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?39054-Lee-6-Cavity-7-62x39-140-grain-Spitzer&p=424528#post424528

I have the 6 cavity lee mold. It drops at .3145 and nearly matches the profile of the x39 and 7.62x45 czech.

Fishman
06-16-2013, 10:16 PM
I wonder if JT of Heavymetal moulds would consider making this. I think his mould dimensions would fit four, maybe five .30 boolits.

A pause for the COZ
06-18-2013, 01:29 AM
Looks like some one else is hoping on this band wagon too.
Looks like he has some one willing to honcho.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?203164-300-Blackout-boolet

Fishman
06-19-2013, 11:22 PM
Stop in at JT's thread requesting feedback on what boolit design to make next and vote for this one.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?203843-Do-Want-what-boolit-do-you-want&p=2268823#post2268823

mroliver77
06-20-2013, 02:22 AM
Maybe I will just buy a 2nd LEE mold and see if I can engineer some handles to let me use two at a time... Wonder how bad I could screw that up?

Have you ever read about the Bruce B speed casting method? Basically it is getting your casting bench arranged to reduce your movement to a minimum.(Good idea anyhow) Use a shallow pan filled with a towel or rag well soaked in water. Alloy just hot enough to cast well. When I am up and running I pour, touch bottom of mold to wet rag, sprue hardens instantly.depending on how it is going I either cut sprue or flip mold for a one or two count on wet cloth then cut.
Once you have the rhythm you can really make boolits with a two cavity. I am constantly in motion and not waiting for cool time or changing molds etc. I ever remove the mold from my left hand while casting. My rap stick is always in my right. I keep a hotplate to prewarm ingots or a second pot of melted alloy if I am doing a big batch. I prefer a larger mold but even a single cavity dropping one every ten seconds gets a pile rather quickly.
J