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Chicken Thief
03-20-2013, 08:45 PM
Dont like it!
Most all of my antique rifles has no first stage trigger pull to take up, before a felt resistence is there.
So my S-R 1911 had this treatment.
Trigger drilled and tapped for a 3mm setscrew, and a little adjusting is all it takes.
If you do this then please work the bolt several times slamming it into the action hard. If the trigger is set to fine it will slam-fire and that is not something we want at the range!!!


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uscra112
03-21-2013, 09:35 PM
Each to his own, but gee, I've never felt any desire to improve my K31 triggers.

tomme boy
03-21-2013, 11:49 PM
These rifles have the best trigger of all old rifles made.

I love a good 2 stage trigger.

keyhole
04-11-2013, 11:05 PM
[QUOTE=tomme boy;2129115]These rifles have the best trigger of all old rifles made.QUOTE]

I have a 1911 for which a previous owner decided refinishing the stock was needed. I assumed they had the trigger worked on because it is so crisp. It is a better trigger pull than any other milsurp I have or have had (about 10). Apparently that is the way they were made. It is 2-stage but that is fine with me. very impressive...

45 2.1
04-12-2013, 04:01 PM
The K-11 is a gem.... just as it is. One of the best offhand rifles out there.

Jeff Michel
04-14-2013, 08:02 PM
I wish all of my rifles had as bad a trigger as my K11:)

mto7464
04-17-2013, 10:11 PM
my 1911 has no second stage either. Just a loooong first stage.

KCSO
04-18-2013, 09:46 AM
I first saw that type of modification done with the old Krags as 50 years ago or more folks alos didn't like the two stage triggers. The only thing I would add to that is to get a spare stock trigger and put it in if you ever sell the rifle.

Blackknight
04-18-2013, 11:57 AM
I shot a Schmidt Rubin 1911 in the Military Bolt Action Competition at our club for a couple years and had some problems not feeling the second stage of the pull and letting one go before expected, especially in the winter with cold hands. When I took the bolt apart to see what the problem was I found the return spring was splayed out on both ends, where the spring was ground to lay flat. The heat stains could be easily seen and that was where it was splayed out. I took the spring to Ace Hardware and found one the same diameter but over twice as long. Cut it to length, ground the ends flat and a good pull was restored. The other end was used to replace the bolt stop spring, and that was probably more important. The same condition exists on that spring and when it is weak the bolt can come out of the receiver and poke you in the face. My rifle was one of the private owners and had been built up by gunsmith in one of the cantons there. Has a metal insert in the stock with the owners name on it. Fine shooter.

Blackknight
04-18-2013, 12:01 PM
Forgot my manners; or short term memory loss, you do fine work to be able to drill and tap on an angle like that. My skills are more on the order of cutting a spring and grinding the ends flat.

mto7464
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
Never took my 1911 bolt apart. Anyone have a link.

alamogunr
04-19-2013, 10:00 PM
This is for the K31. I have never put the k31 and 1911 side by side, having just acquired a 1911, but they look very similar.


http://www.surplusrifle.com/swissk31/boltdisassembly/index.asp

KragJoergensen
04-20-2013, 05:06 PM
Dont like it!
Most all of my antique rifles has no first stage trigger pull to take up, before a felt resistence is there.
So my S-R 1911 had this treatment.
Trigger drilled and tapped for a 3mm setscrew, and a little adjusting is all it takes.
If you do this then please work the bolt several times slamming it into the action hard. If the trigger is set to fine it will slam-fire and that is not something we want at the range!!!


I consider this a dangerous alteration. Because you reduce sear engagement and you have no control over it. Originally the trigger was designed to have a rather large sear engagement, which is reduced to a small amount during the first stage of trigger pull. With the set screw you leave only this small amount to work with...

uscra112
04-22-2013, 07:38 PM
I consider this a dangerous alteration. Because you reduce sear engagement and you have no control over it. Originally the trigger was designed to have a rather large sear engagement, which is reduced to a small amount during the first stage of trigger pull. With the set screw you leave only this small amount to work with...

My sentiments exackly ! Set it too fine and you can trip the sear just by wiggling the back end of the bolt. Seen that more than once in my lifetime.