Buckshot in 410 brass hulls

[SpotHound]

I am trying to work out what buckshot would stack in layers of 3 inside a brass 410 case.

The nominal inside diameter for magtech hulls is .430" I think.

Spot

[Andrew Mason]

Well, I can tell you .177 dia BB shot stacks in layers of 4

I would look at T shot

[Andrew Mason]

Okay,
By my calculation, #4 buck will stack in layers of 3 in your .430" brass hulls

[koehlerrk]

Okay,
By my calculation, #4 buck will stack in layers of 3 in your .430" brass hulls

Well, I just tried that with some magtech hulls and #4 buck... it didn't fit worth a darn, too big. Maybe F shot would work better....

[SpotHound]

I tried BB and it DOES go in rows of 4, with a neat hole up the centre.

[Andrew Mason]

Well, I just tried that with some magtech hulls and #4 buck... it didn't fit worth a darn, too big. Maybe F shot would work better....

Hummmm
I will have to get my hands on some #4 buck to try it.

When I was looking for shot sizes, F did like the safe bet.

[Hogtamer]

Ya'll are not talking buckshot. #4 buck diameter is .240 inches and is the smallest size considered "buckshot." You might look at 3 - 4 000 buckshot (.360 diameter) stacked one on top of the other. Federal has a 3" shell with 5 pellets and a 2 1/2 " with 4. Awesome load out of full choke .410

[Andrew Mason]

what is the weight of a single #4 buck pellet?

the 00 buck i cast out my lee mold is about 50 or 55, i cant recall.

but anyway, my point is, to stay with the name "buck shot" is a .24 caliber, or in the case of "F" shot, wich might be chosen by the OP,
are they enough to kill a deer?


i love to make interesteing loads for my girlfriends cylinder bore 410 shotgun, so i load a "buck shot" load with 3 .41 cal round balls.

[flounderman]

I have seen a lot of deer die with one 00 buck. I don't know what velocity you can get from a 410 with 3 or 4 000 buck but if you can equal 12 ga velocity, each pellet should have the same effect as one fired from a 12 ga. Without patterning I couldn't say if the shot would hold a tighter pattern because it was coming out of a tight tube in single file as opposed to coming out as a group in a 12 ga. I would think you would get less dispersion from the 410. I loaded some hot 12 ga loads with I believe 8 00 a few years ago and dropped deer at ranges well beyond what the armchair experts claim . A 40 cal. ball at 1500 would be a deadly projectile. Two would be twice that. I don't know what velocity you can get from a 410 without using a brass rifle case with a thicker head, but it will kill a deer. How far away would depend on the velocity and pattern density. It wouldn't be my first choice, but if it was all I had, I could make it work.

[Andrew Mason]

I don't want to hijack this thread,
But I do have my own that I started that discusses velocities I achieved with my .40 cal round ball 410 loads

[Treeman]

Hogtamer, More that one source considers B, BB, F, and T as buckshot in addition to 000- 4 buckshot sizes. Makes you wonder about all the other letters and No 2 Buck of which never have I heard nor read..... FWIW My Grandfather who was a surpassing fine woodsman considered BB the ideal size for deer(probably worth noting that he hunted in the Florida Everglades so the deer were not large)

[Andrew Mason]

SpotHound

what was your intended purpose with the shot?

[SpotHound]

Hunting kangaroos

[Andrew Mason]

What's the average weight of a roo?

50 kilos?

I think lead Fshot, or even lead BB should would be fine.

[SpotHound]

About 6 foot high, i can barely lift a big male, will google for you.

[SpotHound]

Scientific Name: Macropus fuliginosus
Conservation Status: Least Concern
Body Length: 94–222 cm
Weight: 30–53.5 kg
Gestation: 30 days
Number of young: 1

[SpotHound]

he western grey kangaroo is one of the largest kangaroos in Australia. It weighs 28–54 kg and its length is 0.84–1.1m with a 80–100 cm tail, standing approximately 1.3m tall.[3] It exhibits sexual dimorphism with the male up to twice the size of female. It has thick, coarse fur with colour ranging from pale grey to brown; its throat, chest and belly have a paler colour.[4] It feeds at night, mainly on grasses but also on leafy shrubs and low trees. It has a nickname stinker because mature males have a distinctive curry-like odour.[5]

[Andrew Mason]

Well, would say that "F" shot stacked in layers if 3 should work just fine.
Size F is .22" with 40 pellets per oz
Or, if you went to BB shot, at .18" diameter, and 72 pellets per oz