encore question

[bigted]

im a bit confused being a fairly new encore owner.

what if any difference is there in barrel requirements between the encore,,,G-2,,,and contender frames?

can a contender barrel fit up to the encore frame?

do the stocks differ between the different models ... encore ... contender ... G-2 ?

probably already answered questions but im ,, as stated ,, new to this platform and find myself having fun with this new to me rifle/pistol platform.

also I don't see the problem with installing a rifle barrel to a pistol frame or visa versa with a pistol barrel on a rifle frame ... other then the legal requirements ... is there any provision to keep these combinations from taking place? legally I believe that a rifle can have a barrel no shorter then 16 inch. so a 17 inch pistol barrel should be no problem on a rifle setup ... correct?

that's enough for now. thanks for your replies. [smilie=s:

[Doc Highwall]

Encore barrels only fit a Encore frame and Encore stocks only fit a Encore frame.

The G2 and Contender barrels can both be switched I believe. On the Contender if you cock the hammer back and then let it down without firing it you must break the action open and reclose it in order to be able to cock the hammer again.

The Encore and G2 do not have to have the action broken in order to cock them.

[Whiterabbit]

encore frames can support 50 BMG's too, right?:kidding:

[bigted]

thanks doc. I thought so but didn't know as I found barrels that were spose to fit all three...didn't think that was so.

whiterabbit...don't ritely know what your message is...maybe sumtin din come thru...EH?[smilie=s:
heck why not....:veryconfu...:killingpc...:drinks:

[nagantguy]

Doc got it right each barrel fits the frame its named for. Both have plus and minus everything I a trade off. I happen to like the encore more but the contender is a bit lighter. It is my favorite modular platform. Have more barrels than I need wish I had some back that I swapped or sold and want new ones.

[Doc Highwall]

I have both Encore and Contender set up as pistols and the Contender fits my hand better, but I have 6mm Br. 6.5mm Br. and 7mm Br. barrels for the Encore that are too powerful cartridges for a Contender or G2 frame to handle.

I also have a Encore frame set up as a rifle with 6.5mm Br. and 7mm Br. barrels.

[grampa243]

also I don't see the problem with installing a rifle barrel to a pistol frame or visa versa with a pistol barrel on a rifle frame ... other then the legal requirements ... is there any provision to keep these combinations from taking place? legally I believe that a rifle can have a barrel no shorter then 16 inch. so a 17 inch pistol barrel should be no problem on a rifle setup ... correct?


i don't beleave a pistol barrel can be over 15 inches. if i'm remembering the atf rules right. i was check that all out last year thinking i would build and ar-15 pistol for fun. but desided i was proabley asking for a hard time when ever poeple seen it. [now that ny went comie i'm think it was a good chosie.]

i do like the Encore have it in 45-70 and 243. looking for a 30-30 or 308 barrel next.

[Doc Highwall]

As far as I know there is no limit on barrel length for a pistol, but rifles have a minimum barrel length of 16” and a overall length of 27”. I am not sure on the overall length on the rifles so if somebody knows for sure please let us know.

A rifle with a barrel shorter then 16” comes under NFA rules and requires a $200 tax stamp.

[Hogdaddy]

Riflles need to be a min of 26",, If I recall right. Someone correct me ifin I'm wrong ; )
H/D

[stubshaft]

As far as I know there is no limit on barrel length for a pistol, but rifles have a minimum barrel length of 16” and a overall length of 27”. I am not sure on the overall length on the rifles so if somebody knows for sure please let us know.

A rifle with a barrel shorter then 16” comes under NFA rules and requires a $200 tax stamp.

That is generally tru for the Federal side of the house, but some states limit pistols to a max of 15".

[bgoff_ak]

Hog daddy you are correct I just looked at my form 1 it's barrel under 16" and less then 26" overall For rifle. I think there are some other restrictions also like the stock etc... Maybe some one else will know if you buy an encore with a barrel attached as a rifle is it always a rifle ? I'm asking because an AR bought assembled is a rifle ( with a rifle barrel ), as a lower its an other and can be assembled into a pistol... But my SBR have now been registered as rifle and thus can never go back...

[Doc Highwall]

I had both my Encore's registered as pistols so I can shoot them as a pistol or rifle.

The reason I bought the second Encore frame was because of the PIA to switch from rifle to pistol and back to a rifle with the butt stock.

[uscra112]

encore frames can support 50 BMG's too, right?:kidding:

If you believe what gets posted in the Intarweb by certain specialist suppliers, sure ! Heck, it's only a short step up from .338 RUM, ain't it?

[jsheyn]

Here is a good low down on the TC ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Center_Arms

[Whiterabbit]

If you believe what gets posted in the Intarweb by certain specialist suppliers, sure ! Heck, it's only a short step up from .338 RUM, ain't it?

Just a big 30-06, Right?

:kidding:

[grampa243]

Hog daddy you are correct I just looked at my form 1 it's barrel under 16" and less then 26" overall For rifle. I think there are some other restrictions also like the stock etc... Maybe some one else will know if you buy an encore with a barrel attached as a rifle is it always a rifle ? I'm asking because an AR bought assembled is a rifle ( with a rifle barrel ), as a lower its an other and can be assembled into a pistol... But my SBR have now been registered as rifle and thus can never go back...

for an AR to be a legal pistol the ''lower'' must be registered as a Pistol and can not have a stock and/or forward grip put on it.

if you combine a '' pistol upper''(less then 16in barrel) and ''rifle lower''(shocked) you have a made a SBR(short barreled rifle)
In the United States, it is a federal felony to possess an SBR without paying a $200 tax to the BATFE. BATFE notification is required when transporting an SBR across state lines.

If the registrant retains control over the parts required to assemble the SBR or SBS, the firearm is still be subject to all requirements of the NFA.

in some states having the parts to make a SBR is a felony.

if you combine a '' pistol lower'' and a ''rifle upper'' that has a forward grip/handle you have made a AOW(Any Other Weapon)

ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are “making” a firearm requiring registration with ATF’s NFA Branch. Making an unregistered “AOW” is punishable by a fine and 10 years’ imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered “AOW” is also punishable by fine and 10 years’ imprisonment.

To lawfully add a vertical fore grip to a handgun, a person must make an appropriate application on ATF Form 1, “Application to Make and Register a Firearm.” The applicant must submit the completed form, along with a fingerprint card bearing the applicant’s fingerprints; a photograph; and $200.00. The application will be reviewed by the NFA Branch.

so back to the Encore. if it was built as a rifle it must stay a rifle. if it starts as a pistol you may be able to put a stock and rifle barrel on it.(check local laws first) but not a stock and pistol barrel.