The GREATEST deer bullet....

[Blammer]

for those of you who shoot 35 cal.. 35 rem or 357 mag.

What is the BEST deer bullet with respect to wt and style?

[Bullshop]

For deer up to 1000 lbs the RCBS 200 FNGC in ACWW at bout 2000 fps has worked perty good.
BIC/BS

[44man]

Sounds right, you need some expansion with those little bitty boolits. [smilie=1:

[S.R.Custom]

.35 Remington?

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=767926&t=11082005

*puts flame suit on*


For deer up to 1000 lbs the RCBS 200 FNGC in ACWW at bout 2000 fps has worked perty good.
BIC/BS

1000lb deer? Now I know why you're called "Bullshop"...


On a cold November day in 1926, Carl Lenander Jr. dropped a monstrous Minnesota buck with a single shot. Field-dressed, the deer weighed 402 pounds. The state Conservation Department calculated its live weight to be 511 pounds. No heavier whitetail deer has ever been recorded.

[Bullshop]

Hay if it has antlers and hooves its a deer! Can you say mooooose?
BIC/BS

[Glen]

358315 Hp

[357maximum]

OLD POST< BUT IT IS GETTING THAT TIME OF YEAR

Rcbs 35-200
260-220 custom
358315HP
358315

In that order with my 35 rem premicro marlin 336's

I would not hesitate to shmuck a deer with any of them. I use primarily H4895 with em in both my 1950's 35R-336's....I have even went above and beyond into cor-bon like territory with this powder with no ill comings. I get my best accuracy in the 37-38 gr range however.

LARGE DOSES OF blc-2 HAVE PROVEN EXCELLENT ALSO, but I like the recoil pulse better with the H4895


I use an alloy consisting of water dropped 50/50 ww/pure, and am tickled with the on game performance in my 357max....impact velocities are very similar...I cannot see it being any different.

[Marlin Junky]

Mike,

My Pre-micro 336 measures .3595" at the muzzle and I've got to run my pot at 800F to get bullets that measure .358" all the way around their circumference from my RCBS 35-200FN. Should I tell RCBS they need to retool? I bought this mold a couple years ago. What is the date code on your 336?

Thanks,
MJ

[357maximum]

Mike,

My Pre-micro 336 measures .3595" at the muzzle and I've got to run my pot at 800F to get bullets that measure .358" all the way around their circumference from my RCBS 35-200FN. Should I tell RCBS they need to retool? I bought this mold a couple years ago. What is the date code on your 336?

Thanks,
MJ

My 35-200 is plenty fat for both my 1953 straight stocked rc and my 1951 pistol gripped SC.

If you are unhappy with an rcbs product they will fix it...just about guarantee that Don.

My rcbs 200 grainer measures .3515 just ahead of the nose band to the start of the ogive and .3608 on the drive bands with waterdropped 50/50 ww/pure if memory serves.


I "squish" (highly technical term) my 358315 to similar dimensions with a flat nose right after casting, then lube a short time later in my lyman 45...works really well for me.

[44man]

Years and years ago I had a micro .35. I was amazed at it's accuracy with factory or jacketed bullets, most times 1/2" at 100 yd's. But then I ran into the small boolit thing and never was able to shoot cast at any distance.
Now, with all of the knowledge from the shooters here, all the custom mold makers and my ability to make my own molds, I wish I still had the gun, just for fun because I only use revolvers now. I loved that little gun.
The best .22 I ever had was the Marlin 39 Mountie. A great gun gone the way of the Dodo too.
Marlin has turned into the Lee of the gun world with that stupid 1 in 38" twist in the .44 and the SHALLOW Ballard rifling.
The company listens to dropout pencil pushers instead of shooters.

[Boerrancher]

DJ,

If you are going to use the 357 mag, you might want to consider a 20 to 1 mix of pure lead to tin and shoot the 158 gr SWC pushing it with about 18 grs of 2400 if the rifle you are using is built tough enough to take it.

Best wishes from the Boer Ranch,

Joe

[runfiverun]

jesus joe ,everytime i suggest a 20-1 or 30-1 mix i get a ?????
they'll get over 1500 though.

[missionary5155]

Hey Whats wrong with 20-1 ??? I bet-cha more critters have gone to the pot with 20-1 than most other bullets out there.
Last time I popped a deer with my wheel gun I did not need more than 1 shot...

[quack1]

+1 for the 20-1 mix. I use it for all my hunting loads in 30, 35 and 45 cal. I just cast up a couple hundred 35's and 45's this morning. The only thing that might be better is a cast soft nose, I just never seem to have the time to make any up.

[selmerfan]

I have to say the greatest is the 358627 215 gr. boolit. Of course, that's because I've cast up almost a 1000 in preparation for popping targets and deer with my .357 max, but I've never killed one with it. See, my opinion is valid too, even though I have nothing to base it on except other peoples' recommendations. :)
Selmerfan

[crabo]

Why does the RCBS 200 work so well? It has a small meplat and it seems like the majority opinion is that you need a big meplat to kill. It also has a long nose with a small front drive band.

Can someone help me out here? I am trying to understand cast boolit design better.

Thanks,

[44man]

Crabo, if it is accurate, you can alter hardness to make a killer out of it. Even a roundnose works great with some expansion.
You just don't want a real hard boolit if the meplat is small or the nose is round.
I like the 20 to 1 idea for the smaller calibers.

[Blammer]

I've been thinking a RCBS 35 200 with a might bit bigger meplat would be a good un...

Notice I posted this a YEAR ago!

My how time flies!

[Old Ironsights]

for those of you who shoot 35 cal.. 35 rem or 357 mag.

What is the BEST deer bullet with respect to wt and style?

Group Buy C358-180RF. Period.

200yd accurate (on steel-knocks down rams nicely) and 100+yd Deadly from my 20" Rossi.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/1107071429a.jpg

Can't ask for better than that...

except maybe less meat loss. ;)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/IMG_0534.jpg

(New rule... don't hit the shoulder ball with this boolet...) [smilie=1:

[JesterGrin_1]

I did hope to see more on the .357 Mag. I found a load that shoots well in my Marlin sorry not cast but the Hornady 180Gr XTP/HP with 13Gr of W296 and CCI mag primer gives me right at 1350FPS. And I get groups of 3/4 at 100 yards with that load.

Is it good enough for deer? Or just a good rabbit load.

[Old Ironsights]

I think that will work, even at 100 if you can keep it on POA in the field.

It will be a bit on the "weak"side, velocity/energy wise, but then people were killing deer with .38-40s for decades...

The 180 shown above runs at 1800fps MV.

[JesterGrin_1]

I think that will work, even at 100 if you can keep it on POA in the field.

It will be a bit on the "weak"side, velocity/energy wise, but then people were killing deer with .38-40s for decades...

The 180 shown above runs at 1800fps MV.

Okay you win lol. I will keep with my .44 Mag Marlin. As I am pretty sure that with the 310Gr Lee and 18.5Gr of W296 and CCI standard primer I think right at 1400FPS should knock them over okay.

[357maximum]

I did hope to see more on the .357 Mag. I found a load that shoots well in my Marlin sorry not cast but the Hornady 180Gr XTP/HP with 13Gr of W296 and CCI mag primer gives me right at 1350FPS. And I get groups of 3/4 at 100 yards with that load.

Is it good enough for deer? Or just a good rabbit load.

As long as your antlered rabbits are less than 195 pounds and you do your part..it would be a damn fine "rabbit" load.:mrgreen: That 180 grain XTP has never once let me down with a buck as it's landing strip, although I do push it a tad faster in my max. If I wasn't a caster I could use the 180XTP or the 180grain remington bulk bullet, and never feel unworthy.

In fact at your speeds the remington 180JHP bulk bullet may even be a better choice as it is built a bit lighter.