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ANeat
08-06-2007, 08:47 AM
I keep looking but havent been able to track down any definite data on what this ingot is. Found it during a trip to the local metal recycler. One side of the ingot has "Avril Bearing" and on the other side it has "DREADNAUGHT Metal"
Hardness checks at 25bhn using a lee tester. Havent tried to check the melt temp yet.

I have a good list of the content of bearing metals but they are all numbered 1 thru 12. Nothing refering to "Dreadnaught" metal.

Thanks; Adam


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/aneat/Lead/ingot.jpg

Buckshot
08-06-2007, 01:46 PM
.............Probably a bearing metal itself, or something to be ADDED to some type of bearing metal. Lead alloys are used for so many things it boggles the mind. Try casting with it straight, just as it is to see how it acts. If it's okay then use it to harden up other soft scrap if you want to.

I don't know how many fire sprinklers are made each year, but just about every quarter we haul 4 truckloads (46,000 lbs each) of lead from an outfit in City of Industry, CA to Johnson Controls. It's used for fire sprinkler fuse's.

.............Buckshot

cohutt
08-07-2007, 06:36 AM
One of your neighbors?
http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/company.cfm?company=406299

"G A Avril Co Cincinnati, OH. Manufactures lead-free & leaded wire solder, custom castings, babbitt, tin & antimony alloys & flashings "

ANeat
08-07-2007, 03:54 PM
Cohutt; You are the man:drinks: Yes there pretty close to me. Called them up and had a nice long talk with one of their engineers.

"Dreadnaught" metal is one of their trade names for a bearing alloy.

88.5% Tin
8.5% Antimony
3% Copper

On another good note they also do custom alloy. I really dont need anything right now but certainly good to know for future reference.
I may have to pass that on to Yammer, that may be a good source for him in the future.

cohutt
08-07-2007, 06:08 PM
*** did we do before the internet and google?

Makes everyone look smart at some point, even me.



I figure the closest smelter to me is in Birmingham AL- not a bad drive for the right haul, under 2 hrs from here..

http://www.maycoindustries.com/alloys.htm

interesting lead weight calculator for oddball shapes too-
http://www.maycoindustries.com/Calculators/geometry_xls.htm

ANeat
08-07-2007, 06:44 PM
Heck I tried Google but kept coming up with a bunch of hits from some punk arsed girl singer:confused: [smilie=1:

The guy at GA Avril told me they dont sell to individuals so I would need a business license or go thru someone with one. Probably a ton would be the minimum. Said they have to get a certain ammount in their pots before they stir correctly.

We also talked about lead pricing, he figures it will come down. Right now for a custom blend/bullet alloy he guessed about $2.00 a pound at todays prices.

standles
09-04-2007, 04:23 PM
*** did we do before the internet and google?

I figure the closest smelter to me is in Birmingham AL- not a bad drive for the right haul, under 2 hrs from here..

http://www.maycoindustries.com/alloys.htm



Been lurking for a bit and thought I would add to this thread.

Just got off the phone with these folks and here is the story.

The boolit alloys are not available in AL. They are all in Granite City IL.

Prices I got were...

20-1 Alloy (95% lead 5% tin) 2.02/# FOB Granite City IL DOCK
93% lead 6%antimony 2%tin 1.80/# FOB Granite City IL DOCK

Shipping for 2000# to Destin Florida.. $540.00

Custom batches in 2000# min batch sizes.


Later, Steven

Nueces
09-04-2007, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the poop, Steven, and welcome aboard.

Mark

standles
09-06-2007, 01:56 PM
Another Data Point for ya'll


Sullivan metals in MS.

20-1 Alloy 2.34 / #
hardcast (92/6/2) 1.84/#
Linotype 2.46/#

FOB thier dock

Sheez.... Looks like I am going to be casting Pure WW for a bit.


Steven