454-275-RF checks

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1


No hurry here, a couple guys that were getting in on the 314-RF sent checks for this one too, orders open Sept 1 and the order goes in Oct 1

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 --JH --80701 --1

8/11/2005 --RH --29407 --1

once again, no hurry, just a few folks sent them with the CB32 checks

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

4 molds paid to date

Bill

[Dutch4122]

Bill-

Just curious what the number of paid molds is up to on this one. Also wanted to say thanks for running another great group buy!

[13Echo]

Mine goes in the mail tomorrow, at least into the mailbox. Hopefully the hurricane won't blow it away.

Jerry Liles
Louisiana

[Willbird]

Dutch ,4 people sent checks in when they sent them for the the 314 order, that order is closing down so people can start sending checks for this one any time, closing time for this order is oct. 1 2005

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1


10 molds paid

order is going in Nov1 aprox.

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1




12 molds paid to date

Bill

[Bear4570]

Bill, my check should be hitting your door any day. Thanks for honchoing this

[Nrut]

Bill....I sent you a MOD today via air mail...it should get to you before Oct. 1st I would hope...sent a little extra for shipping to canada....would have ordered earlier but just found a Ruger Bisley SS Vaquaro this morning that will need feeding when it gets here......this is going to be fun...cheers mic
Ok I see now that order isn't going in til Nov. 1st so my MOD should be there in time no problem....Thanks again..

[Willbird]

OK, we ended up sending the 314-120 in just now, so this one will probably run 2 weeks late, I could have been strict on the cutoff date but I saw no point in that. This is not military school hehe

Bill

[PatMarlin]

Payment in the mail today BillBird... Thanks.

[Willbird]

Good deal, the Wife is getting worried hehe

Bill

[sideironjohn]

Sorry for the noob Q, how much $?

[David R]

$56.00 shipped to your door. Can't beat that price for a custom designed and cut 6 Cavity mold.

David

[Powderkeg]

Putting check in Mail today

[Willbird]

OK :-)

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1

9/22/2005 DH 28376 1

9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1


18 molds paid to date

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1

9/22/2005 DH 28376 1

9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1

9/28/2008 BD 89460 1
9/28/2005 RH O8829 1



20 molds paid to date

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1

9/22/2005 DH 28376 1

9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1

9/28/2008 BD 89460 1
9/28/2005 RH O8829 1

10/3/2005 FY 30736 1
10/3/2005 CB 56479 1
10/3/2005 GB 30075 1
10/3/2005 GL 91106 1


24 molds paid to date
10-14-05 is when the order will go in to Lee
Bill

[David R]

Postal Money order sent prolly 10-4-05. You should get it any day.

David

[Willbird]

OK :-)

Bill

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1


9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1

9/28/2008 BD 89460 1
9/28/2005 RH O8829 1

10/3/2005 FY 30736 1
10/3/2005 CB 56479 1
10/3/2005 GB 30075 1
10/3/2005 GL 91106 1


23 paid to date (I had trooperDan on the wrong list)

[PatMarlin]

One things for sure...

There ain't no burrito shooters around me.. :(

[Willbird]

8/5/2005 JH 80701 1

8/11/2005 RH 29407 1

8/20/2005 MA 48415 2

8/31/2005 WE 83706 2
8/31/2005 TP 32127 1

9/6/2005 WL 71201 1
9/6/2005 MJ O8560 1
9/6/2005 JS 38001 1

9/12/2005 KB 72642 1
9/12/2005 GL 83201 1

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1


9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1

9/28/2008 BD 89460 1
9/28/2005 RH O8829 1

10/3/2005 FY 30736 1
10/3/2005 CB 56479 1
10/3/2005 GB 30075 1
10/3/2005 GL 91106 1

10/8/2005 DR 14103 1
10/8/2005 MF 45011 1



25 molds paid to date

[GLL]

Bill:

Have the checks been cashed and the order placed ?

Jerry

[Willbird]

This order lagged a bit, so the checks will go in Friday, the order will go in 2 weeks after that.

Any last minute buyers get your checks to me by the 29th, from the 29th to Nov 12 if you get me a Money Order (not a check) you will be included

After that I cannot promise how many extras we can afford to order, IF there are any they will be $66.00.

Bill

[Willbird]

9/17/2005 CL 54213 1
9/17/2005 LT 74063 1


9/23/2005 JW 34653 1
9/23/2005 MB V0J3A0 1
9/23/2005 JG 96041 1

9/28/2008 BD 89460 1
9/28/2005 RH O8829 1

10/3/2005 FY 30736 1
10/3/2005 CB 56479 1
10/3/2005 GB 30075 1
10/3/2005 GL 91106 1

10/8/2005 DR 14103 1
10/8/2005 MF 45011 1

10/22/2005 BK 62801 1

26 molds paid

checks get deposited totay, when they clear, then the order goes in to Lee

[Willbird]

Order went to Lee Today

Bill

[PatMarlin]

Great BillBird.

Good job, and thankya kindly... :bigsmyl2:

[Nrut]

Thankya kindly here also Willbird...looking forward to casting and shooting this one......mic

[Willbird]

The molds came in, and as usualy they are undersize, the test castings in WW with a bit of tin run .4525 to .4530. The drawing specified WW metal and .454 to .455 dia.

They are going to have to go back to Lee, I am going to call Doug and talk to him first and see if he can grease the wheels.

I have heard that insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting the results to be differant, and that is what we keep doing with LEE....from experience with 2 other buys I ALMOST talked myself into just adding .001 to the dia on the print...if I had done that tho they would have come in .456 I can almost garuantee it

Bill

[PatMarlin]

I'm wondering if maybe it's due to orders and communication down the line, as Chargar spoke on in another thread.

Something gets dropped along the way. I think it would be wise if we studied the 2 group buys recently, the 311407 and this one, and see if the magic formula for dealing with LEE is here.

Not to say you did anything wrong Bill, and I certainly appreciate all of your efforts, but Charles Chargar may have discovered the key in paper work, and if he has- we need to standardize it for the good of the group.

I really needed .455 on this mold, and nothing shy of .454, but I'm willing to wait, or sell it if I have to.

Thanks again Billbird... ;)

[Willbird]

I am a toolmaker by trade, we send a blueprint, and Bob was even good enough to HIGHLIGHT the pertinent dimensions.

I have not heard of any of the designs coming back too BIG, unless it was a gross error in reading a print.

Bill

[Dutch4122]

Bill-

If you incur any costs please pass it on. I would like to kick in some extra if you end up paying out of your own pocket for shipping or whatever costs you may incur while dealing with Lee.

[Willbird]

I just talked to Doug, he said send them back to his attention and he would check them out, and if there is a problem he will make new ones, and that LEE will refund the shipping costs.

If anybody really wants a small one I have (30) total so I think I can send you a little one and not send it back with the others.

Bill

[David R]

I would take a small one, I only need .452. 454 is TOO big for me.

Thanks

David

14103

[Bear4570]

You can send one of the smaller to me also, All my .45s run right at .452, so I will just lube and leave them as is. Thanks for being the honcho

[C1PNR]

The .45's I planned to use this in both (Ruger and Smith) run large in the throat. And I don't need a heavy boolit for my 1911A1. Hold their feet to the fire!

However, if they come back oversize, like .458, .459, or so, that's OK too.;)

[Willbird]

OK the molds went back.........we'll see.

I told them I wanted a refund on my shipping in the form of a check, not a credit for more messed up LEE stuff :-)

Well I asked nicer than THAT hehe

Bill

[old goat]

...Willbird,

...You have a PM


...old goat

[Bear4570]

Willbird, Got my mold, thanks.

[David R]

Mine drop .452 to .453, Just what I wanted.

272 to 273 grains from WW plus tin, about 20 to 1.

Nice mold, Nice looking Boolits. Can't wait till I can load them up and see how they shoot.

Thanks Bill

David

[Willbird]

Just to make sure everything is clear, David and one other person elected to take the undersized molds "as is" all the other molds have went back to Lee to be re-made to the print.

One other groupie has said he would rather sell his mold so if somebody wants to take his place contact me and I will get an addy for you to send him a check.

Bill

[salmonriver]

I would be interested in any of the molds you have left or to add on tell me where to send funds and amount Thankyou salmonriver

[salmonriver]

I would be interested in any of the molds you have left or to add on tell me where to send funds and amount Thankyou salmonriver

[Willbird]

PM sent Salmon

[David R]

I shot the 452.5 272 custom group buy mold boolit last night out of my Smith 25-5. It shoots great! Nice groups. Sorry, no measurments, but it shot as well as my 452460 which is hard to beat. I didn't have my Merrit Optical Miricle Vision aid, so the sights and target were blurry even at 50 feet.

The first thing I did is lower the rear site to its lowest position, then fired some groups. I loaded 6 and 7.5 grains of Promo (red dot). The six grain load was nice and fun to shoot. 7.5 was plenty and felt like a BIG gun. No signs of pressure, but all I really wanted in a 45 colt. Both loads shot little groups. This is a good boolit design and well worth having.

I'm glad I didn't get a 454 version, I size em to 451 and they shoot great out of my gun.

I've said it before,

Willbird, You DA MAN!

[lar45]

I've been out of touch for awhile, any idea on when these will be comeing in?
Thanks

[Willbird]

Guys. they came in Friday, I did not cast any yet, will tomorrow, it's been workworkwork since 1-1-06, good thing cause the property tax bill just came :-)

One thing I did notice is that the mold cavities are rough in the ogive area....sort of a torn finish like the tool was dull or the coolant concentration was a bit on the light side.

Will cast boolits and post pictures and dimensions tomorrow :-)

Bill

[j4570]

I haven't checked in in a while either, wondering where my mold was. Been crazy last few months (new boss).

I'm glad they came back, please cast some and let us know how they are. I'm in no hurry as I bought this mold in anticipation of using it in 5 years or so!!!!!

I really want to get into casting (I did it with my father many years ago) again as I have a few guns I could use it for.

Jason

[Dutch4122]

Bill-

Thanks for all the extra effort on this one. Again, if you have any additional expenses that have come up please let us know. It wouldn't be right if you came out behind ($) on this one after all your hard work.

[Willbird]

I have bullets made, need to make pictures now, We will be ok on $$ as Lee refunded the shipping to return the molds to them.

Bill

[Willbird]

This is what they look like, you can see the roughness in the cavities

The weight and dia are spot on this time, they dropped from the mold nicely.

Bill

[Bodydoc447]

Willbird,

That looks like a Jim Dandy of a boolit! Thanks to you and your kind Mrs. for all the work you have put in on this one!

Mucho gracias!

Doc

[DOUBLEJK]

Mine arrived and looks mighty fine....:)
Thanks willbird fer all the effert expended!!