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USMC87
05-11-2013, 06:46 PM
I have been using a RCBS press mounted swager and it is wearing me out, What do you use and how do you rate it. I'm trying to get some input on what to look for to help out the process and speed up the process if possible.

WVHunter129
05-11-2013, 06:55 PM
I have the Lyman electric prep station and I use the reamer on it to take out the primer pocket crimp, but I have seen people use the LEE chamfering tool to remove the primer crimp as well. The Lyman electric prep station is very nice!! I can process a lot of brass with it compared to doing it my old way...by hand!

lars1367
05-11-2013, 07:08 PM
Right now I'm using a $1 countersink bit from HFT to remove the crimp; you get what you pay for. I'd like to upgrade to a Dillon or RCBS pocket swaging setup, but I guess they are slower than a chamfering tool or countersink bit.
-Lars

Dan Cash
05-11-2013, 07:48 PM
Dillon swage. I have tried other methods over the last 50 years but came to this about 10 years ago. Don't need to look farther.

country gent
05-11-2013, 07:50 PM
Im using the dillion super swage now and until I find something better. I have used reamers, The rcbs press mounted swage, deburring tools both standard wilson and VLD. The dillion is heads above everything else I have used so far. After thousands of rounds of mil surpluss 308 and 223 ( high power shooter 3 family members competeing) The dillion has done a bunch

BD
05-11-2013, 08:48 PM
Dillon

bbqncigars
05-11-2013, 09:04 PM
Wilson primer pocket reamer tool in a Wilson case trimmer. It leaves a nicely radiused edge to the pocket, can not deepen pocket or deform the case rim. I have one for every primer size I load, and they're cheaper and smaller than having a dedicated pocket swager.

USMC87
05-11-2013, 09:05 PM
I saw that the RCBS copy of Dillon is lacking on standing up to the job, They say the cast aluminum body starts to wallow out. I have been leaning toward Dillon just did'nt know if there was anything better.

Kevin Rohrer
05-11-2013, 09:10 PM
Dillon Swager.

Firebricker
05-11-2013, 09:10 PM
I use the Dillion 600 and like it real well. If you go with the Dillion check out the youtube vidio of the rubber band mod. FB

bruce drake
05-11-2013, 09:32 PM
1/4 drill bit in a cordless drill. Does Small Rifle as well as Large Rifle Primer holes. Just touch it to remove the primer crimp and keep going to the next case in the batch.

bgoff_ak
05-11-2013, 10:06 PM
chamfer tool on a drill, makes it go really fast. i have a pocket swag tool also just depends on how many you want to do. one is 100X faster then the other.

Mk42gunner
05-11-2013, 10:25 PM
Dillon. I bought it when I had the extra cash and access to a lot of milsurp brass.

Robert

FishingFool
05-11-2013, 11:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34sRku4ASY

gunoil
05-11-2013, 11:23 PM
a 1050!





i wish.

sirgknight
05-12-2013, 12:02 AM
I use the Lyman deburring tool. It's attached to the rotary holder which runs in my drill press. Just a touch removes the crimp.

http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/case-prep/deburring-tool.php
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251221268853?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

TangoDownPro
05-12-2013, 01:23 AM
chamfer tool on a drill, makes it go really fast. i have a pocket swag tool also just depends on how many you want to do. one is 100X faster then the other.

^^ This. I use the L.E. Wilson chamfer/debur tool on a drill. Works great.

Love Life
05-12-2013, 01:31 AM
Super 1050 followed closely by the super swage followed closely by a chamfer tool chucked in a drill.

dauntlessdave
05-12-2013, 04:10 AM
I use both the Dillon 600 Swager and a Weldon DB-18-90 degree countersink for quick jobs. The Dillon 600 works great but for quick jobs or touchups, the Weldon countersink attached to a cordless drill is indispensable. Bought a bag of 10 or so on Ebay for short money.

Shedhunter
05-12-2013, 09:27 AM
I have the RCBS bench mounted swager and it works good. No problems so far but I have not done thousands of rounds yet.

Kull
05-12-2013, 09:29 AM
Dillon.

dudel
05-12-2013, 05:06 PM
chamfer tool on a drill, makes it go really fast. i have a pocket swag tool also just depends on how many you want to do. one is 100X faster then the other.

Wilson chamfer / deburr tool in a drill press. A quick push is all it needs. I have the RCBC swager as well, but it a pain on .223 cases.

bgoff_ak
05-12-2013, 09:59 PM
Wilson chamfer / deburr tool in a drill press. A quick push is all it needs. I have the RCBS swager as well, but it a pain on .223 cases.

I think we all have one of those stuck in a cupboard some place... what a good idea on paper and what a PITA in practice. i used it on a few nickel and then put the thing away...

glad i wasnt the only red neck in the group using a drill and a deburr tool...

scarry scarney
05-12-2013, 10:31 PM
Just like others have said, I've tried a demurring tool, chamfer tool, RCBS swage die, and now I use a Dillon. I should of gotten the Dillon a long time ago.

Rockchucker
05-13-2013, 07:19 PM
I use the Dillion 600

USMC87
05-13-2013, 11:03 PM
Grafs has the Dillon 600 in stock so I might as well get it and be done with it.

Mk42gunner
05-13-2013, 11:51 PM
One thing about it, the Dillon is a one time purchase.

Robert

weasel 21
05-14-2013, 12:56 AM
+++ on Dillon.

Lead Fred
05-14-2013, 05:52 AM
RCBS primer pocket uniformer in an electric drill.

Ive done over 6000 or my 10k LC odd six cases, and its still going strong

hd09
05-14-2013, 06:21 AM
I did about a thousand 223 several years ago with an old lyman hand reamer, was not fun. One day I'll get a dillon when money gets better.

LynC2
05-14-2013, 08:59 AM
Im using the dillion super swage now and until I find something better. I have used reamers, The rcbs press mounted swage, deburring tools both standard wilson and VLD. The dillion is heads above everything else I have used so far. After thousands of rounds of mil surpluss 308 and 223 ( high power shooter 3 family members competeing) The dillion has done a bunch

My exact experience also after trying everything else. Shooting HP ensures one going through a lot of brass!

USMC87
05-14-2013, 06:20 PM
Just ordered a Dillon 600 from Grafs and can't wait to try it out on a barrel of brass, I'll let ya know how it works out for me.

creophus
05-15-2013, 01:49 PM
Another vote for Dillon's Super Swage.

Jailer
05-15-2013, 09:28 PM
Dillon

Artful
05-15-2013, 09:46 PM
I started with a pocket knife, worked up to deburring tool in a drill, got RCBS press swage setup, then moved up to the Dillon swage - If I wind the lottery I'll get the Dillon 1050

max range
05-16-2013, 12:29 AM
Dillon swager. No guess work about if you cut too much or too little. You can do 500 pcs so fast you will be looking for more. Many decades I used drill motors, drill presses, counter sinks, reamers etc, etc. Nothing does it so well so quickly. The devise is way over engineered durability wise, and is a pleasure to use. No hand cramps, no fumbling. (Stepping off the soap box now).

Hard_Cast
05-16-2013, 01:54 AM
The RCBS swager is great, but its too slow for me, and I like a radius-ed pocket to ease primer seating. I've gone back to just using the deburring tool, as even after swaging, I used it to once again ease primer seating. You only have to perform this once on a case, so why not get it over with!

coleman
05-17-2013, 04:35 AM
Dillon is the way i went and wont go back to any other.

45 acp
05-17-2013, 06:56 AM
Started with the rcbs then tried a buddy's dillon.

Get a Dillon.

km101
05-17-2013, 04:33 PM
RCBS press swaging setup for now. I'll get a Dillon Super Swage as soon as I can find one! No one has them in stock right now.

bikerbeans
05-18-2013, 07:30 AM
Dillon super swager. I turn on my lead pot and decrimp 5.56 brass while I wait for the pot to come up to temp. By the time the pot is ready to go, I am tired of swaging brass.

BB

zuke
05-20-2013, 07:31 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-In-1-Hex-Bit-Countersink-Tool-wood-metal-PVC-World-Ship-Free-U-S-Shipping-/150968562849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23266d74a1#ht_1771wt_928

armedmoose
05-20-2013, 10:14 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who suggested a Countersink bit... $3.50, 50 pcs of .308 Brass completed in 3 minutes. (Or the same amount of time it takes the wife to put shoes on the twins)

This is after using my Lyman handtool.. that was causing me fits by not removing the crimp enough trying to seat primers :(. After "countersinking" my brass.. primers fit perfect and no more issues seating.

Again.. I can't express how awesome the countersink bit is after having the frustration with the lyman handtool. The added bonus of living out in the sticks and the local hardware store had the bit.

Coug91
05-21-2013, 11:34 PM
I had a Dillon swager several years ago, but never used it. So, when we moved I sold it. When I started making 300BLK brass, I used the RCBS press mounted tool and it worked fine, but slow. So I upgraded to the RCBS bench top swager and have been quite happy. Now, I'm upgrading again and will use my CTS trimmer's secondary drive to ream the primer pockets as I trim the case to final length.

Firebricker
05-22-2013, 11:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGOSrjbssw
Here's another mod idea. FB

chadfarmer
05-22-2013, 05:20 PM
Dillon super swager , thanks now I have to go do all my 223 since I am thinking about it

otter5555
05-22-2013, 09:01 PM
.155 drill bit in a cordless drill
been using the same bit since the 70's (but many different drills)
fast and does a perfect job
just a touch is all it takes

Dale in Louisiana
06-01-2013, 06:54 PM
I bought the Dillon back when I was shooting a lot of CMP matches and they sold GI ammo if you wanted it.

I've used it on GI .30-06 and .7.62x51. The swager is fast and powerful. If you don't pay attention and push the handle before the case is lined up, it will happily swage you another pocket wherever it lands.

dale in Louisiana

Outpost75
06-01-2013, 07:58 PM
Dillon swage. I have tried other methods over the last 50 years but came to this about 10 years ago. Don't need to look farther.


+1 on the Dillon Auto-swage 600. Only way to go.

MrWolf
06-02-2013, 11:32 AM
Dillon super swage 600

FALaholic
06-02-2013, 02:11 PM
Another happy Dillon 600 user. I wore out an RCBS crimp remover (rotary blade) not mention the time and sore thumb and fingers after several thousand cases.

.429
06-02-2013, 03:08 PM
a countersink is the bomb diggidy on military crimps!