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jimd46902
03-08-2013, 10:51 AM
Does anyone know of any extractors available for the Carl Gustav rolling block in 12.7x44R? I have looked everywhere I can think of but no one lists the straight extractors.
Thank You

4060MAY
03-08-2013, 11:01 AM
http://www.rollingblockparts.com/no-1.html
might have to email him to see what is available

4060MAY
03-08-2013, 11:08 AM
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/54330.htm

in stock, may require fitting

jimd46902
03-08-2013, 11:25 AM
Thanks, I just checked Brownell's 5 days ago and no parts...LOL. I will get this on order! I also wrote the first site also, they do not list it but they might have it.

jimd46902
03-08-2013, 11:29 AM
OOPS, I meant Numrich.

Don McDowell
03-08-2013, 01:50 PM
Those rotary extractors are tought to find. Lonestar used to keep a few on hand but since he's gone I'm not sure where to get some.
Might want to pm Crossfire Oops here or on the 24 hr campfire, he may either have some of those on hand or know where to find them.

salpal48
03-08-2013, 03:38 PM
The Swedish RB in 12.7x44R is just a variation of the USG. 50/70(12.7x45R). Alot of those parts were sort of interchangeable within Reason. a lot of RB parts can be gotten @ Gun shows . Originally Remington made only 1 Military Model then sold it to other countries. If you match up your receiver then it may fit
Sal

bubba.50
03-08-2013, 03:54 PM
I bought one from numrich a couple years ago. it was for 45/70 so I had to trim it down a bit to fit the cartridge rim. one of the few times I ever ordered somethin' from them & they actually had it in stock.

Chicken Thief
03-08-2013, 07:28 PM
If all else fails i can get my greasy mittens on one.

salpal48
03-08-2013, 07:52 PM
Your Rifle should also chamber 50/70 as well. Fred Datig Books List it as the European Equivalent with no changes

Chicken Thief
03-08-2013, 08:16 PM
Your Rifle should also chamber 50/70 as well. Fred Datig Books List it as the European Equivalent with no changes

In your dreams!!!
I have yet to see an unaltered Swede chamber a 50-70.
First of the rim is way to big on the 50-70, second the Swede is conical, thierd the Swede is shorter and thinner.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Skydning/Husqvarna/5070government_zps796bc54d.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Skydning/Husqvarna/127x44_zps1e7bcfb0.gif

salpal48
03-08-2013, 09:42 PM
If you look at my post I said Variation Of. I now refer you To Look to. Mr. Fred Datig's books Vol 1to 4 for complete information.

enfield
03-08-2013, 11:59 PM
I got one from numrich for 45-70 also, had to do some triming and fileing but it works. in hindsight I could have probly made one from scratch just as easy. between 5 rifles me and a couple friends have, 2 of them will chamber 50-70 if it is trimmed down in length. it doesn't look like they have been modified but who knows. as for the rim, the 348 is too small but it works ok on the smaller chambers that dont allow the cases to move over and fall off the extractor. oh yeah, they are more accurate than what you would expect.

salpal48
03-09-2013, 12:26 AM
From a cartridge collectors point of view. There have been 3 variations of center fire 12.7x44r cartridges . all variants so far are in Rim Diameter and Bullet shape . there may be more. I,m Not an expert in this cartridge . only what I,v read or items in my Own collection. But this thread was to help the gentleman with parts. If anyone reading this is interested in Cartridges then Join the IAA. There is a wealth of Information There
Sal

Dutchman
03-09-2013, 12:36 AM
From a cartridge collectors point of view. There have been 3 variations of center fire 12.7x44r cartridges . all variants so far are in Rim Diameter and Bullet shape . there may be more. I,m Not an expert in this cartridge . only what I,v read or items in my Own collection. But this thread was to help the gentleman with parts. If anyone reading this is interested in Cartridges then Join the IAA. There is a wealth of Information There
Sal

Nobody needs to go to another forum for accurate information. Like anywhere else there is also incorrect information here in this forum but in the end the truth will be revealed :).

Dutch

Dutchman
03-09-2013, 12:45 AM
Those rotary extractors are tought to find.

Except the Swedish m/1867 does not use a rotary extractor. It uses the sliding extractor.

And there is more than one breed of rotary extractor among rolling blocks. The Swedish m/1889 used one type of rotary extractor that is not compatible with other rolling block rotary extractors.

Photo showing Swedish m/1867-89 rotary extractor:

http://images60.fotki.com/v370/photos/2/28344/1097683/DSCF1580-vi.jpg

Dutchman
03-09-2013, 12:50 AM
Your Rifle should also chamber 50/70 as well. Fred Datig Books List it as the European Equivalent with no changes

The U.S. .50-70 Gov't is a centerfire cartridge. The Swedish military m/1867 12,17x42R is a rimfire. They are not dimensionally interchangeable. I have original samples of each in my cartridge collection.

4 and 5 are the cartridges in question with #4 being an original 12,17x42R Swedish rimfire, #5 being an original .50-70 Gov't.

http://images108.fotki.com/v191/photos/2/28344/3886627/cart2-vi.jpg

Same cartridges. The one RWS marked 12,7x44R is/was an empty case from Germany. The civilian centerfire version of the Swedish military cartridge is known as the 12,7x44R.

http://images50.fotki.com/v393/photos/2/28344/3886627/headstamp2-vi.jpg

Dutchman
03-09-2013, 12:54 AM
Just for posterity...

Barrel shanks, left is Swedish m/1867. Right is Swedish m/1889.

http://images50.fotki.com/v393/photos/4/28344/8473790/DSCF9914-vi.jpg

Hackleback
03-09-2013, 01:34 AM
Try kebco.


http://www.kebcollc.com/cart/store.php?crn=210

jimd46902
03-09-2013, 08:47 AM
Mine is astraight extractor and I have cast the chamber on mine, shorter than 50/70 andthe rim is thicker and not as wide as a50/70. Brass is on order now. The nib on the extractor is broken off of mine so when you open the block, it does not pull the extractor out.

Don McDowell
03-09-2013, 11:40 AM
Take your broken one to a local machine shop, shouldn't be to big of a deal for a machinist to make a straight extractor.

Claypipe
04-08-2013, 08:44 PM
I recently replaced a well worn extractor on an 1867 Swede Roller with a MP0321 Extractor from Dixie Gunworks.

Supposedly it was an Original for a .43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block Rifle.

Using a two sided knife sharpening stone and elbow grease, I was able to fit this to the 1867. Had to use a Swiss Needle File set to open up the slot that the retention screws goes in to keep the extractor from falling out. Time and patience = Works like a charm. This Roller uses cut down .50 Alaskan cases.

CP