Would you pay $250 for...

[brotherdarrell]

... A 1903(?) Carl Gustav 6.5 Mauser?

Blue is about 70%, headspace is good, bore not real shiny but rifling is sharp and goes all the way. Long barrel with flash hider. Stock is decent shape but ugly (very light colored). All numbers match.

I want it badly but trying to not impulse buy. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks

Darrell

[HARRYMPOPE]

Last sold in these parts in similar condition were $300 and sold pretty quickly at the shows.

[Speedo66]

One of the nicest guns to shoot, that caliber is inherently accurate, and doesn't pound you. It's sectional density make it a great hunting cartridge too.

Altogether, a much nicer combo than the numbers would indicate.

[Wayne Smith]

Yup, if I had the bucks I would.

[TommyT]

$250 for an all matching 1903 dated M96 is a pretty good deal these days. I'd jump on it.

[swheeler]

That doesn't sound out of line nowady price. Flashider? never knew they had one:!:

[brotherdarrell]

That doesn't sound out of line nowady price. Flashider? never knew they had one:!:

This is the second like this I have seen. The first would almost close on a field gauge.

You guys are a bunch of enablers.

[swheeler]

addict!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[uscra112]

You guys are a bunch of enablers.

We're keeping score, and we're all going to descend on your widow like buzzards when you die. . . . .

[462]

I have a 1901 production, and think that is an excellent value.

Many muzzles were threaded to accept blank firing devices, a threaded cap protects those threads, and some enterprising individuals have made flash hiders/muzzle brakes. I bought one from an ebay auction, and with some loads, it has tightened groups noticeably.

[HiVelocity]

I wish I had mine again. When you buy it, clean it up as best you can. You'll probably be pleasantly surprised that it is actually in better shape than you think. $250 is a super deal. I've seen a couple in my area that were $350 and up.

HV

[historicfirearms]

$250 is a good deal. I've been looking for a nice one for a few years but never seem to have the money when I spot a good one at a gun show. I sold one about six years ago when I needed some cash and regret it.

[TNsailorman]

The supply of the Swede's is drying up. None being imported right now or at least I haven't heard of any. That means the price will steadily climb-- slowly. I would consider a model 96 in the condition you describe as being worth the money. Wish I hadn't sold mine a couple of years ago. I am down to one 6.5x55 right now. james

[brotherdarrell]

We're keeping score, and we're all going to descend on your widow like buzzards when you die. . . . .

As of right now, almost 46 years and counting, I am still not married and it doesn't look like I will be any time real soon. So, when I do kick the proverbial bucket descend all you want and take what you want and your welcome to it, I won't have much use for it at that point. :p

As far as keeping score I ascribe to the adage - He who dies with the most toys is still dead. I am trying to build up treasure in heaven, that is for eternity.[smilie=w:

Darrell

[1Shirt]

Last one I saw at a gun show in Lincoln 2 years ago went for $350.
1Shirt!

[copperlake]

I'm an inveterate GunBroker lurker. Here are some recent sales that are at the low end of what Swedish mausers have been going for according to my accounting:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=332762469

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=332762469

As far as your 'Jones' goes for wanting to own some history, here is one that I really regret, and my wife (she is remarkable) encouraged me to buy:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=332762469

[DCM]

The last fairly decent looking sporterized M98 I saw with a Shot Out barrel went for $200 about 3 years ago.
Prices have gone up since then so...

[brotherdarrell]

Well, here she is. She's not what I thought she was but she is what she is and as long as she shoots good that is all I care.:veryconfu

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I did a quick search and I think I know what "it" is, besides ugly. I slugged the barrel and came up with .265"/.255", and the slug passed from one end to the other slick as a whistle. Anyone like my flash hider? Don't it look TACTICOOL? At least it protects the crown so for now it will stay.

Did I get a good deal at $250 or did I get took? Ask me after I shoot it for that is all I care about.

Thanks to all you enablers!!!! Always glad to let someone other than the gov. help spend my money!!!

Darrell

ps - any chance at all the disc on the stock has anything to do with this barrel?

[Dutchman]

Stock has been sanded. The rear receiver tang is proud (above the wood line). The stock looks like it might be the original walnut. I also have a 1902 m/96 with about the same coloring: http://dutchman.rebooty.com/wood_to_metal.html

Bore disc: .255" = 6.49 so I'd say the disc is accurate to this rifle. You cannot always depend on the disc being accurate as you don't know how long ago it was checked. In some cases into the 1970s when the rifle was put into storage.

Your rear sight is the Husqvarna m/38 type with a tangent bed. The original m/96 rear sight had steps. What that generally means is the entire barrel assembly is Husqvarna m/38 and was installed new during the conversion process... or... at a later date when it needed a new barrel there were no more Carl Gustaf barrels and instead the spare parts inventory were all Husqvarna m/38 barrels with front and rear sights already installed. Either way they are excellent barrels and are a legitimate variation of m/38 conversions.

Some bolt parts appear to be replaced/recycled/re-numbered. This is SOP with Swedes and more so with later worked-on rifles.

Your sights should be zeroed @ 100 m. with the m/41 ammo (139 gr sniper ammo).


She's not what I thought she was but she is what she is

http://youtu.be/Y1ZJiBHh-Yw


Dutch
http://dutchman.rebooty.com/

[brotherdarrell]

Dutchman - I had a funny feeling you were going to say almost exactly what you said. And you are correct about the re-numbering. My eyes aren't so good anymore, but with a loupe I can now tell they have been tampered with. I really need some new eyes!!

The stock ser# is the same as the action, both pieces. The bottom metal is not.

Did I get took? Only the target will tell.

Thank you sir.

[Dutchman]

Did I get took?


Not my place to say :).

[brotherdarrell]

Not my place to say :).

That was a rhetorical question, sorta. Asking myself more than anything. If it shoots good I am happy.

[Bert2368]

Last couple of gun shows I went to, M-38 conversions on a couple of tables were priced $380.00-450.00. I didn't buy one... But at your price I would have .

[TheGrimReaper]

Man, for 250.00.....I say you did really good! Congrats.

[nitrohuck]

Man, for 250.00.....I say you did really good! Congrats.

+1 congrats on a great rifle for a great price

[Ragnarok]

I own a 1904 M96 with similiar looking light walnut. Paid $200 for it some years back..and the going rate then was $300 plus

[Multigunner]

A friend who has owned several of these said to be careful of the threaded muzzle if planing on adding a flash hider because they did not take special percautions to be sure the crown was still concentric with the thread OD. Some were threaded a hair crooked. It did not make any difference when the blank shredder was used but might make a difference with a flash hider or muzzle brake.

[brotherdarrell]

I have'nt had a chance to shoot this rifle yet due to weather and no sizing dies for my boolits. I have been tripping over $200 rifles for the last three months so it's not like I am lacking guns to shoot.

I was wondering how a flash hider would affect accuracy. I figured I would try it with and without to see if there was any difference.

I have managed to get two molds, an old Ideal SC 266469 and a newish Lyman DC 266673. Anyone want to guess which drops @ .270" with 50/50 pure/ww and which needs Lino to get to .266"? Lucky for me I fell into approx. 35#'s of Lino last week so I should be good to go.

I should have the sizer dies sometimes in May so I guess I will have to amuse myself with my "other" new toys. Instant gratification is over-rated.

Darrell

[Smokepole50]

I would say you got a fair deal. If it shoots good then you got a good deal. So many of the Swedish Mausers have been made to look better by folks over the years that the truly untouched original military rifle is becoming scarce for the amount of money you paid. A sanded stock does not affect how the rifle will shoot and it probably will shoot well, most Swede's do. As a bench mark I have a 1899 Carl Gustaf 96 that was shortened at CG to a 38 model. It is all matching and original with a un-threaded barrel and is beautiful in its original walnut stock. I would not sell it for $500.00 as I have not seen another one that could replace it.

[mac60]

I'm definitely not a purist when it comes to milsurps, so refinishing a milsurp rifle doesn't offend me at all. The stock has without a doubt been refinished, the metal may have been cold blued to boot (hard to tell), and this has probably affected value. However, in my opinion you have a very nice old rifle and it's worth every cent of what you said you paid for it. If this rifle were built today with the same quality materials and workmanship I wonder what it would sell for.

[justing]

As of right now, almost 46 years and counting, I am still not married and it doesn't look like I will be any time real soon. So, when I do kick the proverbial bucket descend all you want and take what you want and your welcome to it, I won't have much use for it at that point. :p

As far as keeping score I ascribe to the adage - He who dies with the most toys is still dead. I am trying to build up treasure in heaven, that is for eternity.[smilie=w:

Darrell
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[labradigger1]

love the swedes, as already stated they are inherently accurate

[brotherdarrell]

The first ten shots @ 50 yds w/open sights.

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The 266469 was cast from acww + 2% and drop @ .271" from an old Ideal single cavity I got from a fellow member. The 266673 was cast from lino (the only way to get .266"). Both were lubed w/ Bens Red and seated on 14 gr. of 2400 and WLR primer.

I am as happy as can be for the first trip. The targets @ 100 yds were not so good. I failed to take targets large enough for my bad eyes and the large post front sight.

Don't remember if I posted this or not - barrel slugged @ .265"/.255". The throat is long and slugged @ .270". I can't go any larger than .268" on the boolit without turning case necks,, and I don't have a turning tool so I will go with .268" for the time being.

I lucked into this last week and will be putting it to good use in this rifle. And, yes, it is full!!!

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Have a good evening all.

Darrell