lee loader caliber?

[3006guns]

I have a whole collection of dandy old reloading gear...my pride and joy. My stepson has a Savage 99 chambered for .300 Savage, but only wants to reload an occasional box of ammo, so my question: I know the little Lee Loader used to come in many calibers, but did they ever make one in .300 Savage? I can't seem to find a list of what was available years ago. Been watching Epay but no luck. Thanks!:-?

[454PB]

Yes. Way back when I started handloading, my brother-in-law had a Savage 99 in .300 Savage and he had a Lee Loader for it.

[3006guns]

Many thanks! Now that I know they made one, I'll start "the hunt". I'd really like to get this young man involved in what could be a life long hobby!:-D

[mtgrs737]

One of the inexpensive lee presses and a set of std. lee dies would also be a low cost option over the slow leeloader unit.

[floodgate]

3006guns:

You might also check with Randy Davis at "The 310 Shop" in Tombstone, AZ; he may be able to fix you up with a Lyman 310 "tong" tool set up for the .300. It'll be a bit more pricey, but is capable of making excellent reloads if F/L sizing is not needed (if it is, on occasion, he should also have the Lyman/Ideal sizing die you use with a mallet and a block of wood or a bench vise). These tools go back well over 100 years, but are still practical - and fun - to use.

floodgate

[cattleskinner]

I know that some on here don't like Ebay because of their recent changes, but here is one that I found looking on there tonight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/300-SAV-LEE-LOADER-ORIGINAL-BOX-1963_W0QQitemZ180153882025QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1461Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

-Amos

[3006guns]

All good options...the only reason I thought of the Lee Loader was the simplicity and how it teaches each operation to the beginner. As far as the 310 tool...any of those go in MY collection! Lol. Funny I didn't see the Ebay listing...but it never occured to me to look in the "collectibles, locks" section. Thanks again guys for all the help!:-D

[richbug]

In my experience, Neck sized ammo for the 300 savage in a 99 is asking for trouble. Straight walled case, small extractor; if you fired the round after you chamber it all is usually fine, but if you don't it usually won't come back out.

[3006guns]

You might have a point...never loaded for this cartridge before. I also just discovered that Midway has the Lee Loader in .300 Savage for only 18.95. After all this, the little hand press and standard dies might be the way to go.

[RBak]

In regard to that old Lee Hand Loader, I have often heard that you haven't really "hand-loaded" until you've popped a few primers in one of these little sweethearts!

Although I started on a 310, I'm sure my own "very first Lee anything" was a loader in 30-30. And that was back in the day when you actually labored under the thought of "improved" accuracy and economy.

Personally, I think there is still no better way to get a young fellow off on the right foot with reloading. As 3006guns so aptly pointed out, it is extremely simply and teaches each step.

Good choice, IMHO.

Russ...

[Junior1942]

What RussB said. Start the boy on a Lee Loader.

[Old Ironsights]

You might have a point...never loaded for this cartridge before. I also just discovered that Midway has the Lee Loader in .300 Savage for only 18.95. After all this, the little hand press and standard dies might be the way to go.

Lee Loader First. Hand Press later.

You should have a Lee Loader for every caliber you have or may have.

[Junior1942]

You should have a Lee Loader for every caliber you have or may have.I agree. One reason is Lee will soon stop making them. That came from John Lee himself.

[45 2.1]

I agree. One reason is Lee will soon stop making them. That came from John Lee himself.


Whats up with that guy, is he nuts. Those dies have got more people into reloading and buying his other products. Seems like an unwise business decision to me.

[Old Ironsights]

Simply, the Patent(s) are about to expire and he expects ChinaCo to start fabbing them as soon as they can (as soon as they recognize the market).

Unfortunately, they are so simple that it would be hard for even China to make bad ones.

[RBak]

Whats up with that guy, is he nuts. Those dies have got more people into reloading and buying his other products. Seems like an unwise business decision to me.

I think there is a lot of wisdom in the statement that those dies have probably "gotten more people started" than any thing else!

I know that both my sons still have their "first" handloaders!
In fact, that is about all the oldest boy has ever used as far as I know, and he is now in his mid forties.
He has one rifle, a semi-custom 03 I had built back in the late 1950's, one loader, one simple scale, an old RCBS powder dribbler, one stupid looking funnel, and a box of Lee Dippers, is about all he owns.
Now this may sound boring for most folks, but he has managed quite well for 30 (+/-) years now, and actually doesn't seem to want anything else.

He is a hunter more so than a shooter, and he still manages to get off a couple of hundred or so rounds a year...which is far beyond what the "average" hunter might do.

Russ...

[Old Ironsights]

I have a Lee Loader in .30-30 and .45-70. I probably won't get a 30-30 until my Uncle hands down his Savage 170 and it will be a bit before I get another .45-70.

But I will get them someday, so I've got the Loaders.

[3006guns]

Wow! Since I started this whole thing I've discovered that you can still buy a brand new Lee Loader in 300 Savage....so that's what I'll do. I'll give him a box of primers, bullets and powder along with some coaching. If he shows interest and aptitude I have a nice old iron press that should hold him for a year or two. If nothing else, I'll have someone to leave my 45 years of "stuff" to!

By the way, the concern of not chambering would apply only if more than one rifle were involved...not the case here, so I think neck resizing should do just fine. Again thanks to everyone for the help and advice!:-D

[floodgate]

...And I just plucked an as-new-in-box-with one (instruction sheet) in .45-70 off evilBay! (Yeah, I know - but isn't it FUN to subvert their PC stance?) At the price I got it ($16.45, a rare bargain from this source), it sure didn't make them much money, anyway.

floodgate

[Old Ironsights]

Sorry to tell you that NEW .45-70 LLs are going for 14.99 at Cabelas.com, but hey, the one I just gave away was a 1960s model ($8.99 retail) and I bought it for $30 so who am I to talk...

[floodgate]

Ironsights:

Yeah, but I got a combined shipping price with some other junk from the same seller, that probably puts the net $ down around Cabela's.

Glad to get it, anyhoo.

floodgate

[corvette8n]

I guess I lucked out I was at a gun show and the vendor had a whole pile of Lee loaders for $10.00 ea. I got .308, .300 Sav, .32 WS, .338wm, 12ga.,30-30.
When I saw him at the next show he said a guy bought all the rest.
I am still looking for .38-40.

[RBak]

the one I just gave away was a 1960s model ($8.99 retail) and I bought it for $30 so who am I to talk...

:drinks: Sounds like the way I do business!

Buy high, sell low, and make it up in volume??? :roll:

When I own anything, and decide to sell it, it simply ain't worth "crap".
Now, if somebody else owns the identical same item, it automatically becomes "vintage & valuable"...go figure. :confused:


Russ...

[45 2.1]

I guess I lucked out I was at a gun show and the vendor had a whole pile of Lee loaders for $10.00 ea. I got .308, .300 Sav, .32 WS, .338wm, 12ga.,30-30.
When I saw him at the next show he said a guy bought all the rest.
I am still looking for .38-40.

Could I get a scan or copy of the load data sheet from the 32 WS. I just picked one up and its missing.

[Old Ironsights]

:drinks: Sounds like the way I do business!

Buy high, sell low, and make it up in volume??? :roll: .

Actually, it was part of a 2 Loader deal - I REALLY wanted the .410 Lee Loader (nigh unobtanium) and tried to "sweeten the pot" by buying an overpriced Vintage .45-70.

[hydraulic]

My 12 ga. Lee Loader sits on the shelf above my loading bench. Red cardboard box, my name and date, 1964, on the inside. Haven't used it in years, but wouldn't part with my first loader.

[Et2ss]

Simply, the Patent(s) are about to expire and he expects ChinaCo to start fabbing them as soon as they can (as soon as they recognize the market).

Unfortunately, they are so simple that it would be hard for even China to make bad ones.


Yes but I doubt any would be sold much cheaper than LEE's. Most handloaders are Patriots & would gladly pay a bit more for American made.

[JRParrish]

I too used a Lee loader for my shotgun shell reloading about 44 years ago. One was still going when I loaned it out about 10 years ago. I don't look for it back as I bet it still works. Richard Lee did a lot at a price many poor boys could afford.

I've used an Ideal 310 tool alot and still do.

I've got a box full of Belding & Mull Straightline reloading stuff after giving a lot away to get new reloaders going. Recently use my B&M to form and load .22/.30-30 AI. Challenging but fun. Any sources for B&M bits and pieces?

Good reloading & Shooting,

JRP

[singleshotbuff]

My first reloading tool was a LeeLoader, in 35 Remington, about 18 years ago. Made quite a bit of ammo with it for a Marlin 336, wish I still had it (and the 336).

As stated above, Richard Lee is responsible for more than his fair share of people getting involved in reloading. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Lee products, I would have never tried handloading OR boolit casting. I'll admit, I have moved on to other brands of some products, but I still use a fair amount of Lee gear.

SSB