GREENCOUNTYPETE
03-28-2013, 11:47 AM
page 53 of the April edition of American rifleman is a add that ran May 1929
for a Colt 1911 advertizing the new Colt Super .38 Automatic Pistol
down the left side of the add
"Ideal for big game and target shooting, the colt super .38 pistol is essentially an arm for strait fast shooting. Lives , reputations and personal protection may well depend on the unflattering accuracy of this powerful arm, which is capable of effectively stopping any animal which roams the American continent. "
then farther down on the right side of the page it gives cartridge specs and balistics
" Weight of bullet:130 grains. Muzzle Velocity 1190 foot seconds. Muzzle energy 408 foot pounds. penetration 12 7/8 inch pine boards."
the chuckle was that in 1929 38 super at current day 9mm ballistics will stop any which roams the American continent , and 75 years later a cartridge of nearly identical ballistics if often declared inadequate or marginal for basic self defense , and underpowered and illegal in many states for shooting game animals.
so was it that colt was selling baloney or that today's gun enthusiast are so excessively magnum crazed
probably some of each , polar bear , grizzly bear , moose , black bear and buffalo were probably never a great idea with super 38
on the flip side is 9mm really that weak and inadequate for defense or hunting in 2013
part of the reason so many police departments adopted the 9mm in the 80s and 90s was Illinois success with it in the 70's at less than current velocities Ill state troopers reported 90 some % one shot stops , when they used guns that they didn't trust not to jam on the second shot the S&W m39-1 other departments adopted the round and had much lower % of one shot stops
so either people in ILL were weak or Ill troopers figured out how to get good shot placement
It was probably all about shot placement all along and had a lot less to do with the magnum of the day.
for a Colt 1911 advertizing the new Colt Super .38 Automatic Pistol
down the left side of the add
"Ideal for big game and target shooting, the colt super .38 pistol is essentially an arm for strait fast shooting. Lives , reputations and personal protection may well depend on the unflattering accuracy of this powerful arm, which is capable of effectively stopping any animal which roams the American continent. "
then farther down on the right side of the page it gives cartridge specs and balistics
" Weight of bullet:130 grains. Muzzle Velocity 1190 foot seconds. Muzzle energy 408 foot pounds. penetration 12 7/8 inch pine boards."
the chuckle was that in 1929 38 super at current day 9mm ballistics will stop any which roams the American continent , and 75 years later a cartridge of nearly identical ballistics if often declared inadequate or marginal for basic self defense , and underpowered and illegal in many states for shooting game animals.
so was it that colt was selling baloney or that today's gun enthusiast are so excessively magnum crazed
probably some of each , polar bear , grizzly bear , moose , black bear and buffalo were probably never a great idea with super 38
on the flip side is 9mm really that weak and inadequate for defense or hunting in 2013
part of the reason so many police departments adopted the 9mm in the 80s and 90s was Illinois success with it in the 70's at less than current velocities Ill state troopers reported 90 some % one shot stops , when they used guns that they didn't trust not to jam on the second shot the S&W m39-1 other departments adopted the round and had much lower % of one shot stops
so either people in ILL were weak or Ill troopers figured out how to get good shot placement
It was probably all about shot placement all along and had a lot less to do with the magnum of the day.