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customcutter
05-09-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm starting a set of dies for .223, but I may buy the bullet forming die, as it's the most difficult to make.

Just wondering what type of accuracy you are getting with your swaged rifle bullets? Also are they "home made" or commercial? If commercial, what mfg.? I know some of the bench rest shooters are swaging their own bullets, just wondering what the average Joe is getting for accuracy.

thanks,
Ken

454PB
05-09-2013, 10:00 PM
Mine are made using a Corbin die set. Accuracy is good, but not as good as what I've done with other commercial jacketed bullets.....perhaps 10% to 20% larger groups. I use them in 22/250, 222 Remington, and .223. I plan to try them in a recently acquired .22 Hornet, but haven't yet.

MUSTANG
05-09-2013, 10:07 PM
Custom cutter:

Accuracy depends on what your objectives are. The following is a thread I created exploring the use of a very slow surplus powder (WC860). In the string, see post #36 for a table developing some loads using an 80Grain .223 bullet I swaged as part of my development. There are pics of the groups also posted.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?160094-WC860-in-223-5-56-Yes-But&highlight=


Others will have same/better/worse results depending on their objectives, components, process control, and other considerations with their swaged bullets.

Mustang

Utah Shooter
05-09-2013, 10:43 PM
I am not seeing the thread.

customcutter
05-09-2013, 10:59 PM
Objective first off is to make a bullet, next to hit 10" circle at 100 yds, eventually work down to 1-2MOA. I know it's a process and will require me doing my part.

thanks,
Ken

Reload3006
05-09-2013, 11:37 PM
Objective first off is to make a bullet, next to hit 10" circle at 100 yds, eventually work down to 1-2MOA. I know it's a process and will require me doing my part.

thanks,
Ken

using commercial jackets J4 i can shoot a 5 shot group and cover it with a dime.
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee403/reload3006/3324.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/reload3006/media/3324.jpg.html)

customcutter
05-10-2013, 09:16 AM
Mustang: Interesting concept using a "surplus" powder and duplexing to increase performance. Thanks for the link.

3006: That's some great accuracy. Who's dies are you using, I'm going to assume commercial?

thanks,
Ken

Smokin7mm
05-10-2013, 09:30 AM
All of my equipment is RCE. I use a combination of commercial jackets and ones made from rimfire cases. The commercial are much easier to work with and give more consistant results but I have also had very good luck with the rimfire jackets with groups under and inch at 100yard from several of my silhouette pistols in 22cal and 6mm.
Bret

Reload3006
05-10-2013, 09:34 AM
RCE dies Richard does a great job. But it is just precision machining. If you ream and lap your point form die and are careful with making your core swage die and core seat die there is no reason you cant get the same results.

Lizard333
05-10-2013, 10:23 AM
Using 22LR jackets I get "ok" results. The best I could get out of the those was 3/4 inch at 100 yards. Using commercial jackets I have gotten better a 1/4 inch. When my VLD point form die shows up from RCE I'm hoping to do better.

BT Sniper
05-25-2013, 01:17 AM
This was the last 5 shot group I shot a few weeks ago from my 223rem Savage 12BVSS with my 9s 55 grain bullets made from 22lr brass loaded on top of 25 grains of H-335. Soon as I get some real time to do some more range work I'm sure I can top these results.

Used LC brass and Wolf 223 primmers and 100 yrds.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1080464_zps5e80ba25.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/P1080464_zps5e80ba25.jpg.html)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1080465_zpsd4725022.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/P1080465_zpsd4725022.jpg.html)

BT Sniper
05-25-2013, 01:18 AM
If I can fix the one flyer the group will improve a lot! Those where teh first 5 shots out of the gun that day.

onomrbil
05-25-2013, 10:07 PM
If you are interested in fine accuracy from your hand-made bullets you are prolly not going to get it from 22 hulls or RCE/Corbin dies. Such things can make acceptable varmint bullets, etc., but fine accuracy requires bullets that are dead straight and perfectly round. Neither of the Corbins produce dies that will make bullets of that quality. You will notice that there are NO match bullets made on Corbin dies. I have pushed RCE dies to their practical limits and none of the bullets I have made cut the mustard in a BR rifle. They're pretty good, though, and are prolly better than most off-the-shelf bullets you can buy. The real thing requires much more expensive dies, as I have discovered.