Help, ID a barreled action

[Rusty Goose]

Hopefully someone here can identify this old Mauser barreled action. I'm guessing it is a Argentine, but just a guess on my part.

I don't have a chamber cast or even a round to try out, but the bore is 7.10 (mic'd at the muzzle with a cheap mic). There isn't any crest or dates present, just a DO stamped in various places. Barrel and receiver ser#'s match, bolt does not. The stock that this was attached to was pretty badly butchered by bubba. It had the smooth steel butt plate with two screws, one vert, one horizontal. I could tell that it had a cleaning rod hole plugged and a thin slot cut in the left side of the butt for a sling. The bore is moslty shiny, sharp lands/grooves, there looks to be a few pits (maybe decent cleaning would make look better) Any ideas on ID or ~value?

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[462]

Model 98?

[Rusty Goose]

This is the cock on closing type, I don't believe the 98's are (I could be wrong, wife say I am most of the time).

[Bullshop]

Its a small ring Mauser 95. 96 type
Looks like maybe a Spanish/Mex carbine Is it 7x57?
Could also be a Sweed carbine 6.5 Sweed

[Kraschenbirn]

M93 or M95. From the rear sight, I'd lean toward calling it a Spanish '93 but you need to take a look at the bolt face. If the bottom is squared-off, it's a '93 if it's round, it's a '95.

Bill

[john hayslip]

I don't think I've ever seen a Swedish Mauser with nothing stamped on top of receiver, they usually have Carl something or other there. Spanish is my guess as nothing on receiver and it doesn't look as though anything has been ground off - probably in 7x57 . The Argentine would have a crest or one ground off and would be a 31 (7.65) caliber

[Rusty Goose]

I just checked the bolt face, the bottom is flat, squared off. Man, you guys know your stuff! Since the bore is 7mm I was thinking 7x57 as well. I'm trying to decide if I want to take on a project right now. Either buy a Boyds walnut stock and either mount a scope or some other interesting rear express type sight. Or just move it down the road and give my attention to other projects on hand.

[Hardcast416taylor]

The ejector is wrong shaped for an 09 Argie. There would be some marking on the side of the reciever if this was an Argie 09, DWM or Argie manf. plus top of reciever stamped. Slug the barrel and do a chamber cast to determine caliber no matter who made it.Robert

[Bullshop]

I am interested if you want to move it.

[John Boy]

Look at the proof marks on the barreled action and start from there

[Rusty Goose]

This is the under side, if that helps.
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l553/kellinrusty/diesforsale016_zps204b0190.jpg

[pietro]

The flat-bottom bolt face indicates you have a cock-on-closing, small-ring, military 1893 Spanish 7x57 Mauser.



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[462]

This is the cock on closing type, I don't believe the 98's are (I could be wrong, wife say I am most of the time).

That wasn't mentioned before I made my wrong guess, based upon the rear sight's shape.

My wife says that I'm always wrong.

[Rusty Goose]

Bullshop-
I'm still kickin 'round what I'm going to do with it. If I decide to sell it I'll let you know.

[Dutchman]

m/1893-16 Spanish Mauser 7x57

value is minimal, less than $100.

[Artful]

But it's a sweet cartridge - My first deer rifle was one, It performed very nicely - purchased from Coast-to-Coast Hardware in Oakland, Oregon -
Ol' Ben Metz bent the bolt and mounted a scope on it for me.

[copperlake]

Dutchman has it nailed, of course. You can go to this site and determine (maybe) when it was made by serial number and along with it some good history. The vent hole on the left side tells the tale.

http://masterton.us/Spanmauhome

[Ragnarok]

The M93 action..besides the flat 'bottom' of the bolt-face will have an extra ridge in the left receiver groove.

I took a similiar bubba'd Spaniard 7mm and bought an ebay stock and some small parts(barrel bands)...and made myself a nice Spanish 1916 short rifle.

For some reason or other..many of these have been scrubbed...had receiver crests removed and what-not. I think it stems from converting many of the Spanish long rifles into 1916 Short rifles...but who knows?

[Rusty Goose]

Would the action handle 300 Savage pressures?

[Multigunner]

Would the action handle 300 Savage pressures?

Should work okay in that action.
Certainly a better choice than .308 for such an old design.
The .308 is basically a souped up .300 Savage anyway.
Most .300 Savage loads used heavy bullets, so its a good candidate for Cast Boolit loads.

[Rusty Goose]

I load for my Savage m99 in .300 now. I embarrassed to say, in this company, I buy cast boolits. I'm not set up for casting myself.......yet.

[Rusty Goose]

According to Copperlake's website, it was born in 1926 as a m1916?

[junkbug]

From the rear sight, I would say a Spanish 1916 Mauser, an upgrade/rebuild of the earlier Spanish 1895. Could be either 7x57 Spanish or 7.62x51 Nato. Barrel looks like it has not been removed from the action since import, at least from the photos.

[Buckshot]

...........Just me, but why change it from the original 7x57? If the barrel is as nice as you say it is you'd be saving money and time. The action and mag box was designed to handle the 7 Mauser so there is again a time savings over monkeying around with a different cartridge. Other then the 30-'06, there isn't another cartridge I'd consider before thinking of the 7x57. No flies on a 175gr slug at 2450 fps. Get it reblued if it needed it, and put it in a nice Mannlicher stock with a Lyman 57 rear sight, and you'd be uptown! :-)

..............Buckshot

[Rusty Goose]

Buckshot, I'm leaning towards that plan now. It seems easiest (cheapest), we'll see if it groups decently and go fro there.