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bigboredad
04-20-2013, 05:47 PM
Finally decided to fully commit to raising the funds for a bfr. I had a .45/70 once but I also had a son. I sacrificed the bfr for my son but that led to memories that are priceless. But now bfr's are scarce. But I can't even decided what caliber to get. I love my Ruger .480 and that would be a logical choice since I have brass dies and a mold. I also have brass dies but no molds in .45/70. I also have dies and molds for the Smith. 500. There is .475/.480 a couple hours away he is asking 900 plus the he has 100 cases rcbs dies and a Lee 400gr mold. Is that a good price

Sax.45
04-20-2013, 06:51 PM
Well the way things are its a fair price, About a year ago I was offered a bfr in 45/70 with a halographic sight and mounts in the box for 800.00. I sure regret not buying it. The next time I saw the guy he said it was sold..:cry::cry:

bigboredad
04-20-2013, 07:13 PM
yeah I think about too long and should have taken action a few months ago oops

shotstring
04-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Our local gunshop has a brand new 500 S & W BFR. But I passed because they make it with the 45-70 cylinder to keep costs down. Seemed like way to much cylinder length and weight for only the 500 cartridge. I think the price was about $950 or so.

44man
04-21-2013, 09:44 AM
It is hard to find anything today since the God in chief got back in.
I have three BFR's and nothing will make me part with one.
I have shot one in .500 S&W and it was great but I like the smaller gun in .500 JRH better. I love the .475 and my 45-70.
I don't know why but when I go down to shoot, I mostly take the JRH. The thing has just grabbed on to me.
My friend bought a S&W in .500 and said the factory loads are $60 for 20 shots. I used my 440 gr boolit and loaded for him at 12 to 15 cents a shot. Yet the gun is just more then needed for deer---WAY more. He does not hunt and just likes big guns but when I seen him go find a thick glove I had to laugh.
The big Smith is a fine gun and the BFR's are fine guns so choosing the caliber is the hard part.
If I could have just one, I think the .475 would be the one.

ebner glocken
04-22-2013, 08:16 PM
Great guns, far more accurate than I. I have two, one in .500 smith, the other in .50AE and had a 500 JRH cylinder made for it. The 500 S&W rarely gets shot mostly due to the fact that I refuse to download for it, that defeats the purpose of the whole thing. The AE cylinder gets shot some but is difficult to keep from vertical stringing, not what I would call a good revolver cartrige. It's hard to crimp hard enough with a taper crimp and not get bullet jump, thus the vertical stringing. The JRH is with out a doubt my favroite for obvious reasons although I am still trying to find a pratical use for any of them. If I was going to buy a BFR that was pratical I would probably buy a .454 and mostly shoot 45LC out of it.

Ebner

bigboredad
04-22-2013, 09:35 PM
Well as luck would have it I was able to get just enough money together just as a older .475 became available. It is in like new condition. The only problem is the big grip and my stubby fingers I definitely need to find something that will work better for me

44man
04-23-2013, 08:48 AM
Well as luck would have it I was able to get just enough money together just as a older .475 became available. It is in like new condition. The only problem is the big grip and my stubby fingers I definitely need to find something that will work better for me
My friend Dave has short, fat, stubby fingers. Every gun he shoots he has to grip high to reach the triggers. Not too good with the heavy recoiling guns but he does manage to shoot my BFR's.
A Bisley might help you or some other grip panels. I hate the Bisley because of my large hands and middle knuckle but it might work for you.
I love the Uncle Mikes rubber grips on the BFR's but one size does not fit all.
I wish I knew what you can buy to fix it yet I think you can do good as is.
The accuracy will be hard to beat. You might not want to run a box of loads. But a few will make you grin anyway.
They should be easy to find used and fired only a few times. Guys bite off more then they can chew even with a .44!
Many buy little custom guns in huge calibers, shoot once and turn the gun into a safe queen to brag about. I know rich guys that never shot what they had made. Those that do shoot, wrap up with band aids and thick gloves. It is not long before wrists hurt.
The BFR's have enough weight, best ever for the large calibers. The S&W X frame is big for a reason. Many of the calibers would turn a shoulder black and blue from a rifle.
I am practical and want gun weight. I shot too many .44's and even .357's that hurt my knuckle. Even my old Vaquero got a Pachmeyer grip because my loads were only good for 6 shots. I don't like pain.

44man
04-23-2013, 09:03 AM
Great guns, far more accurate than I. I have two, one in .500 smith, the other in .50AE and had a 500 JRH cylinder made for it. The 500 S&W rarely gets shot mostly due to the fact that I refuse to download for it, that defeats the purpose of the whole thing. The AE cylinder gets shot some but is difficult to keep from vertical stringing, not what I would call a good revolver cartrige. It's hard to crimp hard enough with a taper crimp and not get bullet jump, thus the vertical stringing. The JRH is with out a doubt my favroite for obvious reasons although I am still trying to find a pratical use for any of them. If I was going to buy a BFR that was pratical I would probably buy a .454 and mostly shoot 45LC out of it.

Ebner
Much truth. No sense buying a big gun to turn it into a .38 and an auto round has no business in a revolver.
But I do not like the .454 at all, mostly the primer used. Then it is too fast for deer without expanding boolits. The Colt round will not shoot as good as a full length case. Full house .454's have a very sharp recoil and to download is the same as buying a .500 S&W and looking for small loads.
I feel like you do, no such thing as practice loads. Buy big, shoot big. Practice is best with a smaller caliber. But to get used to the big one for hunting, shoot what it was made for.

subsonic
04-23-2013, 10:35 AM
I've got mine still! Need to get the JRH out and go play! Shot the .475 just the other week.

If you don't find one, let me know. I stock them when I can get them. I have a .44 ready to ship. I can probably come up with a .454, .444Marlin, .45-70, .500S&W or .460 pretty quickly. Or a .45/410 if you want one:veryconfu They are not as cheap as they used to be, but still a great deal. $899 is what I get on most with the .475 and .500JRH running $925 when available. Shipping to your dealer is extra.

44man
04-23-2013, 11:09 AM
I've got mine still! Need to get the JRH out and go play! Shot the .475 just the other week.

If you don't find one, let me know. I stock them when I can get them. I have a .44 ready to ship. I can probably come up with a .454, .444Marlin, .45-70, .500S&W or .460 pretty quickly. Or a .45/410 if you want one:veryconfu They are not as cheap as they used to be, but still a great deal. $899 is what I get on most with the .475 and .500JRH running $925 when available. Shipping to your dealer is extra.
How I wish I could buy more.
You have good prices.

bigboredad
04-23-2013, 12:03 PM
Thanks sub I actually was able to find one. It is the older one before they drilled tapped and provided the scope base. Because of that I was able to get a pretty decent price and the gun looks more like a display gun than one that was shot and came with every thing it had when new including the plastic that came over the gun

bigboredad
04-23-2013, 12:19 PM
The bfr recoils a lot different than the srh that's for sure but it was cold yesterday and that makes recoil hurt a lot more anyway. I was shooting 24gr of 296 and a 425gr bullet and after 100 rounds I'm pretty sore today. The grips don't fit me very good and so where it hits my hands is new and pretty soar

ebner glocken
04-23-2013, 02:34 PM
This makes me feel a little better for flipping down the 625 for the. 50ae and another 250 for the jrh cylinder. In all honesty my highest round counts nowadays are 22s and 38 dewc ahead of 2.7 be at the range. But when hunting or carrying in the field larger things are taken. The big boomers are shot enough to remain proficient.

Ebner

bigboredad
04-23-2013, 03:03 PM
The way things are today it's cheaper for me to cast reload and shoot then to shoot. .22's. I thought about getting the 45/70 even it is cheaper for me to shoot. I do get my lead for free it ain't easy but it's free

white eagle
04-23-2013, 05:12 PM
I'd like to get a 475 but I am not a fan of the grips they use

bigboredad
04-23-2013, 05:56 PM
Yeah I hear ya dude. The gun is first then you get to the grips and say huh? I tried some hogues on it and that's was a big oops

subsonic
04-26-2013, 05:27 PM
I have 2 .500JRHs in-bound if anybody is looking. They are posted in the swapping and selling forum right now.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?197172-WTS-Magnum-Research-5-5-quot-BFR-500JRH-New-In-Box!

They won't last long.

bigboredad
04-26-2013, 06:13 PM
Serves me right for not having patience. However my .475 is pretty cool and humbled me the first day shooting. I will spread the word but you are right I bet they don't last long

subsonic
04-26-2013, 09:21 PM
I generally don't know when I'm getting .475 or .500JRHs until I'm getting them! But I have a standing order for them....

bigboredad
04-26-2013, 10:35 PM
Yeah I had the I want a bfr bad and have the cash syndrome. It took quite a few years for the stars to line up but they finally did. What bullet are you shooting out of the bfr? Is it from accurate molds or mountain molds I can't remember

44man
04-27-2013, 08:02 AM
I made my own molds for all of mine. The 45-70 shoots best with my 320 gr WLN and I have a 385 gr WFN that shoots very good.
The .475 is a WFN at 420 gr, PB. The JRH is 440 gr WFN, PB.
All have shot 1" with quite a few groups at 1/2" at 100 yards.
None really need a GC unless you shoot softer lead. Any decent WLN or WFN from any of our mold makers here will shoot as good. The BFR's do not like real light boolits, will shoot a wide range of weights but there is no sense at all going too heavy.
I have shot a lot of 420 gr boolits from the 45-70 and they are great too, no need ever to go to 500 gr boolits. They might shoot and I have a Rapine 500 gr Gov't mold but need to cast. Someday I will play with them, just not needed.
This is what the JRH did for me at 50 yards.
68605

monge
04-27-2013, 06:08 PM
:holysheepI check gun broker every day for a bfr 45-70 10" barrel cant afford it but still keep checking. When one pops up Im going to buy it and explain it to my wife later!

bbailey7821
04-27-2013, 06:58 PM
I`ve just began playing with my new 10 in. 500 SW model. Not alot to report, but this gun is really looking to be a shooter.

bigboredad
04-27-2013, 07:16 PM
I'm really liking the 500 Smith a good friendly of mine has one but it is the 4 inch ported version and with a 465gr bullet and a scoop of 296 it gets 1275fps and they play follow the leader pretty dang good and kicks less than my Ruger only loads in the .45.

44man
04-27-2013, 07:52 PM
I`ve just began playing with my new 10 in. 500 SW model. Not alot to report, but this gun is really looking to be a shooter.
It really is and also the X frame S&W is good.
They are real fun to shoot but I don't need the huge gun for deer.

bbailey7821
04-27-2013, 08:46 PM
Anybody else having issue getting Miha`s 600g slug seated? My RCBS seat /crimp die seems tobe too short.

44man
04-28-2013, 09:05 AM
Anybody else having issue getting Miha`s 600g slug seated? My RCBS seat /crimp die seems tobe too short.
I don't like to pull your tail but the boolit is just toooooo big.
You need twist stability and you can't shoot the big boolit to spin.

bbailey7821
04-28-2013, 01:38 PM
As always, 44man, I fully respect your advice! I am striving fo a heavyweight load for use in a handi rifle and I already invested in the mold.

bbailey7821
04-28-2013, 01:40 PM
And, if all else fails, l suppose I could cobble up somenasty 20 hp sabot slugs with it.

bbailey7821
04-28-2013, 01:41 PM
20 gauge that is.

44man
04-28-2013, 03:25 PM
Now I don't know about a rifle. You might get enough velocity.
Please post results.
I bet the Handy rifle can pull your eyes out of their sockets! [smilie=s:

subsonic
04-28-2013, 11:50 PM
Now I don't know about a rifle. You might get enough velocity.
Please post results.
I bet the Handy rifle can pull your eyes out of their sockets! [smilie=s:

Yes, you'll have an elephant gun load, but not in an elephant gun (read 10lb+).

Interesting. I doubt you have the twist for it, but you never know until you try it.

bbailey7821
08-10-2013, 08:45 AM
howdy guys. Still got my bf are in 500. By the way, the 600g it stabilizes in both the BFR and in my handy rifle. The 600 grainer will do headshots at 100 yards all day long out of the pistol. Just wanted to let you know that it absolutely stabilizes in the handgun

missionary5155
08-10-2013, 09:05 AM
Greetings
Still have my caliber .454 and have no intentions of parting with it or any Dan Wesson. All the rest can trickle away if need be but those two brands stay.
Sadly I cannot have either down here with me. Have to settle for those other brands that are pretty and function but in no way can compare to rock solid precision revolvers.
Mike in Peru

bigboredad
08-10-2013, 01:35 PM
That is cool.to hear about the 600gr bullet. I picked up a older .475 last April and swapped the grips for the factory micarta grips and that made a huge difference the factory rubbers were way to big for my stubby little fingers. Since the grip switch ivey really begun to enjoy the bfr unfortunately I've only been able to find .480 brass but with my version of a 425gr lfn the accuracy has amazed me. Just picked up a 405gr that's my version of a wfn and working to find the load for it

Groo
08-10-2013, 07:20 PM
Groo here
Unlike 44man I do like the 454, But like him I think it is a brute...
I ,at one time, recomended a 454 to all as a hunting gun.
But now would say a 480 or 475.
Not because they are Better but because they are easier to load and shoot.
The 454 is a specialist round needing special loading and working up to. [Like 44special to 44 mag only worse]
The 460 and 500S&W are also in this range.
The 475 and especially the 480 run at lower pressures, don't use special twist in the barrel, and accept a wide range of loads from mild to wild.