I hope these shoot as good as they look! RCBS 55 gr

[Brother_Love]

I will find out tomorrow morning. My targets are up, spotting scope in place and I will be sitting at the bench at around 8:30. I will have my Remington 722 and a cup of coffee as I begin to lob these downrange. I have high hopes for this rifle. Hope I won't be disappointed. These are 55 gr cast from a RCBS mold.

Malcolm

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[MaineJim]

Keep us posted with the results,load,etc and good luck!

[725]

Interested in all the data & results.

[FLHTC]

You need a radius on your top punch. Or is that from your seating stem?
I found the breaking point for accuracy with that bullet in a 223 to be around 2000 fps.

[Prodigal Son]

Is that a 222 rem cartridge you have them loaded in?

[Jack Stanley]

I sent the last of mine cast from a borrowed mold downrange last month . It was pretty easy to get good accuracy with in a Remington and three Savages . Currently working with some other designs but going to try the older RCBS cousin to that soon I hope .

Jack

[Bullshop]

""""I found the breaking point for accuracy with that bullet in a 223 to be around 2000 fps. """"
What you found was for your gun with your components with your alloy and your casting skills and your loading equipment and your skills in using them and likely a couple other things I left out.
That accuracy breaking point you established may have little or nothing to do with anyone else when any one or more of those things are changed.

[FLHTC]

""""I found the breaking point for accuracy with that bullet in a 223 to be around 2000 fps. """"
What you found was for your gun with your components with your alloy and your casting skills and your loading equipment and your skills in using them and likely a couple other things I left out.
That accuracy breaking point you established may have little or nothing to do with anyone else when any one or more of those things are changed.

Did i say otherwise? I was just stating what i found with the 223. Geeze another zipcode

[Bullshop]

The way you worded it seemed like a blanket statement to me. Please explain what you mean by "" Geeze another zipcode""
If I an experience boolit user and knowing otherwise took your statement to mean that what you found was being suggested as an absolute how difficult it must be for beginners to sort out false claims and or poorly communicated results.
What you found was """ THE """breaking point for accuracy for your gun, components etc. and not ""THE "" breaking point for the boolit design which is the idea I got when I read the post.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

...and likely a couple other things I left out.

you left out lube !
how could you leave out lube :wink:

A newbie (like myself not too long ago) could get a cold shot fouler flier or a cyclical excess lube clearing flier in his/her groups and may think...that darn boolit just can't be pushed that fast. Or just plain out Lube inadequacies.

and lastly, sometimes I need to drag out some tried and true j-word loads to confirm it isn't the finger on the end of my ham fist.
Jon

[Bullshop]

Oh my! Please forgive my forgetfulness. I sometimes forget there are other lubes besides Lotak.

[nhrifle]

I have the NOE clone of that RCBS mould and they feed and function well in my 20" barelled AR. No leading so far (fingers crossed). Accuracy has been good but still needs some tweaking, both with Varget and IMR4064. Unfortunately I don't have a chrony so I can't post any velocities.

[Bullshop]

Did i say otherwise? I was just stating what i found with the 223. Geeze another zipcode
Since this gentleman seems to have abandoned this discussion will someone take a stab at what he meant by the """ geeze another zip code""" remark?
I have an idea its something derogatory but being a simple minded sort I don't really know. Is it a new in vogue insult or something like that? Or maybe it is a compliment to my vast boolit knowledge or something like that. Tell me the truth I can take it.

[btroj]

It may well mean you are too old to understand both his comment initially and then his rebuke.

Don't feel bad, I am in the same old boat.

Just because it doesn't work for one doesn't mean it can't work for someone else. Just the same it may work for you and not for me.

This is why we TRY new things, isn't it?

[mroliver77]

In another discussion it was pointed out that most of those with high post counts disagreed with his stance. He said even though they have post counts that look like zipcodes...........

[btroj]

Ah, the new guy who knows it all. We really like those around here.

Maybe he should know that only 11 people here qualify as a "zip code" and none of them posted on this thread.

[Bullshop]

OH OK I get it now. I am not offended by it. Some folks are so easily offended by others not agreeing with their point of view. This is a discussion board and I believe is what we are here to do, to discuss varying points of view to come to a more knowledgeable point of view.
It seems as though our views are not different just misunderstood.
Much of this that seems obvious to some is elusive to others. When I was starting out I read such blanket statements as what I thought was being made here from the sources that we relied on like Lyman. In my own learning experience I found many of the old accepted beliefs not true so it can be hard for beginners reading some of the same old info sources.
I am sorry that my pointing out what may be obvious and needs not to be said to many with much experience has offended. There are however many with far less experience that it may help eliminate some confusion for.
Plainly put I took the statement to mean that there had been a 2000 fps accuracy limit put on the boolit design and I was trying to point out that it was not a limit.

[runfiverun]

i'm not reading this, i'm not reading this....la,la,la,
there definitely is not a 2-k fps ceiling on the rcbs-055s boolit.

if you just cast a couple of pounds of them and lump them all in one pile and shoot them all together then yeah 2-k is probably gonna be about all you get as far as keeping them in the same area on the paper.

if you want the higher velocity's [or better accuracy] you will have to put out more effort than that, but that is how it works with everything ain't it.

[nanuk]

I've got a 219 Hornet, that I'm thinking I am gonna ream to K

it has a 1/16 twist

I am hoping I can get a little more than 2k out of it.

I'm trading off my RCBS22-055FN so I can afford the NOE 225107. in the future, I may go heavier... not sure how heavy I can go though!

With the PB/CU alloy, I should be able to turn it into a nice Moose Gun! :kidding:

[Bullshop]

Maybe so. I used my Ruger single six in 22 ccm for the finishing shot on a large bull moose. It was loaded with the original RCBS 55gn but modified to 50gn PB. It clocked 1330 fps from the 6" barrel. The shot was to the top of the head angling downward to the throat. When we ate the toung we found the bullet and it was about half its original weight.
A moose load?

[Love Life]

So....... Let us know how they shoot. I have been off and on considering casting for my .223 and have been eyballing this boolit.

To answer Bullshop-Yes, there is another lube besides Lotak. It is Speed Green dontcha know!

[Alan in Vermont]

A moose load?

Based on the premis(sp) that shot placement is everything and you can get to single digit (in feet) range and the critter holds still you have obviously proven that it is. If the above conditions cannot be met,,,,, maybe/probably/most likely,,,, NOT!

I have proven that 158 gr lead SWCs driven to what was probably 38 Sp. +P velocities out of a 357 will not reliably kill domestic sheep. That is with frontal shots. They bounced off, knocked the critter to its knees, the bullet thumped on the barn wall and was later found on the floor. Once I smartened up and put the round in the back of the head it was a bangflop.

Shot placement is everything.

[jimb16]

Another zip code? Mine must be more like an area code! *LOL*

[Nrut]

I will find out tomorrow morning. My targets are up, spotting scope in place and I will be sitting at the bench at around 8:30. I will have my Remington 722 and a cup of coffee as I begin to lob these downrange. I have high hopes for this rifle. Hope I won't be disappointed. These are 55 gr cast from a RCBS mold.

Malcolm

So how did your loads turn out Malcolm?

What powder and alloy are you using?

Earlier this spring I loaded up around 100 of these same bullets sized .227" over different charges (18.4grs. to 23.7grs) of W748 for my .222 Sako..
Only shot them at 50 yards with 5 shot groups running from .68" to 1.37"..

Used reformed .223 brass and didn't resize them after fire forming..
The .227" is hand started and finished seating in the seating die..

The darn Sako has a large bore .219"+ and the nose on my NOE is only .218"..
Not good!

Just got a Mihec 65 gr. Nato mold to try and have to order a .227 lube/sizing die as hand lubing is the pits..
Can't wait to get the lube/sizer die as shooting these little bullets is a hoot!

[NLS1]

Maybe so. I used my Ruger single six in 22 ccm for the finishing shot on a large bull moose. It was loaded with the original RCBS 55gn but modified to 50gn PB. It clocked 1330 fps from the 6" barrel. The shot was to the top of the head angling downward to the throat. When we ate the toung we found the bullet and it was about half its original weight.
A moose load?

Mouse load, and moose load in the same cartridge, good stuff! Boolits really are versatile!
Dan

[725]

Carry on as you will, but I prefer the free and easy exchange of conversation to the vitriol sometimes observed. That's why I like this site.

[Brother_Love]

Well, it took me longer than I thought to get to the range. Just as started shooting it began to rain. I hurriedly set up a 50 yd target and got this group. This may be my new turtle load for the lake. What surprised me is I shot a piece of 1/4" thick angle iron at about 20 yards and expected a splatter, it went clean through. Them is tough little cast boolits! Malcolm

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[Low Budget Shooter]

Nice!

[Nrut]

Yes that is nice.
Looks like it would make a good rabbit load also so I will be giving it a try in my .222..

[Olevern]

mean-spirited, rude and insensitive. JMHO

[frnkeore]

Ya, Moose or Grizzly, too. One shot kills, even with a 22rf. All you have to do is shoot them in the eye when they are looking at you. BUT, don't miss :)

Frank