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Phineas Bluster
05-14-2013, 07:08 PM
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labradigger1
05-14-2013, 07:15 PM
i dont have any load data with me at work but will sat that buffer will help the load tremendously.

SuperBlazingSabots
05-14-2013, 07:30 PM
Greetings Phineas Bluster, hoping it helps:
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Hogtamer
05-14-2013, 08:37 PM
#4buck weighs in at about 22 pellets per oz. they will stack 4 to a layer in your wad. Use your old manuals to load according to weight of shot same as if you we're loading #8. Use of buffer will help protect against distortion, overshot card over wad needed with buffer will help with pattern too.

35remington
05-15-2013, 09:43 PM
Claybuster makes a WAA12R clone wad.

FWIW.

An ounce of payload isn't an ounce of payload if the wads are different and if said ounce takes up more room. There is more wasted space with 4 buck than #8's, and a wad that comfortably fits one ounce of 8's will have a hard time fitting the same amount of 4 buck....often you'll have to go to the next larger shot cup size.

When you do, you change the wad's crush length to a shorter distance, which means the powder gasses have less distance to expand before they make the overpowder cup hit the bottom of the shot. So use caution in the substitutions and be aware of the role wad changes have in developing pressures, especially with the fast powders and experimentation with shot weights and wads that are not ordinarily used together.

For instance, finding a load for the WAA12 wad that uses 1 1/8 ounce shot and substituting 9 0 buck means you're using one ounce of buck in the 1 1/8 ounce load. This is sensible.

The other way around, where you substitute a load with a WAA12 wad with one ounce of buck for a one ounce load using the WAASL (pink) wad is less sensible due to the longer crush section of the WAASL. Same wad, less shot weight is okay. The other is possibly less so especially if pressures are high to begin with. Since you have no pressure gun, guessing that wad substitution is okay when crush sections differ in identical weights of payload is more risky.