Thoughts on Remy 722 in 224 Rem

[sgt.mike]

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[dk17hmr]

244 Remington aka 6mm Remington? If that is the case it has the same case head as a 308.

224 Remington would be a new one for me and based on the age of the 722's, pre 700's, I think I would have heard of it by now.

[Mk42gunner]

A 722 in .244 Remington might have some collector value if it was new in the box. In the condition you describe, it is either a shooter or a parts donor.

For ease of building, the new caliber should have the standard .30-06/ 8mm Mauser casehead.

Robert

[Bullshop]

I have a Rem 600 Mohawk in 6mm Rem I could be persuaded to trade.

[richhodg66]

I think the ones with the slower twist were called .244 Remington. When it became apparent they wouldn't stabilize 100 grain bullets, Remington changed the rate of twist and renamed the cartridge the 6mm Remington.

I have a Remington 788 in 6mm that is spooky accurate. Used to have a 600 that was a good shooter too. The 6mm is a good round, and I have heard from a few that the slow twist thing is BS, they will shoot 100 grain bullets fine, but I don't know from first hand experience.

I like the 722. The only one I worked with much was a .300 Savage, but I ended up liking it better than the 700s I've messed with.

[yooper]

"Love the Bolt handle on the 600/660. they are classic vent rib and all"

The Remington 600, 600 Mohawk and Remington 660 all had the same style bolt handle but only the Remington 600 had the vent rib. The Mohawk had the same barrel length as the 600 Remington with no rib, the 660 had a longer barrel with no rib. All of them, in the heavier calibers, kicked like a PO'd mule. I had a 308 600 and sold it due to recoil. I promptly forgot how bad it was and bought another, which I soon traded for a 6mm. I dearly love this latest, an early 6mm Remington 600. It's very accurate and the recoil is modest, a definite plus on my 77 year old shoulder. For what very little it's worth, the Remington XP-100 "pistol" in 221 Remington Fireball caliber was made on the same action .
yooper

[uscra112]

actually .244 Rem / 6mm Rem (designed by Fred Huntington in 1955) is based off the 7x57 case giving a rim dia of .461" versus the . 473" rim of the 30-06 and .308 /7.62mm Nato.
The PPC case of the Grendel is .440"ish (.447") which a new Bolt body could be cut by PTG
( I had to look it up too prior to posting my question as I thought the case would be the same as the .243/308/30-06 too)

I have a box of factory .244 Rem brass. It has the normal .470/.473 case head. So does all my 7mmx57 brass. When did 7x57 ever have an undersize case head?

[dk17hmr]

If your going to put a new barrel on it maybe a fast twist 6mm Remington or 6mm AI. I have a 6AI with a 10 twist and it loves 87gr hp's. A 7 or 8 twist would turn it into a long range machine.

[Herb in Pa]

65444My 722 became a 6x45................

[W.R.Buchanan]

OK guys: .473 is 12MM. NIce round number. The case head was set at that size for standardization purposes along time ago. We even figured this out when we designed the .30-03 later updated to .30-06, and left it alone. ONe would think that if WE (America) were standardizing for us alone we would have gone with a .500. case head which is only .027 larger than the Germans. We obviously had a lot of respect for the German Mauser design since we copied the vast majority of the design for our Springfield, and even had to pay Germany Royalties until the start of WW1

We were following a world standard since virtually all rimless German cartridges run the 12 MM rim dia, and most cartridge designs of that era were derived from that basic design, mainly because it was so good.

Plus or minus a few thousandths won't change much as far as operation of the bolt and extractor.

If the gun was in .243 Win I'd say put a stock on it and shoot it. Rem made the wrong choice on the end usage of the gun originally thinking it would only be a Varmint rifle. Winchester called it right and got a Varmint and Deer rifle in the same gun. They won and even after re thinking the twist rate and renaming the cartridge it never was a big seller for Remington.

If I was you I'd have that .244 barrel drilled and re bored to .257 Roberts. No other changes to the action would be necessary. You might even be able to find a "Bob" barrel for a 722 laying around some place. 7x57 is another that would not be a big changeover but you already have a .308 which is not that far off.

I had a Sako Forester in .243 that would put every round into 1" nomatter what size bullet I shot thru it. It was the most accurate gun I had ever owned and like and idiot I sold it. I still have the Cases, Bullets and Lee Loader. It was the first cartridge I ever reloaded and I started in 1971.

Wish I had that one back. I bought it for $187.95 and sold it for $485. The last Forrester I saw at a gun show they wanted $1200 !

Randy

[Lloyd Smale]

I hate to see an old classic rifle cut up. If it were me id keep it or sell it to someone who would want it as is and buy something like a used sps for the action. Even if restricted to bullets under a 100 grain the .244 with its slower twist has good bullets available. Both nosler and barness makes them. Ive killed quite a few deer with the 6mm and back in the day i did shoot quite a few with even the sierra 85s and the speers and they actually did real well.

[13Echo]

The 722 action is a bit short for best loading of the Roberts, 6mm Rem, 7x57 or similar length cartridges. Cartridges based on the .308 length case do just fine. I don't care for the .243 as it has a reputation for pressure excursions and the neck is so short but I do like the 7-08, .260, and .308 for hunting and the .22-250 for varmints. I've often thought a 722 in .250-3000 would make a wonderful light rifle and would be ideal to start a youngster. In fact if I can find a beater to donate an action that is what I'm going to do for my grandson.

Jerry Liles

[376Steyr]

Before you buy, get a dummy round and see if the extractor is still working.

[376Steyr]

Before you buy, get a dummy round and see if the extractor is still working. I don't think replacement 722 extractors are available, and Model 700 extractors won't work (per Brownells). A bum extractor can be replaced with a SAKO style, at considerable expense.

[Bullshop]

I just saw the Saeco type extracter in the last Midway flyer and think it was $15.00
Shouldnt bee too big an issue to mill the slot, drill a shallow hole for the spring, and drill the hole for the retaining pin.

[376Steyr]

I just saw the Saeco type extracter in the last Midway flyer and think it was $15.00
Shouldnt bee too big an issue to mill the slot, drill a shallow hole for the spring, and drill the hole for the retaining pin.

Not a big issue if you have a milling machine. Several years ago I had to pay somebody to put one on a Remington 725, and at the time it added 25% to what I had in the rifle. I suspect it would be about a $100 job today. I grit my teeth when I think how much money I've dumped into that "project" gun.

[EDG]

None of your suggested cartridges have the slightest bit of merit to me. All have the wrong case head size for use in the 722 unless you buy a new bolt.
The fast twist rounds are a fad based on one of two issues
1. The 5.56 in the M-16 made for an inferior long range round and the fast twist versions are an attempt to salvage the M-16 and make it usuable past a couple hundred yards.
2. The fast twist and small bore rounds do give some long range performance on taregets with reduced recoil compared to rounds with real long range performance on live targets.

The 244/6mm Rem is superior to everything you listed without butchering the rifle.
If you want something to play with just buy an action setup for the cartridge you decide to use.



Rich from What I am seeing on the error net you are correct in about 1958 they changed the twist to 1-9 to fix the 1-12 inablity to stablize the 100 plus grainers (and a new name for the cartridge 6mm Remington) which the .243 did effectively do with the 1-10, they (winchester) had sealed the fate in that cartridge (.244/6mm Remington) . I don't "think" they carried the cartridge over to the Remy 700 introduced in 1962.
If my memory serves me correct the 40X (centerfires) was built on the 722 before the 700's was used for the 40X's.
Both (722 /700 Short action) are exactly the same in the 40X stocks only differance is the 700 had a 11 degree sweep on the bolt versus the straight on the 722/
Ok guys what are ya'lls thoughts on the calibers listed?