"Real" Keith Bullets

[Green Frog]

That looks right, but I thought it was a little heavier (maybe 105 gr?) How about it, Catshooter? Is the one you honcho’d there? You did lead the one through Lee, right?

Froggie

[Cosmic_Charlie]

I figured out why they were not shooting well, my rear sight had come loose.

[LAH]

Mr. Keith may have been happy with this 41 bullet.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/41-230-K/.highres/aaa014.jpg

[GLynn41]

that is a beautiful bullet--- i am happy with it

[LAH]

i am happy with it

Most using it were happy for sure. Good to hear from you GLynn41.

[Green Frog]

I recently acquired one of the Lee six cavity version that came from the legendary “Group Buy” from any years ago. Looking forward to using it, but right now I need to shoot up some I already have to make room for them. I know, it’s a good problem to have! [smilie=l:

Froggie

[LAH]

I recently acquired one of the Lee six cavity version that came from the legendary “Group Buy” from any years ago. Looking forward to using it, but right now I need to shoot up some I already have to make room for them. I know, it’s a good problem to have! [smilie=l:

Froggie

Give us primer to do such thimgs.

[parkerhale1200]

I am more of a lurker here than a poster.
Maybe i can shed some light on Kieth style?
My late father was very fond of his style.
He said it was the nose and the bottom driving band.
He bought in the early 60s a mold of RCBS in the Kieth style for his 45.
After he passed away i have the mould and had a conversation with RCBS, they stated that this was exactly Kieth's bullet.
Before i barge in, is it wanted that i make pictures and such?

Now i think of it that thing is over 60 years of age.....whthflu....

With best regards Igor

[Green Frog]

Igor,
The design is well over 80 years old, and as designed by Elmer Keith and adapted and interpreted by several mound makers, it has achieved the status of nearly mystical in its abilities.

Surprisingly, it seems to scale up and down well, as small as the 32 caliber I mentioned previously in this thread up to the 44s and 45s that Elmer favored so strongly.

If you wish to post pictures, it would be informative to show the shape of the bottom of the grease groove. Keith was adamant that they should be cut square, while some of the makers have taken liberties with his design and rounded the bottom of their grease grooves for ease of manufacture and so the bullets drop out more easily. Even with a single manufacturer the design changes slightly over time as cherries wear out and are replaced, so seeing the specifics of your father’s mould and the bullet it casts would be informative.

Regards,
Froggie

[LAH]

I am more of a lurker here than a poster.
Maybe i can shed some light on Kieth style?
My late father was very fond of his style.
He said it was the nose and the bottom driving band.
He bought in the early 60s a mold of RCBS in the Kieth style for his 45.
After he passed away i have the mould and had a conversation with RCBS, they stated that this was exactly Kieth's bullet.
Before i barge in, is it wanted that i make pictures and such?

Now i think of it that thing is over 60 years of age.....whthflu....

With best regards Igor

We love pictures.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/41-230-K/.highres/aaa014.jpg?width=320&height=320&fit=bounds

[parkerhale1200]

One of these days i have a casting session, they will come.
And picking a fight with my new phone....to big size photo to post.
Wont let you down...
A 80 year old design and a 60-65 year old mould....
With a email of rcbs that stated that the mould was original Elmers design.
That stated that the nose and base were unaltered.....

[parkerhale1200]

https://i.postimg.cc/7hc15k9T/20231227-153216.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/15HDqDzK/20231227-153236.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/nhhBYMjf/20231227-153258.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/8kLRT2Q9/20231227-153310.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qM08q1pR/20231227-153353.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/R0q19q4L/20231227-153512.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[parkerhale1200]

I will upload better pic's of the boolit.
This is the only one left, i will cast some new and better looking
I really should pay more attention on how to store my molds, this rust i did not expected.
a lit of the "dry" box was also broken.....sigh

with kind regards Igor

[Green Frog]

Happy New Year, parkerhale1200. I have a little bad news for you though. According to his writings, Elmer insisted that the grease groove be cut square with a flat bottom. He even went so far as to distinguish between the period Ideal moulds that were cut to his “correct” design and those that used the later grease groove design. Fortunately, nobody but Elmer himself seems to ever have been able to see any difference in their performance though.
BTW, you may be pleasantly surprised when you clean up those rusted items. Mould I particular can be cleaned up from seemingly total ruin and still cast great bullets… I’ve done it!
Froggie

[Old Two Wars]

I want one in 452

[Old Two Wars]

We love pictures.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/41-230-K/.highres/aaa014.jpg?width=320&height=320&fit=bounds

I want one in 452

[Minerat]

I got a NOE 454-276-SWC (Keith) when they were engraved with EK's signature. It drops at 0.454.

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/bullet-moulds/452-454/454-276-swc-bd4/

[LAH]

I got a NOE 454-276-SWC (Keith) when they were engraved with EK's signature. It drops at 0.454.

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/bullet-moulds/452-454/454-276-swc-bd4/

That's a great bullet. Here's one beside its 358 counterpart.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/45-290-K/.highres/005.jpg

[Minerat]

I have the .432-277 also.

[Gunslinger1911]

I'm only about halfway through the thread and there is a ton of info !!
Grabbed a sample from the Keith (ish) molds I have (all MP)
.357, .41, .44, .45 (45 isn't really a Keith I don't think - 270SAA I believe)323621

Well nutz, flipped it somehow - not sure how to fix that lol

[LAH]

You are correct, the 45 is a MP copy of the RCBS SAA. It is a heavy bullet designed by Dave Scovill if memory serves for the Colt SAA. I sent him several of these sized .454" years ago for an article in Handloader Magazine. And while there are other bullets that may claim best overall bullet for the 45 Colt, I believe this one is good as any. And at risk of speaking for Mr. Keith, I believe he would approve.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/45-290-K/.highres/45-293-K-2-A.jpg

[Gunslinger1911]

Yes LAH, quite a thumper ! Doesn't feed too well in my 45 Colt lever guns, but nice boolet in Smith 25 and a real hammer in Taurus 454.

[LAH]

This is the 41 Keith at 230 grains. Walt Melander cut the mould for my Master Caster before he passed. The 41 guys loved this bullet.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/41-230-K/.highres/DSC02798.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Creekerpics/Loading%20Room%20101/Bullets/41-230-K/.highres/DSC02802.jpg